Is My Ryzen 5 5600X too hot? idle temperature is 56-63C? and if I open a browser and couple tabs it gets to 64-73C

[zaidh99]

So a couple days ago I installed this new process (from Ryzen 3 1300x) so now my setup using the same cooling fan my old CPU used, Wraith Stealth Cooler on Ryzen 5 5600x with GPU 1660 SUPER, motherboard B350 F
And the case is Xigmatek Hawthorn,
I think as I installed the temperature was fine? I wasn't too focused on it, but then I started checking since I want to make sure I put the right amount of thermal paste, a friend pointed out it might be a fake one, it seemed legit and as far as I can check it was legit (Arctic MX-4), I wanted to check what the temperature get to while playing Rainbow six siege and it got to 88C max.

recapping couple of things; 1)the thermal paste might be an issue?    2)The fan used seems running well?
3)I turned off PBO from Ryzen master,      4)I also reset my MSI afterburner changes to make sure I am not putting too much load on my CPU yet no improvement,
5)Is the case too small?
I will post couple of info hopefully any is helpful for you guys to help me, cause now I am not playing just staring at what could be wrong.
  here is my CPU temp recorded

  And these CPU info hopefully all needed for my case? Any more info you need I will try to post if you ask for it  
(core voltage jumped to 1.373V as I am posting this?)

 

 

I saw these suggestions on reddit just not sure how good they are to go with, what do you guys think?

[zaidh99]

If it matters its around 30C in the room, it feels hotter 

 

[An0maly_76]

Just now, zaidh99 said:

If it matters its around 30C in the room, it feels hotter 

 

Ryzens do fluctuate a bit and ambient temp does make a difference. My 5900X idles at 38-42C from cold boot, but once run hard, tends to fluctuate between 38-46C, sometimes hovering around 48-50C, ambient temp depending. That said, the 5600X is said to be fine with a stock Wraith cooler, and while it serves the purpose, it will run hotter than it will with an aftermarket cooler.

[Alvin853]

The wraith stealth cooler is not a very good cooler, so expect the temps to be on the high side compared to what other people on the internet are reporting. But the temps are still fine, I think Zen 3 can go to 100°C before it starts throttling. I managed to push my 5600G to 96°C at over 160W power consumption and it didn't throttle. 

Just look at some reviews and figure out if your CPU performs as it should. If you see low performance, then you need to be worried.

[GuiltySpark_]

6 minutes ago, zaidh99 said:

If it matters its around 30C in the room

 

If its 30C in your room, forget worrying about the PC, you've got larger issues.

[An0maly_76]

Oh, on another note -- 5600X is safe to 95C at full load. 5800X / 5900X / 5950X are safe to 90C at full load. So 96 was pushing it, but more or less within limits.

[Pixelfie]

29 minutes ago, zaidh99 said:

And the case is Xigmatek Hawthorn,

Doesn't look like that case has good airflow. When I look it up, I see no vents. 0. Try removing the side panel, that should tell if it's an airflow issue, which I'm pretty sure it is.

 

While ambient temps affect the temp of your components, it shouldn't be that bad.

[zaidh99]

@An0maly_76 @GuiltySpark_ @Alvin853 The temp on the apps for the city is 27, inside the house is way hotter, so 30 is safe bet and the humidity is 50% 
tbh I kinda forgot what temps my old cpu got to but I dont remember it being that high

Do you think I should change my thermal paste? I am honestly lost to what to do, I recently bought it I am not looking to play any games and have it break on me. Buying a better fan could be possible but that seems expensive. Is the case okay? 

[zaidh99]

16 minutes ago, Alvin853 said:

The wraith stealth cooler is not a very good cooler, so expect the temps to be on the high side compared to what other people on the internet are reporting. But the temps are still fine, I think Zen 3 can go to 100°C before it starts throttling. I managed to push my 5600G to 96°C at over 160W power consumption and it didn't throttle. 

Just look at some reviews and figure out if your CPU performs as it should. If you see low performance, then you need to be worried.

 From this video the stock fan seemed to put similar temperature during Cinebench 

So I think its a fan "problem"? and tbh I am dying myself from the heat here 

[zaidh99]

4 minutes ago, Pixelfie said:

Doesn't look like that case has good airflow. When I look it up, I see no vents. 0. Try removing the side panel, that should tell if it's an airflow issue, which I'm pretty sure it is.

 

While ambient temps affect the temp of your components, it shouldn't be that bad. When I ran my 10400F (similar heat to 5600X) with stock cooler (way worse than AMD's one) and the ambient temps are above 30 it never went above 70.

The case does look too closed to me but there is a "vent" up top and from the back with a fan
The three fans upfront are a bit stupid imo? It sealed with a plastic panel if you noticed that?
I will try to remove the side panel again but I didnt notice much of a difference tbh 

[zaidh99]

Should I unironically put a fan near the PC?

