Nvidia App goes beta

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Summary

Nvidia App is basically a merge of GeForce Experience and a modernised Nvidia Control Panel all in one package.

 

Quotes

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Whether you're a gaming enthusiast or a content creator, the NVIDIA app simplifies the process of keeping your PC updated with the latest NVIDIA drivers, and enables quick discovery and installation of NVIDIA applications like GeForce NOW, NVIDIA Broadcast and NVIDIA Omniverse.

 

Featuring a unified GPU control center, NVIDIA app allows fine-tuning of game and driver settings from a single place, while introducing a redesigned in-game overlay for convenient access to powerful gameplay recording tools, performance monitoring overlays, and game enhancing filters, including innovative new AI-powered filters for GeForce RTX users.

 

My thoughts

Finally, after all these years, and maybe pressure from Nvidia users due to the fact that AMD has modernised their app, Nvidia decided to pull the trigger and modernised their Nvidia Control Panel.
 

This new app is now 2-in-1 package, rather than having 2 different apps.

 

 

Since this is in beta, there are some missing features. The entire Display section found in the Control Panel is missing.

 

Plus, this basically upgrades the GeForce Experience app.

 

Sources

https://www.nvidia.com/en-my/geforce/news/nvidia-app-beta-download/

https://www.nvidia.com/en-my/software/nvidia-app/

[Fasterthannothing]

Looking good glad to not have to dig around the control panel 

[RejZoR]

We asked for better NVIDIA Control Panel, not more NVIDIA Experience bulls**t shoehorned into it. Sigh. I don't want stupid NVIDIA Experience and its stupid "library" and its stupid "optimizations".

 

We've gone from "This archaic control panel looks like it escaped from 2004" to "Just let me use the old archaic control panel that escaped from 2004)...

 

And I bet the interface will have all the stupid problems old one has, like descriptions being wonky, applying things being wonky, settings list jumping to the top on every selection etc... Because that just seems to be the NVIDIA way. They are the Apple of graphic cards...

[DreamCat04]

4 minutes ago, Fasterthannothing said:

Looking good glad to not have to dig around the control panel 

Also glad that we won't have to wait a few seconds for the control panel to launch without any indication of progress or  "dummy window" of sorts, I hope you get what I mean

[goodtofufriday]

I still don't understand how it's 2024 and nvidia of all people still have a control panel from 2002

[BabaGanuche]

46 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

I still don't understand how it's 2024 and nvidia of all people still have a control panel from 2002

Because it just works. What is wrong with it other than it looks old? And how would a new one fix that?

 

And the beta one is everything I hate about modern UI design.

[Agall]

44 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

I still don't understand how it's 2024 and nvidia of all people still have a control panel from 2002

Boooooo

 

 

Nvidia Control Panel works, all it needs to do.

[porina]

Just installed the App which replaces GFE for the moment. NVCP can still be accessed.

 

Had a quick look around. I guess it does what it intended to do in the merging of GFE and NVCP, at least at a surface level. I haven't gone through every little detail. It looks like they haven't fallen for the same trap AMD did in that the density of displayed content is ok. 

 

NVCP would be ok if it didn't have a weird delay to every action in it. GFE I only use for overlay/capture related, not the game optimisation. So App does seem like a successor to both.

[Techstorm970]

35 minutes ago, BabaGanuche said:

Because it just works. What is wrong with it other than it looks old? And how would a new one fix that?

 

And the beta one is everything I hate about modern UI design.

 

21 minutes ago, Agall said:

Boooooo

 

 

Nvidia Control Panel works, all it needs to do.

The convenience of having everything in the same place is what I'm excited about.

 

Otherwise, hard agree.  Utility apps can look like Windows 95 for all I care as long as it actually works as advertised.

[starsmine]

I kinda liked GFE pre-forced log in, so this is really cool. I have not used GFE in a decade.

[thevictor390]

2 hours ago, BabaGanuche said:

Because it just works. What is wrong with it other than it looks old? And how would a new one fix that?

 

And the beta one is everything I hate about modern UI design.

