Intel CPUs vs AMD CPUs

[AlfaPersei]

I see a lot of people talking about how good AMD CPUs and giving hate to Intel's. But when I check websites like cpubenchmark Intel CPUs score much higher. So what gives? Is AMD better for gaming while Intel is a better all-rounder? Are the benchmarks biased or inaccurate? 

[Fasauceome]

8 minutes ago, AlfaPersei said:

Are the benchmarks biased or inaccurate? 

Aggregate benchmark sites like userbenchmark tend to be unreliable. As for what's "generally better," you have to be more specific about the generations you're comparing

[podkall]

33 minutes ago, AlfaPersei said:

I see a lot of people talking about how good AMD CPUs and giving hate to Intel's. But when I check websites like cpubenchmark Intel CPUs score much higher. So what gives? Is AMD better for gaming while Intel is a better all-rounder? Are the benchmarks biased or inaccurate? 

if I'm being biased AMD is better

 

if I'm on a budget AMD is better

 

if I have a specific 10-30% use case, Intel is better

 

but all in all AMD is just better and cheaper, unless your specific use case requires many cores or something Intel specific

[Beerzerker]

43 minutes ago, AlfaPersei said:

I see a lot of people talking about how good AMD CPUs and giving hate to Intel's. But when I check websites like cpubenchmark Intel CPUs score much higher. So what gives? Is AMD better for gaming while Intel is a better all-rounder? Are the benchmarks biased or inaccurate? 

If talking about Userbenchmark, that site is a J.O.K.E. to do a comparison between the two with.

HEAVILY biased towards Intel with weird results sometimes outside of reality itself.

Used to be AMD was the outright budget king, and they really still are but they have gone up in price since Ryzen came out vs their equivalent Intel chip models.
I'll also say it straight - Between the two I haven't seen a single thing to make me want to go with either make exclusively.

Get what you want - Build it - Be happy.

[leclod]

You talk about performance now but in two years AM5 will still have new cpus, that's a huge advantage.

Heat generation is another huge strength of AMD

[AlfaPersei]

On 2/10/2024 at 12:44 PM, Fasauceome said:

Aggregate benchmark sites like userbenchmark tend to be unreliable. As for what's "generally better," you have to be more specific about the generations you're comparing

I mean that Pass Mark gives 19 14900K a bigger score than Ryzen 7 7800X3D but people took that ryzen chip to be the winner

[YoungBlade]

23 minutes ago, AlfaPersei said:

I mean that Pass Mark gives 19 14900K a bigger score than Ryzen 7 7800X3D but people took that ryzen chip to be the winner

If your usecase is running PassMark, then yes, the i9 14900K is better. However, I doubt your usecase is running PassMark. You likely want to play some actual games.

 

In which case, the R7 7800X3D is generally about 5-10% percent faster. Potentially, it's within the margin for error if you looked at a bigger mix of games, and there are some games where the 14900K wins. However, the 14900K also costs a lot more money and needs a beefier motherboard and cooler, further adding to the cost. Whereas the 7800X3D can give you the same performance for much less money.

 

So, because you get the same or better performance for way less money, most advocate for the Ryzen 7 7800X3D if your primary usecase is gaming. It has nothing to do with giving hate to Intel, it's just simple price/performance.

[Dedayog]

On 2/10/2024 at 1:34 PM, AlfaPersei said:

I see a lot of people talking about how good AMD CPUs and giving hate to Intel's. But when I check websites like cpubenchmark Intel CPUs score much higher. So what gives? Is AMD better for gaming while Intel is a better all-rounder? Are the benchmarks biased or inaccurate? 

Please do some research, to back up what you're "hearing".

 

There are innumerable reviews on both Intel and AMD comparing the two.  With explanations, rather than just numbers.

[oldiebutgoodie]

I want to upgrade my old Intel PC and I've been a long-time Intel user (used to work for Team Blue in the past) and now considering switching to AMD. I am mostly gaming and using it for light video and photo editing as well as usual office and streaming. As far as I can see the fight is fairly equal between the two, but I see some good points given AMD for better power consumption and price.

If I switch to Team Red, will I have any compatibility issues? Any other points to consider?

[Dedayog]

6 hours ago, oldiebutgoodie said:

I want to upgrade my old Intel PC and I've been a long-time Intel user (used to work for Team Blue in the past) and now considering switching to AMD. I am mostly gaming and using it for light video and photo editing as well as usual office and streaming. As far as I can see the fight is fairly equal between the two, but I see some good points given AMD for better power consumption and price.

If I switch to Team Red, will I have any compatibility issues? Any other points to consider?

No compatibility issues unless there is some obscure tech you need to use?

 

No points to consider before purchase.  An AM5 setup will work without issue just like an Intel one.  Just undervolt via PBO and CO, all is well.

 

In my sig, you'll see I use both CPU makers.  Id use either again but prefer AMD for how they perform, stay cool, and save me money.

 

Shout out to Microcenter too

[Ebony Falcon]

7800x3d for pure gaming 

14600k and up for gaming and workstation type stuff 

pure workstation 7950x or 14900k trade blows 

 

[Wolverine2349]

Pure gaming: AMD

 

Gaming and productivity: Intel

 

Productivity primarily with gaming secondary: AMD

 

Pure productivity: Tossup - Though I will go for AMD just for better CPU reliability and lower heat output maxed/near maxed out, but I will go Intel for Raptor Cove (6%) and even Golden cove (2%) having slight better clock normalized IPC in most workloads

 

Chipset/Platform stability and reliability: Intel though gap narrowed to almost nothing with AM5 firmware updates in the 1 1/12 years its been out

 

Chipset and platform longevity: AMD as another gen will go into current AM5 mobos where as Intel Raptor Lake refresh appears to be last stop (Bartlett Lake maybe if that is even a thing that is worthwhile or a thing at all)

 

Platform feature and PCIe lanes - AMD for sure: You get 8 PCIe Gen 5 lanes direct to CPU plus the 16 dedicated GPU lanes. Intel only has 16 dedicated GPU lanes and only 4 extra Gen 4 PCIe lanes. Not that Gen 4 vs 5 important but the extra 4 direct to CPU are very important for more than 1 NVME direct to CPU rather than going through chipset IMHO.

 

CPU stability and reliability and longevity: AMD by far (Intel 13th and 14th Gen high end CPUs seem to degrade and possible random stability issues even at stock with intel 253W 300A limits enforced and vcore on auto and also random IMC issues with DDR5 XMP 6000 and higher (even only 2 DIMMs) on most boards from my. experience). AMD Zen 4 no reports of degradation.

 

Power consumption and thermals: AMD by far: Much lower power usage and easier to cool and less heat dumped into the PC case and lower electivity costs or could be negligible depending on where you live. But much less heat makes for easier to make quiet system in small case which matters to many