 

[Alvin853]

2 minutes ago, zaidh99 said:

@An0maly_76 @GuiltySpark_ @Alvin853 The temp on the apps for the city is 27, inside the house is way hotter, so 30 is safe bet and the humidity is 50% 
tbh I kinda forgot what temps my old cpu got to but I dont remember it being that high

Do you think I should change my thermal paste? I am honestly lost to what to do, I recently bought it I am not looking to play any games and have it break on me. Buying a better fan could be possible but that seems expensive. Is the case okay? 

Your CPU doesn't care if it runs at 90°C or 70°C, unless you're experiencing problems, you don't need to do anything. If you are experiencing problems, the first thing would be grab an aftermarket CPU cooler. Even in a bad airflow case a basic aftermarket cooler performs much better than the stock coolers.

[zaidh99]

4 minutes ago, Alvin853 said:

Your CPU doesn't care if it runs at 90°C or 70°C, unless you're experiencing problems, you don't need to do anything. If you are experiencing problems, the first thing would be grab an aftermarket CPU cooler. Even in a bad airflow case a basic aftermarket cooler performs much better than the stock coolers.

Maybe a silly question but do you have an idea if opening the side and front panel of the pc helps? 

 

 

 

[zaidh99]

I assume all my CPU settings are fine since noone commented on them? I should check the air flow, clear the case panels
And if it persists change the cpu fan? And maybe check the thermal paste?

 

[Mo5]

I'm not sure if 5000 series still does this but back in the og ryzen days the temps reported weren't actually accurate (source: https://www.eteknix.com/amd-ryzen-temperature-reporting-is-wrong/)

[zaidh99]

2 minutes ago, Mo5 said:

I'm not sure if 5000 series still does this but back in the og ryzen days the temps reported weren't actually accurate (source: https://www.eteknix.com/amd-ryzen-temperature-reporting-is-wrong/)

Tbh I just feel lost rn with what to do so I might wait till tomorrow and reapply thermal paste or go to a PC store and check with them. I do like playing games and not sure how healthy it is to keep on playing games with 90C temp, but I guess with everyone saying its fine it should be fine 

 

[Mo5]

10 minutes ago, zaidh99 said:

Tbh I just feel lost rn with what to do so I might wait till tomorrow and reapply thermal paste or go to a PC store and check with them. I do like playing games and not sure how healthy it is to keep on playing games with 90C temp, but I guess with everyone saying its fine it should be fine 

 

double check with a few other programs to see if the temps match up... HWMONITOR would probably be a good start

[zaidh99]

7 minutes ago, Mo5 said:

double check with a few other programs to see if the temps match up... HWMONITOR would probably be a good start

Oh I did check with multiple programs the temperatures are high, for example Fall guys just opening it in the main screen its 80C

[freeagent]

Well.. 30c ambient, easy bake oven case, AMD box cooler.. its understandable why the CPU is having a hard time. My 5600X idles in the mid to upper 20s, and loads under 80. PBO is set to 4800MHz. But.. its not 30c in my  house.. The AC is set to 75.

[mike_seps]

@zaidh99 I know in DM you were asking about my 5600x temps with Cinebench. Just finished the multicore test and highest peak was 72 across any core, die, package, really anything CPU related.  I do have the Corsair h100i AIO, which is admittedly way overkill for the 5060x, but even when I was running the Hyper 212 tower cooler, I was averaging around 75. You can grab a relatively cheap tower cooler online, and if you can get the front glass off the case, that would make a big difference.

[-rascal-]

The case/chassis you are using has 3x fans in the front....but they are completely useless.

Because there a big piece of glass / acrylic over them...with ZERO ventilation.

Yes, remove the side panel and see if you notice any temperature change -- if you do, then case airflow is part of the problem.

 

Understand The 5600X is a helluva a lot more CPU than a 1300X.

If you are using the same cooler, same setup, it will run warmer.

 

Plus, 30*C ambient.

Most reviewers have a controlled (air condition lab, etc)...for 20*C / 22*C / 24*C ambient.

If they are seeing 70*C in 20*C ambient, expect 80*C (+10*C) in 30*C (+10*C) ambient.

[zaidh99]

Thanks a bunch everyone really amazing community and helps in these hard times loll

I took the front panel *for the first time* I will try to remove plastic part and leave the frame 

if that doesnt help I will get a better cooler and check the thermal paste

 

[zaidh99]

Well here is the case rn (extra picture, I might have applied a bit too much force on the clippers heh)

 

I will run it and update here how it goes thanks again!

[zaidh99]

Also I want to ask if this cooler any good? Or is it the one I need? I have 0 knowledge about cpu coolers any help would be appreciated 

[zaidh99]

@mike_seps

 

would directing a fan onto the case be bad or good for it? Or should I just point it around