Not quite everything. At least they labelled the buttons with words instead of making you guess what the pictures mean.

[Lurick]

I'm fine with this replacing Geforce Failure Experience.

In the time between downloading a driver and then going back 5 minutes later to install it, I was logged out and couldn't install it without signing in, wtf.

[Brooksie359]

3 hours ago, Techstorm970 said:

 

The convenience of having everything in the same place is what I'm excited about.

 

Otherwise, hard agree.  Utility apps can look like Windows 95 for all I care as long as it actually works as advertised.

What do you mean? For me the old control panel did everything I needed it to. What wasn't present that you want on it other than added garbage that adds unneeded complexity for those who don't want it? For me the biggest thing I would want is a control panel that is as light weight as possible while also being as functional as possible. The old control panel did that fairly well. 

[goodtofufriday]

13 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

What do you mean? For me the old control panel did everything I needed it to. What wasn't present that you want on it other than added garbage that adds unneeded complexity for those who don't want it? For me the biggest thing I would want is a control panel that is as light weight as possible while also being as functional as possible. The old control panel did that fairly well. 

I'm an IT admin and I'm fine with that, and even perer with, with all the utiliies i use for work.

but when i'm gaming and using my gaming PC that i spent thousands building and crafting, I'd like to see a little more pizaz in the uilities for the hardware im using. 

Its just a feeling/opnion and nothing more than that. 

[Brooksie359]

31 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

I'm an IT admin and I'm fine with that, and even perer with, with all the utiliies i use for work.

but when i'm gaming and using my gaming PC that i spent thousands building and crafting, I'd like to see a little more pizaz in the uilities for the hardware im using. 

Its just a feeling/opnion and nothing more than that. 

I guess I don't care that much so long as it's stable and works well. While adding pizazz doesn't always make things less stable or harder to run I do tend to see that usually being the case which is why I don't really want any added complexity. I mean I mostly use the nvidia control panel when troubleshooting or on initial setup of stuff. Maybe I will fiddle with it if I want to change resolution/refreshrate or gsync settings but other than that I don't tend to use it all that often. During those times I am not really looking for a cool looking program but one that let me do what I need to as easily as possible without limiting the capabilities of the program. 

[Senzelian]

AMD's software looks so much better than whatever this crap is. And it doesn't require a stupid login.

[Salted Spinach]

Waiting for inclusion of all NVCP features and someone to make a custom version with GFE components gutted out

[RejZoR]

14 hours ago, Agall said:

Boooooo

 

 

Nvidia Control Panel works, all it needs to do.

Except it doesn't. It's full of dumb glitches and it has been this way for basically 20 years. I had a  Menu takes forever to open, graphic settings description is overlapped by settings so you need to scroll it just right to see setting description, the menu resets to the top every time you select/change anything, when you apply it flashes several times and takes like 3 seconds to apply. On a modern system with cores, RAM and SSD speeds to throw around. Not to mention it's clumsy to use.

 

I'd have less of an issue if NVIDIA just made it more responsive and glitch free even if it looked the same. But I had that opinion some 15 years ago. Been demanding total redesign for like a decade.

[emothxughts]

Don't mind NVCP's Windows XP looking interface, but it is laggy as hell, this may be a welcome change.

 

Now if only they also add a feature to adjust GPU clocks and volts, just like AMD's Adrenalin software.

[WereCat]

17 hours ago, BabaGanuche said:

 What is wrong with it other than it looks old?

It's extremely slow and cumbersome to use. Applying stuff takes a while and switching between stuff takes a while, it's just annoying to use if you change settings frequently.

[porina]

13 hours ago, Senzelian said:

AMD's software looks so much better than whatever this crap is. And it doesn't require a stupid login.

That's the problem I had with AMD's interface. It was made to look good, not good to use. It is far too low density for the amount of stuff.

 

Believe login is no longer needed for App.

 

2 hours ago, WereCat said:

It's extremely slow and cumbersome to use. Applying stuff takes a while and switching between stuff takes a while, it's just annoying to use if you change settings frequently.

