7900XT or 7900XTX

[Tibby]

I'm thinking about buying a new graphics card for a new build. The price difference is 300gbp.What one do i go for?

[Dukesilver27-]

Details, please.

Mainly rig spec, resolution, types of games and expected performance, preferred budget, etc.

[Tibby]

2 minutes ago, Dukesilver27- said:

Details, please.

Mainly rig spec, resolution, types of games and expected performance, preferred budget, etc.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/fxqX8r rn 1080p but plan on getting 1440p or even 4k. I play esports titles but want to explore more intensive games. I want to know whats better value

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, Tibby said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/fxqX8r rn 1080p but plan on getting 1440p or even 4k. I play esports titles but want to explore more intensive games. I want to know whats better value

Since 4k gaming is a waste, and you seem to care about money.... the 7900XT is the better value.  Play in 1080p or 1440p.  Skip the hype of 4K until you can comfortably afford it, and by that I mean you don't give two shits what anything costs.

[Tibby]

1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

Since 4k gaming is a waste, and you seem to care about money.... the 7900XT is the better value.  Play in 1080p or 1440p.  Skip the hype of 4K until you can comfortably afford it, and by that I mean you don't give two shits what anything costs.

Aight thanks tbf the system is probably still overkill for what i want to do anyway. Another question. In terms of value i5 or i7 13th gen?

 

[Dukesilver27-]

Apart from what has been said, 13700K is a waste for gaming, 13600K performs about the same and costs way less.

And 7900 XTX is a good 4K GPU, buying it for 1440p is simply a waste of money, you'd have to get a 240hz 1440p monitor to take advantage of it.

My 12400+6800 XT comfortably get 100+fps in 1440p ultra in every game w/o RT, imagine a 7900 XTX.

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, Tibby said:

Aight thanks tbf the system is probably still overkill for what i want to do anyway. Another question. In terms of value i5 or i7 13th gen?

 

Intel's 13600k is arguably their best gaming chip, so I'd look there.  But if you're going for the 7900XT, I'd pair it with the 7700x to be honest.  Either will be more than enough for a great 1440p experience though.

 

Just depends which you prefer.

 

If you're looking at an AIO, and want great cooling... may want to look at Arctic, Deepcool, EK... and not Corsair.  They're way too pricey for their cooling, but if you want super rainbow brite action... Corsair is the option.

 

Nm, I see you like Corsair for some reason.  AIO, RAM, Case and PSU.  

[fade2black001]

6 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Since 4k gaming is a waste, and you seem to care about money.... the 7900XT is the better value.  Play in 1080p or 1440p.  Skip the hype of 4K until you can comfortably afford it, and by that I mean you don't give two shits what anything costs.

4k gaming is a waste? Are your eyes OK there man? Going from 1080P to 4k is a night and day difference.  Its also not a hype, 1080P is old now and 4k is where it's at

[Tibby]

Just now, Dedayog said:

Intel's 13600k is arguably their best gaming chip, so I'd look there.  But if you're going for the 7900XT, I'd pair it with the 7700x to be honest.  Either will be more than enough for a great 1440p experience though.

 

Just depends which you prefer.

 

If you're looking at an AIO, and want great cooling... may want to look at Arctic, Deepcool, EK... and not Corsair.  They're way too pricey for their cooling, but if you want super rainbow brite action... Corsair is the option.

 

Nm, I see you like Corsair for some reason.  AIO, RAM, Case and PSU.  

tbf i went corsair for the cooler and case because there was a bundle for like 100 less than if you was to buy them separately. I went corsair psu because the rm850i has been really reliable for me. I just like how corsair ram looks aswell

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 minute ago, fade2black001 said:

4k gaming is a waste? Are your eyes OK there man? Going from 1080P to 4k is a night and day difference.  Its also not a hype, 1080P is old now and 4k is where it's at

4K looks good, sure, but it doesn't typically run well enough to justify the cost.

 

Money aside, plenty of people who would rather play at 1440p144-165 over 4k60.

