Screwdriver enhancement (better torque if wrench slot)

[Guest]

Sometimes people need extra torque with what they do for really tight screws, so people that use screwdrivers as hammers tend to like to make a few modifications.

 

Some older screwdrivers would come with what looked like a "nut" but at the top of the shaft (next to the handle) there would be a shape to allow someone to put a wrench on it to get some extra leverage.

 

Some people that can't be bothered to find screwdrivers with this part used to drill holes in the handle of the screwdriver (towards the bottom near the shaft) so they could stick another screwdriver into the hole and get their extra leverage that way.

example of wrench torque positioning:

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example of "I have a power drill and this job isn't paid by the hour:

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except that there'd be a hole and the screwdriver would go through the handle.

 

[Ravendarat]

Its pretty rare to see that on a driver with changeable bits. With a place to to use a wrench on the shaft you are able to put way more torque on the shaft than its designed for, definitely not advisable. If you are in a situation where you need that kinda torque on a fastener you probably should be using a different tool than a ratcheting screwdriver

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Ravendarat said:

Its pretty rare to see that on a driver with changeable bits. With a place to to use a wrench on the shaft you are able to put way more torque on the shaft than its designed for, definitely not advisable. If you are in a situation where you need that kinda torque on a fastener you probably should be using a different tool than a ratcheting screwdriver

I guess Linus will need a parts section cuz I'd be breaking a lot of delrin.

[Ravendarat]

1 minute ago, fpo said:

I guess Linus will need a parts section cuz I'd be breaking a lot of delrin.

Whats "delrin"?

[Ravendarat]

If thats what the handle is made out of than it wont be breaking unless you are using them in a way thats not intended. Like doing something dumb and putting a wrench on the handle, in which case they should deny warranty

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Ravendarat said:

Whats "delrin"?

One of the plastics used in the ratchet described in the Project Farm review/comparison video.

[Ravendarat]

Ok, ya under normal use I cant see the handle breaking, also to your original post, screwdrivers arent hammers and shouldnt be used as such.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Ravendarat said:

Ok, ya under normal use I cant see the handle breaking, also to your original post, screwdrivers arent hammers and shouldnt be used as such.

You must've never fixed things for a living.

[Needfuldoer]

My go-to #2 Philips driver has both of these features. Honestly, I've never really used them. Unless you press the tip hard into the screw head, it's just going to cam out when you have at it with a wrench. If I can't get a screw to budge by hand, I'll break out an impact.

 

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1 minute ago, Ravendarat said:

Whats "delrin"?

Delrin is a very hard, self-lubricating plastic. It's very wear-resistant, so it's used for working parts like gears. The flat washer between the direction ring and handle on the all-black LTT driver is Delrin (the orange one is ABS).

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Needfuldoer said:

My go-to #2 Philips driver has both of these features. Honestly, I've never really used them. Unless you press the tip hard into the screw head, it's just going to cam out when you have at it with a wrench. If I can't get a screw to budge by hand, I'll break out an impact.

 

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Awesome.
Yeah, I don't have an impact driver, but I do have a small collection of screwdrivers and things. I just hate having to grab a bunch of different screw drivers or all these different kits.

I like that the LTT screw driver is self contained.
I've never *needed* an impact driver for a screw. Just getting the right leverage on the driver has always been good enough for the things I've needed to do.
Sometimes loctite or some rust or time just holds some screws in a little too tight for regular screwing.

[Ravendarat]

49 minutes ago, fpo said:

You must've never fixed things for a living.

22 years as an automotive tech and counting, so ya ive used a couple tools. Use the right tool for the right job and it saves a lot of work in the long run

[Mr.Meerkat]

1 hour ago, Ravendarat said:

screwdrivers arent hammers and shouldnt be used as such.

Me using my drill as a hammer...

Anything can become a hammer if you try hard enough  

 

p.s. No "drills" were hurt. Just my 10 year old £15 Ikea 7.2V "drill" being used as a hammer, which surprisingly is still alive and it's gone through everything from hardwood to brick (albeit with a lot of pilot holes mind you). 

[Guest]

46 minutes ago, Ravendarat said:

22 years as an automotive tech and counting, so ya ive used a couple tools. Use the right tool for the right job and it saves a lot of work in the long run

Ahh, so you get paid to fix things.
Lucky few.

[IkeaGnome]

I'd imagine setting it up so that people can over torque the ratcheting mechanism is asking for a lot of headache.

At least this way it's on you when they see wrench marks on the Delrin. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, IkeaGnome said:

I'd imagine setting it up so that people can over torque the ratcheting mechanism is asking for a lot of headache.

At least this way it's on you when they see wrench marks on the Delrin. 

Maybe there can be a "premium" screwdriver that can be serviced/oiled with a metal ratchet instead of a delrin one, like alloy, steel or titanium.

[IkeaGnome]

1 minute ago, fpo said:

Maybe there can be a "premium" screwdriver that can be serviced/oiled with a metal ratchet instead of a delrin one, like alloy, steel or titanium.

There are.

https://shop.snapon.com/categories/Ratcheting-Screwdriver-Sets/681249

[Guest]

1 minute ago, IkeaGnome said:

There are.

https://shop.snapon.com/categories/Ratcheting-Screwdriver-Sets/681249

with the wrench thingy.

Am I the only one that like... abuses tools? xD

Gotta get stuff done and power tools are too dangerous for the delicate parts.

[IkeaGnome]

4 minutes ago, fpo said:

with the wrench thingy.

Am I the only one that like... abuses tools? xD

Gotta get stuff done and power tools are too dangerous for the delicate parts.

Almost like they know people will do stupid shit and over torque the ratcheting mechanism.

Right tool for the right job. Coming up on 10 years in mining/heavy equipment mechanic work. 

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When it's how you put the food on your table, you're more likely to treat things right.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, IkeaGnome said:

Almost like they know people will do stupid shit and over torque the ratcheting mechanism.

Right tool for the right job. Coming up on 10 years in mining/heavy equipment mechanic work. 

 

I'm a 10 year professional airsoft/paintball tech.

But 15~ years in non-professional.

Maybe I'm dumb haha.

PS those picture are dope

[Yoinkerman]

3 hours ago, Ravendarat said:

22 years as an automotive tech and counting, so ya ive used a couple tools. Use the right tool for the right job and it saves a lot of work in the long run

In my experience the screwdriver just explodes if you try to use an actual wrench on it, second best outcome is the screw rounds immediately from camming out.

 

impact all the way

[Ravendarat]

3 minutes ago, Yoinkerman said:

In my experience the screwdriver just explodes if you try to use an actual wrench on it, second best outcome is the screw rounds immediately from camming out.

 

impact all the way

Totally agree

[Neroon]

Proper tool use is essential. You pay 70 for a ratcheting screwdriver thinking it's used as this massive multitool that does absolutely everything, you have the wrong expectations. It's a specialty tool, and should be used as such.

 

I don't mind misusing some cheap screwdrivers I own, but when I use quality tools, I definitely don't. And cheap is relative, if it's the best you own, don't misuse them.

[Guest]

Dang... it's like none of you saw Linus smile as he whipped out an angle grinder before.