I am curious what people tinker with in settings. I only ever poke around rarely, if I'm testing things like DSR or VSR. What's the use case for visiting "regularly"?

 

 

Anyway, I'm seeing the limitations in the beta of App already. The settings exposed through it are far from complete. I was testing VSR yesterday and I don't see it exposed there. Still, early days and I hope it will become feature complete by the time it leaves beta.

[WereCat]

16 minutes ago, porina said:

Anyway, I'm seeing the limitations in the beta of App already. The settings exposed through it are far from complete. I was testing VSR yesterday and I don't see it exposed there. Still, early days and I hope it will become feature complete by the time it leaves beta.

I was using it often mostly just to change the FPS cap. 

And when I was benchmarking I had to tweak more stuff, usually turn some stuff OFF for benching then ON after I finished. It was always annoying. 

Also I still can't fugure out why NVIDIA keeps defaulting to Limited sRGB on monitors instead of Full so sometimes after I unplugged monitor and plugged it back in later I had to adjust that as well. 

Also it's not just that it was slow but also buggy. Sometimes it just refreshed while I was changing settings and reverted my changes. 

Or just froze for couple seconds. 

 

AMD interface is much faster than that but I completely agree with you that it's also annoying and "slow". It's faster than NVCP but not as fast as people make it out to be and I can't for the life of me remember where anything is because of the almost infinite amount of submenus. 

[porina]

28 minutes ago, WereCat said:

And when I was benchmarking I had to tweak more stuff, usually turn some stuff OFF for benching then ON after I finished. It was always annoying. 

I get that, but I view benching as a special case. You only really need to do that if benching competitively and often that is best done on a dedicated system.

 

28 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Also I still can't fugure out why NVIDIA keeps defaulting to Limited sRGB on monitors instead of Full so sometimes after I unplugged monitor and plugged it back in later I had to adjust that as well. 

Might be a hang over from when monitors sucked more? Is it actually gamut? I might be thinking of the HDMI dynamic range setting.

 

28 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Also it's not just that it was slow but also buggy. Sometimes it just refreshed while I was changing settings and reverted my changes. 

Or just froze for couple seconds. 

Yup, definitely not welcome.

 

28 minutes ago, WereCat said:

AMD interface is much faster than that but I completely agree with you that it's also annoying and "slow". It's faster than NVCP but not as fast as people make it out to be and I can't for the life of me remember where anything is because of the almost infinite amount of submenus. 

It's been a while since I used it. I do recall having to turn off all the pointless animation effects so it is more responsive. I'd guess finding the settings faster would come over time the more you use it. I don't recall splitting settings over too many submenus to be a major problem. My personal gripe remains that the settings they do show are spaced unnecessarily apart (maybe to cater for touch?) so you only see a handful on a screen when ideally you could see a whole bunch more at once.

[WereCat]

36 minutes ago, porina said:

It's been a while since I used it. I do recall having to turn off all the pointless animation effects so it is more responsive. I'd guess finding the settings faster would come over time the more you use it. I don't recall splitting settings over too many submenus to be a major problem. My personal gripe remains that the settings they do show are spaced unnecessarily apart (maybe to cater for touch?) so you only see a handful on a screen when ideally you could see a whole bunch more at once.

I feel like it's responsive enough and animations don't bother me. It's just that switching between tabs takes about half a second at least but as long as you're changing stuff in a given tab it's fine. 

 

Initial setup has me to go trough multiple tabs to configure all my stuff but after I just mainly use the Performance tab. 

The issue for me is that I prefer to DDU before driver install so it requires me to setup stuff more often than I would otherwise do. 

But I also don't tend to update to every driver, only if I run into an issue or if new driver introduces some new features I like to try like AFMF recently. 

 

Same thing goes to NVCP when I had NVIDIA card. But I didn't do DDU before every driver update like I do with AMD. 

[Lurick]

15 hours ago, Senzelian said:

AMD's software looks so much better than whatever this crap is. And it doesn't require a stupid login.

Let me just use this with my Nvidia GPU.....

 

This new version doesn't require a login, only the old GeFail Experience did