We are looking to build a NAS To Backup Our Channel Assets!!!!!

[Anthro_Humans_Memories.]

Budget (including currency): 300.00-400.00 USD

Country: United States

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Cinematography'8K Video Editing And Mass Storage for life

Other details (existing parts lists,I know we'll need NAS Drives And TrueNAS Free, whether any peripherals are needed:A Config Display., what you're upgrading from:No Backup!!!!, when you're going to buy:In A Few Months., what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at 8K And 16K, etc): We Know We Need A NAS For A Backup Server We Have Just Never Done This Before!!!! So Could You Please Give Us A Minimum Parts List For Our Use Case So We Can Get This Thing Assembled The Software Is More Our Cup Of Tea So Please Give Us A Parts List For Our Use Case So We Can Buy It As Always Have A Great Day Thanks Again!!!!!!!!!

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[Biohazard777]

53 minutes ago, Anthro_Humans_Memories. said:

Budget (including currency):  300.00-400.00 USD

Country: United States

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:
Cinematography'8K Video Editing And Mass Storage for life

Other details (existing parts lists):
I know we'll need NAS Drives And TrueNAS Free

Whether any peripherals are needed:
A Config Display

What you're upgrading from:
No Backup!!!!

When you're going to buy:
In A Few Months.

What resolution and refresh rate you want to play at:
8K And 16K, etc
We know we need a NAS for a backup server.
We have just never done this before!!!!
So could you please give us a minimum parts list for our use case so we can get this thing assembled.
The software is more our cup of tea, so please give us a parts list for our use case, so we can buy it.

As Always Have A Great Day Thanks Again!!!!!!!!!

There, I fixed it for you, so that other forum members can read it... 
Good luck. 

[FloRolf]

Are the hard drives included in your budget? Because if they are you won't be doing a lot of 8k/16k projects

Basically the question is: how much storage do you need? 

 

I didn't quite understand though, this is just supposed to be the backup of your primary source which is ...? 

[Anthro_Humans_Memories.]

On 10/30/2023 at 5:44 PM, FloRolf said:

Are the hard drives included in your budget? Because if they are you won't be doing a lot of 8k/16k projects

Basically the question is: how much storage do you need? 

 

I didn't quite understand though, this is just supposed to be the backup of your primary source which is ...? 

The drives are not in that budget making the final payment closer to $800.00 USD I plan on starting with 4 4TB drives in raid 1 and I plan on storing a backup of the files on our channel PC build so if we ever need a certain asset we can pull it off the nas and onto local storage like a PC HDD we hope this corrects our info a bit for you!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

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[Anthro_Humans_Memories.]

We have the parts for our Home NAS picked out already but can you please let us know if they are compatible with each other so we can build it...

 

Parts list: Ryzen 3 3200g,A320M motherboard, stock AM4 cooler,16 GB DDR4 RAM, PCI-E X1 SATA 3 expansion card, PCI-E X4 10Gb network card, PC case with 8 hard drive bays,4* SATA 3 Nas HDD,256 GB SATA 3 SSD boot device, random PSU.

 

Please don't judge the hardware choices I just need to get this thing working by Q1 2024!!!

 

We have a Windows 11 PC that has assets that we need to backup and we plan on using True Nas.

 

Our furry channel dabbles into a reality where furries live together with humans in the USA so we use a lot of 8K cinematography in our channel videos also this is a Starter NAS so we planned on deleting older or outdated footage so we don't have to upgrade the storage pool

 

Please let us know if this works for starting with a NAS thanks have a great day!!!!!!!

 

 

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[Zando_]

Do you already have the 3200G?

 

Assuming yes, then something like this is a better base PC:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8dPTmD

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($0.00)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($49.97 @ Amazon)
Case: Antec P101 Silent ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX750M (2021) 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $324.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-06 21:54 EST-0500

 

For drives, those WD reds should be fine. For the PCIe cards though, check ebay for used enterprise ones, they should work more reliably. Do you have a 10G switch for your LAN and a 10G NIC on the editing machine? If not then the 10G card is useless, if you do then look for old Intel 10G cards, they will work the best. For the SATA card, look for an old LSI HBA card that is flashable to IT-Mode (you can look up what models can be flashed and how to do so, I used an LSI 9223-8i and flashed it to IT-Mode myself). On both the NIC and HBA, be sure to check with the seller that the photos are of the specific item you're buying, and check the serial #s for authenticity (some NICs have a specific certificate of authenticity sticker you can check also) as there are many fake clones of the legit cards.

[LIGISTX]

3 hours ago, Zando_ said:

Do you already have the 3200G?

 

Assuming yes, then something like this is a better base PC:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8dPTmD

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($0.00)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($49.97 @ Amazon)
Case: Antec P101 Silent ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX750M (2021) 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $324.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-06 21:54 EST-0500

 

For drives, those WD reds should be fine. For the PCIe cards though, check ebay for used enterprise ones, they should work more reliably. Do you have a 10G switch for your LAN and a 10G NIC on the editing machine? If not then the 10G card is useless, if you do then look for old Intel 10G cards, they will work the best. For the SATA card, look for an old LSI HBA card that is flashable to IT-Mode (you can look up what models can be flashed and how to do so, I used an LSI 9223-8i and flashed it to IT-Mode myself). On both the NIC and HBA, be sure to check with the seller that the photos are of the specific item you're buying, and check the serial #s for authenticity (some NICs have a specific certificate of authenticity sticker you can check also) as there are many fake clones of the legit cards.

This... plus don't use a shit PSU.