[fade2black001]

26 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

4K looks good, sure, but it doesn't typically run well enough to justify the cost.

 

Money aside, plenty of people who would rather play at 1440p144-165 over 4k60.

4k 120 is where its at

[SorryBella]

4 minutes ago, fade2black001 said:

4k 120 is where its at

Youre either just delusionally deep in envy or are in huge buyers copium. 4k is genuinely hard to tell at average monitor size of 32 inches, you really only see the benefit of it in 45-50 inch class which is why it make sense on TV. Its true in 2018, its true now. If youre looking at edge tech monitor, 1440p240 or 1440p QD-OLED is going to make more difference in your gaming experience than just "big number good".

But besides that, back to OP issue.

 

13700K is overkill, and id definitely used the 100 pound difference to get the 7900XTX in the first place. But if cost compression is OP priority, its fine to go with 13600K and 7900XT, or even cut down to 13400F to get that 7900XTX at similar total cost.

[Tibby]

8 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

Youre either just delusionally deep in envy or are in huge buyers copium. 4k is genuinely hard to tell at average monitor size of 32 inches, you really only see the benefit of it in 45-50 inch class which is why it make sense on TV. Its true in 2018, its true now. If youre looking at edge tech monitor, 1440p240 or 1440p QD-OLED is going to make more difference in your gaming experience than just "big number good".

But besides that, back to OP issue.

 

13700K is overkill, and id definitely used the 100 pound difference to get the 7900XTX in the first place. But if cost compression is OP priority, its fine to go with 13600K and 7900XT, or even cut down to 13400F to get that 7900XTX at similar total cost.

ok thanks im gonna think about this one heavily

 

[fade2black001]

1 hour ago, SorryClaire said:

Youre either just delusionally deep in envy or are in huge buyers copium. 4k is genuinely hard to tell at average monitor size of 32 inches, you really only see the benefit of it in 45-50 inch class which is why it make sense on TV. Its true in 2018, its true now. If youre looking at edge tech monitor, 1440p240 or 1440p QD-OLED is going to make more difference in your gaming experience than just "big number good".

But besides that, back to OP issue.

 

13700K is overkill, and id definitely used the 100 pound difference to get the 7900XTX in the first place. But if cost compression is OP priority, its fine to go with 13600K and 7900XT, or even cut down to 13400F to get that 7900XTX at similar total cost.

That why I game on a 55" TV

 

Also telling OP to go for a 7900XTX for 1080P is just telling him to waste money. Even an XT model is still a waste of money at 1080P or even 1440P for that matter. Its INSANE overkill

 

TC if you want to waste a ton of money by going for like a top of line build for 1080P gaming then that's all on you but you do not need this kind of hardware for it at all unless you're not looking to upgrade for the next 10 years or so then, OK

[SorryBella]

3 minutes ago, fade2black001 said:

Also telling OP to go for a 7900XTX for 1080P is just telling him to waste money. Even an XT model is still a waste of money at 1080P or even 1440P for that matter. Its INSANE overkill

Hard to know without knowing OPs games. A lot of games nowadays scales really well with big GPU likes of "that wizard game", The Finals, and Atomic Heart. And 1440p is still pretty GPU bounded in a lot of case, so there are still frames to gain there.

[fade2black001]

1 minute ago, SorryClaire said:

Hard to know without knowing OPs games. A lot of games nowadays scales really well with big GPU likes of "that wizard game", The Finals, and Atomic Heart. And 1440p is still pretty GPU bounded in a lot of case, so there are still frames to gain there.

That wizard game? You mean Hogwarts Legacy? I play that game really well on high setting at 4k and got 70+ FPS on it with using a 7900XT. All what TC really needs is a cheap decent card like the 6600xt and he'll be perfectly fine for his needs. This also saves him like 500 dollars as well (if not more). He can also tone down the CPU as well to save even more money.

