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Or rather, what are at least good?

 

I've been unable to find a simple answer to this question by googling, I only know that WD Reds have had a few fiascoes recently and I want to avoid them. If I'm looking for a NAS drive, are there any other brands/products lines to avoid?

 

Are Seagate Exos or Ironwolfs good? Anything to beware to avoid in those lineups?

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7 minutes ago, Pyroven said:

Are Seagate Exos or Ironwolfs good?

ye they are

 

7 minutes ago, Pyroven said:

Anything to beware to avoid in those lineups?

not really

This drive with 12tb is the best for the money Seagate IronWolf NAS 12 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive (ST12000VN0008) - PCPartPicker

But this has a more sensible price for 4tb (90 bucks) Seagate IronWolf NAS 4 TB 3.5" 5400 RPM Internal Hard Drive (ST4000VN006) - PCPartPicker

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Not sure about specific models, but make sure you get CMR drives and not SMR, as the latter is soo much slower.

 

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Exos/Ironwolfs are fine, depending on location the best value is usually in the 16-20TB range these days.

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13 minutes ago, Pyroven said:

Or rather, what are at least good?

 

I've been unable to find a simple answer to this question by googling, I only know that WD Reds have had a few fiascoes recently and I want to avoid them. If I'm looking for a NAS drive, are there any other brands/products lines to avoid?

 

Are Seagate Exos or Ironwolfs good? Anything to beware to avoid in those lineups?

Nothing wrong with reds. Just make sure you get the ones that are CMR (i think they fixed the naming to make it more clear, but confirm before you buy). Ironwolf is the Seagate equivalent. 

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12 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

Nothing wrong with reds.

You need "Red Pro", that was the whole controversy, downgrading normal reds to SMR.

 

Also there's been some more fuss lately about WD drives popping up a SMART warning as soon as the warranty expires, so they haven't exactly given up on the deceptive practices it seems...

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4 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

You need "Red Pro", that was the whole controversy, downgrading normal reds to SMR.

 

Also there's been some more fuss lately about WD drives popping up a SMART warning as soon as the warranty expires, so they haven't exactly given up on the deceptive practices it seems...

I don’t think that’s entirely true. I have purchased normal reds since the CMR/SMR controversy, and they were CMR.

 

Maybe more has changed since the original controversy? 

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Looks like there's some "Red Plus" as well now...

 

Anyway there are lists around, just make sure to look up what you're interested in.

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21 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

I don’t think that’s entirely true. I have purchased normal reds since the CMR/SMR controversy, and they were CMR.

I think there was a capacity break between the sneaky-SMR Reds and CMR Reds. The 12 TB Red drives I've got are all CMR. (Well, they're white-label drives shucked from WD Elements enclosures, but they're Red equivalent.)

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8 hours ago, filpo said:

ye they are

 

not really

This drive with 12tb is the best for the money Seagate IronWolf NAS 12 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive (ST12000VN0008) - PCPartPicker

But this has a more sensible price for 4tb (90 bucks) Seagate IronWolf NAS 4 TB 3.5" 5400 RPM Internal Hard Drive (ST4000VN006) - PCPartPicker

12tb Exos had a bad run. Best to avoid them (only the 12tb - other sizes are ok)

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Get rid of recent WD Red drives in less than 8TB, such as those with suffix "EZAZ" in model names. Also avoided should be WD Blue or Seagate Barracuda series.

 

In drives with capacity of 12TB or more, Seagate Exos & WD Ultrastar series are designed for datacenters and thus definitely robust. IronWolf/WD Red Plus or Pro series are physically identical to Exos/Ultrastar but downgraded due to early defects, still they have decent performance & services like factory rescue of data.

In drives with 8TB or less, consider surveillance-oriented drives like WD Purple or Seagate SkyHawk series.😋

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