 

A PSU is one of the most important parts of a NAS, because its more or less the only single part that can entirely destroy all of your data, and it can and will do it with 0 warning. Bad power = fried parts = total loss of data... don't cheap out on a PSU for a NAS, its literally the most important part of the system. 

 

And definitely don't use a random SATA card, get a ebay HBA: https://www.ebay.com/itm/133485835643?hash=item1f1460357b:g:B4cAAOSw1wxhEjYu&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4Ovm0YVYjN3eFuP8%2Blbq6VRwmPlQHpjW1r4kKLPrMMhQ%2BZbXzL9XVc9rFd869CX6DEUxGRhTl5o7btT0%2F210Oq8V3Kgm1EmWWVR2WfS9FzVyn1rx3nIWYfrLALfNoF2iRN0GTFnj9fTVhVpq1W%2F7n1vKdSu%2FFhDVvxib%2FRinOwqehnHklWWGTTQE9Mbm49JUBHfGf7p66iZGaLKXKoSFgKsox8Z6sb96pKVV4qglIs3i7IKUzulxepqMxvcr2nZder3pejyWrL3wT9%2F9BMN%2B0xH9DIQpxZwFE7xF3Su9raeO|tkp%3ABFBMhvX1h_Vi

 

That card comes with 2 SAS to SATA cables in it, so you can plug 8 SATA drives into it. Plug harddrives into that, plug boot SSD direclty into mobo. 

 

Also, just make sure you understand the limits of ZFS... you can't add storage cheaply. Every vdev you add needs its own redundency, so it costs less to buy more drives up front since your overall % of drives dedicated to redundency is lower. If you think you will need more storage down the line, buy it now, or plan accordingly. 

[digitalscream]

Bit of a left-field suggestion, but...I'd seriously consider getting some used datacentre SSDs instead of those spinning-rust drives - something like the Intel DC S3610. They're usually pretty cheap (£45 in the UK for 1.6TB, probably $40-50 in the US), and if you can find a seller who's got 10+ of them on eBay you'll mostly find that they're server pulls with only about 10% used out of 10PBW+ capacity. They'll be a lot more power-efficient, run quieter and be more reliable in a 24/7 context. I've got 8 of them running in my data box, and it's a massive improvement in heat and power management.

 

Also, as has been said, "random PSU" is probably the worst thing you can do here. This isn't a desktop PC, it's a server - the consequences of not being able to get at your data archive when you actually need it are significantly worse than not being able to fire up your desktop. Don't cheap out.

[mariushm]

The SMR hard drives are slower at writing, but OK for reading. If you want high write speeds, or you'll rewrite content often, you may want to go with CMR drives, like WD Red Plus.

Do the math on what's the best price vs capacity on hard drives, I don't think 3 TB is the sweetspot.

 

The motherboard may not have 2.5 gbps ethernet chip, I didn't check. Sure, you can add one later in a pci-e x1 slot if it but it may be cheaper to just go with a B550 board that already has 2.5g ethernet.

With a 3200g a B450 motherboard would be just as good, but most won't have 2.5g ethernet

 

See for example  https://www.amazon.com/MSI-PRO-MAX-II-Motherboard/dp/B0CLVGM4TB/ - it has 2.5g ethernet and it's 70$

 

Gigabyte B450M DS3H WiFi would also be a good deal, you also get wifi, you get 4 ram slots, you get 2 pci-e x16 slots, 2.5g ethernet for 80$ : https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-B450M-DS3H-WiFi-Motherboard/dp/B08B7ZX8Q2/

 

 

Don't waste your money on platinum efficiency. Gold is enough, even bronze will be fine in your case. Idling or just running a few hard drives, your system will consume less than 80-100w ... at that power consumption levels, difference between gold and platinum would be a few watts extra ... basically less than 1$ a month in electricity or something like that.

 

ps ,  you may want to hit ebay and look in the CPU+Motherboard combo section, sometimes you can get  cpu + mobo + ram at good deals there.

 

For example :  https://www.ebay.com/itm/165423618685 -  6600K  + Z170A motherboard for $99  - if you sell your 3200g for $30-40 you got mobo + cpu for ~50$

 

[PDifolco]

Pretty weird build choice, the most expensive thing being a $165EUR PSU for a build that would work with a pair of AA batteries

A Bronze 500W at $50 would have been good..

Same for the case, $95 for a huge 15 years old design case, you can get this for $20 on EBay

CPU is weak, board is old crap

The first SSD is laughably small (and why a SATA ??), dunno what you want to put on the NAS HDD and SSD ?

Not sure of the total budget but sure you could have gotten better for the price

 

 

[Levent]

First of all please, join the 20th century.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/use-snipping-tool-to-capture-screenshots-00246869-1843-655f-f220-97299b865f6b

 

Other than weird base component choices, your storage choices are weird as hell too. Why do you need a small ssd and a large ssd? Why get that terrible motherboard and a case with that many 3.5" bays?  (edit just saw your HBA)

Edited November 12, 2023 by Levent

[Anthro_Humans_Memories.]

Our Team Of Furries Already has
a Ryzen 3 3200g We Plan On Installing TrueNAS Core With 2*10TB Nas HDD For A Storage Pool we just want to know if these parts will fit together Thanks Have A Great Day,We Can't Wait To Edit Ultra Realist 8K Video In AV1 For Our Real World Fanbase!!!!........

 

 

 

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[Electronics Wizardy]

You don't need the HBA card, just use the on board sata ports.

 

Should work fine otherwise.

[LogicalDrm]

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