[Dedayog]

8 hours ago, fade2black001 said:

That why I game on a 55" TV

 

Also telling OP to go for a 7900XTX for 1080P is just telling him to waste money. Even an XT model is still a waste of money at 1080P or even 1440P for that matter. Its INSANE overkill

 

TC if you want to waste a ton of money by going for like a top of line build for 1080P gaming then that's all on you but you do not need this kind of hardware for it at all unless you're not looking to upgrade for the next 10 years or so then, OK

How is a 7900xt insane overkill for 1440p when you have touted 120Hz as being where it's at?  By that logic, he would want 1440p 120+ right?  A 7900XT will satisfy that for years, which again is what you want.  Especially with an UW, which is a significant uplift in pixels over a standard 1440p monitor.

 

You don't buy a PC to get 1440p/60 today and watch it dwindle as the years go and the games get more intense.  

 

For example, Ark Survival Evolved only gets 80-120fps on 1440p UW with a 6900XT.  He'll be greatly served by a 7900XT for a good bit, which is what one of the points of building a PC is.  

[PriitM]

11 hours ago, Dukesilver27- said:

Apart from what has been said, 13700K is a waste for gaming, 13600K performs about the same and costs way less.

And 7900 XTX is a good 4K GPU, buying it for 1440p is simply a waste of money, you'd have to get a 240hz 1440p monitor to take advantage of it.

My 12400+6800 XT comfortably get 100+fps in 1440p ultra in every game w/o RT, imagine a 7900 XTX.

7700K with a 7900XTX Nitro. 4K 100+ (even tho im on a 4K60 monitor) everywhere. Some titles are under performing due to drivers being typical AMD. But history has proven AMD improving well with drivers. So its just a matter of time when the XT and XTX get unleashed.
Cant comment on RT since the only RT game I have is Witcher 3... which has a rather poor RT implementation anyway.

[fade2black001]

48 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

How is a 7900xt insane overkill for 1440p when you have touted 120Hz as being where it's at?  By that logic, he would want 1440p 120+ right?  A 7900XT will satisfy that for years, which again is what you want.  Especially with an UW, which is a significant uplift in pixels over a standard 1440p monitor.

 

You don't buy a PC to get 1440p/60 today and watch it dwindle as the years go and the games get more intense.  

 

For example, Ark Survival Evolved only gets 80-120fps on 1440p UW with a 6900XT.  He'll be greatly served by a 7900XT for a good bit, which is what one of the points of building a PC is.  

You mention a game that is extremely poorly optimized. So of course a 6900XT is going to have problems with it.  If he does go the 1440P 120+ route an XTX will last him 5+ years

[Tibby]

3 minutes ago, fade2black001 said:

You mention a game that is extremely poorly optimized. So of course a 6900XT is going to have problems with it.  If he does go the 1440P 120+ route an XTX will last him 5+ years

Tbf thats what i plan to do but i play esports title and occasionally cod and gta but i want the head room so i can explore sim games and more demanding games if i want

[fade2black001]

4 hours ago, Tibby said:

Tbf thats what i plan to do but i play esports title and occasionally cod and gta but i want the head room so i can explore sim games and more demanding games if i want

Its your choice man. Well whatever you decide to go with you won't be disappointed that's for sure.... Esport games can be played on a toaster and GTA 5 doesn't need much either to run but is massively more demanding than any Esport game. If you're targeting 1440P 240 then you your setup will work for a bit (especially with Esport games). Although I don't think 240 is worth as anything after 120 you get massive diminishing returns. 30 to 60fps is a night and day difference, 60 to 120 is a night and day difference and  120 to 240 is like not nearly that big of a jump. Its like yeah you feel it and see it but its like meh... Also a 1440 240 monitor is up there especially if you want to go for an IPS panel or even ultrawide. I know you already bought a cooler but the thermalright peerless assassin 120 se is only 40 bucks and it rivals the Noctua NHD-15 if not better in some cases.. Its perhaps the best budget air cooler out there now.

 

Well anyways... have fun with your new build