Selecting Your Own Post as the Solution Counts as +1 Community Answers

[WWicket]

Not that it really impacts anything, but it seems like you should be allowed to choose your own post as the solution, but it should not count towards your community answers/solutions counter. 

 

 Eg., 

 

[dizmo]

I've always thought this too. They don't see it as an issue.

For some reason they care about rep points but don't consider best answers, which IMO is more important, the same.

[heimdali]

Why shouldn't you be rewarded for giving good answers, regardless of who gives them?

 

Not that it matters, but shouldn't you get rewards for good answers even if nobody clicks on the button?

 

[WWicket]

4 minutes ago, heimdali said:

Why shouldn't you be rewarded for giving good answers, regardless of who gives them?

 

Sure, if there was some metric of good other than their own self-determination. As is, this is like a company creating an award for best product in class, and then giving it to their own products with no unbiased-party involvement. It is an obvious conflict of interest that makes the indicator useless. 

[WWicket]

14 minutes ago, heimdali said:

Why shouldn't you be rewarded for giving good answers, regardless of who gives them?

 

Or to make it even clearer, because they can do this....................................... 

(*I will unmark as solution after a while, but I think this illustrates the issue)

[heimdali]

24 minutes ago, WWicket said:

Or to make it even clearer, because they can do this....................................... 

(*I will unmark as solution after a while, but I think this illustrates the issue)

This isn't a solution.  Maybe noone should be allowed to click the button on posts that aren't a solution

 

What are you illustrating?

 

[WWicket]

6 minutes ago, heimdali said:

This isn't a solution.  Maybe noone should be allowed to click the button on posts that aren't a solution

 

What are you illustrating?

 

That clicking 'best solution' doesn't mean it actually was a good solution, so - 

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Why shouldn't you be rewarded for giving good answers, regardless of who gives them?

- is largely besides to point as to whether users should be incentivized to choose their own answers as the solution. 

[heimdali]

30 minutes ago, WWicket said:

Sure, if there was some metric of good other than their own self-determination.

What's wrong with self-determination??

30 minutes ago, WWicket said:

As is, this is like a company creating an award for best product in class, and then giving it to their own products with no unbiased-party involvement. It is an obvious conflict of interest that makes the indicator useless. 

I don't think that's a fair analogy because posts in this forum are subject to possible unbiased non-self involvement (ignoring that, as enthusiasts (or at least users), we all may be biased to begin with).  And sometimes I do come up with a solution through talking to others and if the solution I came up with through a discussion --- and I post it here so others can profit from it --- works for me, then why shouldn't I be allowed to mark my own post as a solution?

 

[heimdali]

Just now, WWicket said:

That clicking 'best solution' doesn't mean it actually was a good solution, so - 

- is largely besides to point as to whether users should be incentivized to choose their own answers as the solution. 

"Best solution" is, to put it mildly, a difficult idea.

 

Why shouldn't posters be incentivized to come up with the "best solution" regardless of who came up with it?

 

[WWicket]

5 minutes ago, heimdali said:

...then why shouldn't I be allowed to mark my own post as a solution?

 

I specifically said that I thought you should be able to mark it as the solution, it just shouldn't count towards your community answers - in my opinion. I don't think there is any value in engaging with you on the topic further, as it is clear to me that we disagree fundamentally on the underlying purpose for the community answers metric. (Which isn't to say you shouldn't disagree ... just that I think we are going in loops and don't see the value in discussing it further). 

[LogicalDrm]

IIRC the system isn't smart enough for that.

[heimdali]

9 minutes ago, WWicket said:

I specifically said that I thought you should be able to mark it as the solution, it just shouldn't count towards your community answers - in my opinion. I don't think there is any value in engaging with you on the topic further, as it is clear to me that we disagree fundamentally on the underlying purpose for the community answers metric. 

Ok, you can argue that marking something as solution which you came up with yourself shouldn't count towards your community answers even when you were inspired by that very community.

 

So add another button for different solutions, the kind that you came up with yourself and the kind that was provided or inspired by someone else, and make it so that you can't click the button that counts when you figured it out yourself.  That would sidestep the possible disagreements (and I will refrain from saying that it may create new ones (at least for now)).

 

[WWicket]

7 minutes ago, LogicalDrm said:

IIRC the system isn't smart enough for that.

It's hard to imagine an architecture where that wouldn't be trivial to implement, at least if you didn't care about correcting solution counts retroactively, so I am assuming that means there is no access to the underlying codebase? Forum is SaaS?

[heimdali]

2 minutes ago, WWicket said:

It seems like it would be trivial to implement, at least if you didn't care about correcting solution counts retroactively, so I am assuming that means there is no access to the underlying code base?

If the system was that smart, it would disagree with itself eventually.

 

[LogicalDrm]

5 hours ago, WWicket said:

It's hard to imagine an architecture where that wouldn't be trivial to implement, at least if you didn't care about correcting solution counts retroactively, so I am assuming that means there is no access to the underlying codebase? Forum is SaaS?

I meant that forum software doesn't make note of who made the post in reference to who started the thread. Threads and posts are treated similarly at least. I'm not the dev or anywhere near it. Just remembering previously suggested things.

[WWicket]

10 hours ago, LogicalDrm said:

I meant that forum software doesn't make note of who made the post in reference to who started the thread. Threads and posts are treated similarly at least. I'm not the dev or anywhere near it. Just remembering previously suggested things.

It seems high-unlikely that those are not stored variables, or at the very least easily derivable, since there are features that clearly check both.

[Sebendipitous]

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