Parents wont let me use my hard earned money...

[DiscreetSheet29]

Budget (including currency): 1700 usd

Country: usa

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: premier pro, my steam library.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): I have a psu, ram, storage. 

 

I have saved up more than enough (1600 to be exact) to buy a 3070 because bestbuy is having a massive sale at the time of writing. I was gifted my entire system (10400, 1650) from my parents but now that I have a job and want to do some serious 4k editing, I wanna get a 12700k and a 3070. As my dad phrased it, "when we built the computer, I was hoping that it was built". What are your suggestions to buy the parts? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M9QNv3 Gonna get the new fractal design pop air when it goes to a decent price.

 

[da na]

Welcome to the forums!
Reason with your parents, don't just blow it on a new PC. Better in the long run

[747Dan]

Tech is always evolving and improving. The beauty of having a PC is that you can upgrade specific parts, so some may say that a PC is never fully built. I'm fairly new on budgeting so I won't comment too much on the price aspect, but deals are the best time to buy things (providing the next deal isn't twice as good ). Good luck, just let your parents know you appriciate them but to do your workload, the components in your current system won't step up to the job. It either comes down to replacing the entire PC, or a few components (I'm sure they'll eventually see the light when you put it to them like that)!

[Deadlagx]

Would change that monitor to something a little better. If you are really serious about 4k editing, save for a better monitor. For 450$ you can pick up https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pZmmP6/hp-x34-340-3440x1440-165-hz-monitor-2v7w4aaaba

 

which is a stellar monitor

 

If you want a cheaper option and you aren't 100% set on IPS panels, look into the darkmatter line from monoprice

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=42892&gclid=Cj0KCQjwtvqVBhCVARIsAFUxcRsJF0FeN4jK29nuTFMCKvhFHzZLLF1sj_3Pc5wUfeuasEsIDP3l7GIaAm1YEALw_wcB

 

27" 180hz qhd for 280$ USD right now on sale. Damn good deal for that monitor. Have personally used and it's great (imo.)

 

 

 

 

 

Respect your parents and understand there is probably a reason why your dad doesn't want you to blow your money. Make sure you have a good nest egg in your account to fall back on before you blow your hard earned cash man. It's a real crappy feeling when your car breaks down and you have no cash or you need something and have to ask around or have to pay the bills on a credit card. It happens to everyone, but try your best to be smart and avoid situations like that.  Your father may be trying to low-key or high key instill some good financial habits in you.

 

But, you can also let him know that tech is ever changing and your current pc was great and you appreciate it more than you can put into words, however, you want to explore 4k editing and your current build isn't cut out for it. If you are truly passionate about it you can find a way my brother.

 

good luck!

 

[Arika]

2 hours ago, DiscreetSheet29 said:

I have a job and want to do some serious 4k editing

when you say this.

 

Are you saying you have a job that requires you to edit 4k footage?

what kind of footage is it and what kind of "editing" are you doing? slicing clips together doesnt need that much power.

[Blue4130]

53 minutes ago, DiscreetSheet29 said:

Budget (including currency): 1700 usd

Country: usa

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: premier pro, my steam library.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): I have a psu, ram, storage. 

 

I have saved up more than enough (1600 to be exact) to buy a 3070 because bestbuy is having a massive sale at the time of writing. I was gifted my entire system (10400, 1650) from my parents but now that I have a job and want to do some serious 4k editing, I wanna get a 12700k and a 3070. As my dad phrased it, "when we built the computer, I was hoping that it was built". What are your suggestions to buy the parts? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M9QNv3 Gonna get the new fractal design pop air when it goes to a decent price.

 

How old are you? Do you still live with your parents? Do they give you spending cash/food/other means to live?

 

If yes, respect their rules, you'll be on your own soon enough and can buy a card then.

[IkeaGnome]

Might be a little easier to justify the GPU being necessary for editing if there wasn’t a complete work station in that build list you posted. 

[dizmo]

You can do editing on that machine, I'm pretty sure it just takes longer. If you're in a position where your parents are telling you what you can do with your money, I highly doubt you need to have it done at super fast speeds. Just wait the extra time it takes to complete.

 

What sale are you talking about? I don't see anything particularly cheap. There will also be sales on Black Friday, which will probably be better.

 

You have an entire build in that list. Your parents probably partially think their money was a waste if you're upgrading so quickly. If my kid did that, I'd be far less likely to buy them something expensive in the future.

[Brian McKee]

Your current system is more than capable of editing 4k footage, I wouldn't upgrade your computer if that's the only thing you want to do.

[OfficialTechSpace]

1 hour ago, Brian McKee said:

Your current system is more than capable of editing 4k footage, I wouldn't upgrade your computer if that's the only thing you want to do.

