5700X and frequency reporting

[Murasaki]

Please excuse my outdated bean brain as I've been on a 6th gen i7 up till a few days ago.

 

So I finally got to to getting my new parts into usage (MPG B550 + R7 5700X + Arctic R34 + 2x16GB Kingston Fury) and it all runs well. One strange thing im noticing is programs reporting the current CPU frequency wrong (?)

LIke as im typing right now heres what programs are reading:

CPU-Z - 3599 ~ 4523Mhz

HWinfo - 3600 ~ 3733Mhz

Task Manager - 3900 ~ 4150Mhz

Ryzen Master - "I sleep"

 

I've been digging around and it seems due to the cpu architecture itself its all just polling and reporting in a different way so most software report things erroneously?

I wan't to trust Ryzen Master since its from AMD itself and Task Manager is well.. Task Manager. Everything seems to be in order right?

[Vishera]

I have a 5700X myself and don't have this issue,

It could be a bug with your BIOS.

[Murasaki]

1 minute ago, Vishera said:

I have a 5700X myself and don't have this issue,

It could be a bug with your BIOS.

I updated it to the latest version due it coming with an old one that doesn't even support the cpu yet.

If its a bug would it be a problem or something to just shrug off?

[Vishera]

1 minute ago, Murasaki said:

If its a bug would it be a problem or something to just shrug off?

It depends on if you get the performance of an average 5700X or not.

Try benching with Cinebench R23 single core and multi core and post the score here.

[Murasaki]

20 minutes ago, Vishera said:

It depends on if you get the performance of an average 5700X or not.

Try benching with Cinebench R23 single core and multi core and post the score here.

Single core: 1515

Multi core: 13114

MP Ratio: 8.65x

 

Atleast thats what i got from the tooltip from where my score is "processing" even though i ran like 3-4 passes..

[GuiltySpark_]

This all seems pretty typical for Ryzen, actually. This question comes up a lot. Where you're going to see *true* clockspeed is in Ryzen Master and "Effective Clocks" in HWiNFO. 

[Murasaki]

2 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

This all seems pretty typical for Ryzen, actually. This question comes up a lot. Where you're going to see *true* clockspeed is in Ryzen Master and "Effective Clocks" in HWiNFO. 

Oh I didn't notice the effective clocks reading, those look more in line with what I'd expect.

[GuiltySpark_]

6 minutes ago, Murasaki said:

Oh I didn't notice the effective clocks reading, those look more in line with what I'd expect.

Yeah not all software is going to be able to read that. In those cases, they'll be closer to reality under heavy load but idle/low load situations is where they kind of fall apart. 

 

More info here. https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/wrong-clock-speeds-utilization-on-my-ryzen-9-7950x.8650/

[Murasaki]

19 hours ago, Murasaki said:

Single core: 1515

Multi core: 13114

MP Ratio: 8.65x

 

Atleast thats what i got from the tooltip from where my score is "processing" even though i ran like 3-4 passes..

Also I just found out PBO at Auto means basically off so I just enabled it allowing all cores to boost to a bit over 4.5Ghz

 

Single core: 1507 (less okay lmao)

Multi core: 14903

MP Ratio: 9.89x

[Mark Kaine]

20 hours ago, Murasaki said:

Please excuse my outdated bean brain as I've been on a 6th gen i7 up till a few days ago.

 

So I finally got to to getting my new parts into usage (MPG B550 + R7 5700X + Arctic R34 + 2x16GB Kingston Fury) and it all runs well. One strange thing im noticing is programs reporting the current CPU frequency wrong (?)

LIke as im typing right now heres what programs are reading:

CPU-Z - 3599 ~ 4523Mhz

HWinfo - 3600 ~ 3733Mhz

Task Manager - 3900 ~ 4150Mhz

Ryzen Master - "I sleep"

 

I've been digging around and it seems due to the cpu architecture itself its all just polling and reporting in a different way so most software report things erroneously?

I wan't to trust Ryzen Master since its from AMD itself and Task Manager is well.. Task Manager. Everything seems to be in order right?

yes its an "issue" with ryzen,  but only for idle frequencies. 

 

Ryzen master seems to be the only one to recognize it correctly and also display correctly.  should be around 200mhz idle, right?

 

idk i never use ryzen master,  i don't like it... and idc about idle frequencies,  temps are enough to know it's "idle" 

[Murasaki]

Just now, Mark Kaine said:

yes its an "issue" with ryzen,  but only for idle frequencies. 

 

Ryzen master seems to be the only one to recognize it correctly and also display correctly.  should be around 200mhz idle, right?

 

idk i never use ryzen master,  i don't like it... and idc about idle frequencies,  temps are enough to know it's "idle" 

Yeah 200-300. Temps are fine aswell so I'll just roll with it

[Mark Kaine]

4 minutes ago, Murasaki said:

Yeah 200-300. Temps are fine aswell so I'll just roll with it

i really like icue, shows me pretty much all i want and isnt too cluttered,  but mostly because it shows me power and voltages in real time as well ...

 

but yeah, the cpu is as idle as it gets, no doubt about it lol...