That depends on what one would define as capable. Theoretically, if you're very patient? Yes. Otherwise, 80% of the time spent editing will be just be waiting for your timeline to update after making something as small as a cut. That's without effects. 

 

I have a 3070 Ti, and a 5600X... even THAT'S barely a good 4K60 editing rig for my use, and we're talking footage shot on a Galaxy S21. So, not even that great. Takes about 10 seconds for my timeline to update and deem itself playable after making a single cut. When adding effects or doing time-lapse footage, the preview window is an absolute slideshow. Thats with GPU acceleration as well.

[brob]

10 hours ago, DiscreetSheet29 said:

Budget (including currency): 1700 usd

Country: usa

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: premier pro, my steam library.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): I have a psu, ram, storage. 

 

I have saved up more than enough (1600 to be exact) to buy a 3070 because bestbuy is having a massive sale at the time of writing. I was gifted my entire system (10400, 1650) from my parents but now that I have a job and want to do some serious 4k editing, I wanna get a 12700k and a 3070. As my dad phrased it, "when we built the computer, I was hoping that it was built". What are your suggestions to buy the parts? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M9QNv3 Gonna get the new fractal design pop air when it goes to a decent price.

 

 

Some issues with the build.

 

A B660 motherboard should be paired with an i7-12700 or i7-12700F, not a K or KF variant. 

 

Sixteen GB is not adequate for 4K editing.

 

The Focus case has an acrylic side panel. It will scratch.

 

A PSU is required.

 

I suspect a monitor stand for 2 screens up to 27" might have difficulty with a 28" screen.

 

 

GPU are on sale because new models will be appearing in a couple of months. This is exacerbated by the severe drop in demand due to digital currency crashes.

[Blue4130]

1 hour ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

That depends on what one would define as capable. Theoretically, if you're very patient? Yes. Otherwise, 80% of the time spent editing will be just be waiting for your timeline to update after making something as small as a cut. That's without effects. 

 

I have a 3070 Ti, and a 5600X... even THAT'S barely a good 4K60 editing rig for my use, and we're talking footage shot on a Galaxy S21. So, not even that great. Takes about 10 seconds for my timeline to update and deem itself playable after making a single cut. When adding effects or doing time-lapse footage, the preview window is an absolute slideshow. Thats with GPU acceleration as well.

A very easy way around this is to edit with proxies.

[venomtail]

No reason to get a whole new PC. Just upgrade your RAM and GPU, you should be enough. $250 seems super low for a 4K monitor, there's gotta be a reason why.

 

And $30 for a monitor arm? I wouldn't trust a $30 monitor arm to hold a single cheap 1080p monitor let alone two monitors. 

[maartendc]

On 7/2/2022 at 12:15 AM, DiscreetSheet29 said:

Budget (including currency): 1700 usd

Country: usa

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: premier pro, my steam library.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): I have a psu, ram, storage. 

 

I have saved up more than enough (1600 to be exact) to buy a 3070 because bestbuy is having a massive sale at the time of writing. I was gifted my entire system (10400, 1650) from my parents but now that I have a job and want to do some serious 4k editing, I wanna get a 12700k and a 3070. As my dad phrased it, "when we built the computer, I was hoping that it was built". What are your suggestions to buy the parts? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M9QNv3 Gonna get the new fractal design pop air when it goes to a decent price.

 

Your current system is a perfectly capable machine.

 

Your parents gifted you this machine probably 2 years ago or less, judging from the CPU. It would be reasonable that they would feel like you are wasting THEIR money, not yours, if you go and replace it now. Seems like a thoughtless thing to do to your parents. Don't expect them to gift you cool stuff in the future.

 

Spend your money on something else, or save it for when your pc REALLY needs an upgrade.

 

 

[jaslion]

On 7/2/2022 at 8:51 AM, OfficialTechSpace said:

That depends on what one would define as capable. Theoretically, if you're very patient? Yes. Otherwise, 80% of the time spent editing will be just be waiting for your timeline to update after making something as small as a cut. That's without effects. 

 

I have a 3070 Ti, and a 5600X... even THAT'S barely a good 4K60 editing rig for my use, and we're talking footage shot on a Galaxy S21. So, not even that great. Takes about 10 seconds for my timeline to update and deem itself playable after making a single cut. When adding effects or doing time-lapse footage, the preview window is an absolute slideshow. Thats with GPU acceleration as well.

My trick has always been to load the footage, encode it into a filetype/codec that runs well for the hardware im using (often the one eith the least compression) and then edit the footage from that. Usually just left my ol lappy to transcode that when I was sleeping.

 

Its a neat little trick but it works very well