How To Disable Windows Defender in Windows 11 (Solved).

[KoreyCreative]

Hello everyone,

My Issue is now solved by the help of the user @Vishera

With the help from the user and the video below I was able to fully disable Windows Defender in Microsoft Windows 11 64 bit Professional. The thing I think that made it work correctly is starting in safe mode, as I haven't tried that before watching this video.



The way to disable Windows Defender for me was in this YouTube video, just some reg edits.

 

[Lurick]

So you want to disable something that's designed to help protect you why? It doesn't consume any amount of resources unless it's running a full scan which is usually over in a minute and not run by default anyway.

[Zando_]

7 minutes ago, Lurick said:

So you want to disable something that's designed to help protect you why? It doesn't consume any amount of resources unless it's running a full scan which is usually over in a minute and not run by default anyway.

^^^ seen essentially no performance impact from Defender ever, across probably 15+ configurations of hardware at this point for just my personal stuff (we use Sophos at work, which similarly sips resources unless it’s actively running a scan, and that takes 5 minutes at most). 

[whispous]

Fully disabling Defender is not going to make your computer run drastically faster in the tasks you use it for. Having a decent, fully properly integrated antivirus will catch some things that aren't even "your fault."

 

Viruses/malware don't just come from "downloading pirated content" or looking at "weird porn". They come from normally legitimate but compromised websites, sometimes using exploits that are not yet patched in browsers/other software.

Software makers painfully regularly inadvertantly get their CDNs compromised.

 

It's not 2005 anymore. Defender is part of the native Windows security.

[KoreyCreative]

44 minutes ago, Lurick said:

So you want to disable something that's designed to help protect you why? It doesn't consume any amount of resources unless it's running a full scan which is usually over in a minute and not run by default anyway.

Hello,

I'm looking to disable Windows Defender in Windows 11 because the computer will be used as a digital audio workstation (DAW). I totally understand the common PC user's perspective of this kind of question, but it's an audio environment, I don't need Windows Defender.

I ran Windows 10 from release to 3 days ago without the fault of a virus and/ or malware, so I'm certain I can achieve the same in Windows 11. Just good computer habits I guess.

Programs I run daily are Pro Tools, Studio One 4/5, Native Instruments Kontakt, and a host of plugins like VEP pro, Fab Filter, Sound Toys, Cable guys to name a few.

I'm quite curious as to why you asked me a question, why also giving me an answer before ever hearing my personal reasons why and/ or how I may use Windows.

Understand, Windows is a personal operating system, no one uses it the same. in a working studio envoriment, it's common to disable services not needed to save issues later down the road.

When a project running 1200 tracks gets interrupted by a default service, it's best to just disable that service when working with deadlines.

27 minutes ago, whispous said:

Fully disabling Defender is not going to make your computer run drastically faster in the tasks you use it for. Having a decent, fully properly integrated antivirus will catch some things that aren't even "your fault."

 

Viruses/malware don't just come from "downloading pirated content" or looking at "weird porn". They come from normally legitimate but compromised websites, sometimes using exploits that are not yet patched in browsers/other software.

Software makers painfully regularly inadvertantly get their CDNs compromised.

 

It's not 2005 anymore. Defender is part of the native Windows security.

You seem to know exactly how I'll be using Windows 11, you should sign-up to be a criminal detective.

Sorry, I'm super sarcastic today, Dealing with Microsoft forums is painful.

37 minutes ago, Zando_ said:

^^^ seen essentially no performance impact from Defender ever, across probably 15+ configurations of hardware at this point for just my personal stuff (we use Sophos at work, which similarly sips resources unless it’s actively running a scan, and that takes 5 minutes at most). 

Have you ever used Windows as a studio environment by chance?

[manikyath]

dont bother. the performance difference is neglible, you can set whatever MS calls 'do not disturb' these days on to block any notifications from making sounds, you can disable any notifications you dont want, and completely culling something integrated so deeply into windows may actually be a source for more problems.

do i disagree with the fact defender cant be disabled? yes, absolutely. but that doesnt mean trying to do anyways is anywhere near a good idea.

 

and since you appear to be batting away any suggestions from anyone not in the music industry.. well i've got zero experience in the music industry, but i've got plenty in medical.

[KoreyCreative]

2 minutes ago, manikyath said:

dont bother. the performance difference is neglible, you can set whatever MS calls 'do not disturb' these days on to block any notifications from making sounds, you can disable any notifications you dont want, and completely culling something integrated so deeply into windows may actually be a source for more problems.

do i disagree with the fact defender cant be disabled? yes, absolutely. but that doesnt mean trying to do anyways is anywhere near a good idea.

 

and since you appear to be batting away any suggestions from anyone not in the music industry.. well i've got zero experience in the music industry, but i've got plenty in medical.

If you don't know from personal experience what it's like working with music in a Windows environment, then I'm sorry, I can't use your suggestions as their personal bias. I run my own business, and to make that business work without errors I first have to set up Windows in such a way that creates a solid platform so everything else runs at optimal levels.

It's like a snowball effect. Something not dealt with at the source can grow out of control. I can't run the risk of just ignoring it, as later down the road means wasting time fixing it, and if under a deadline, that's something I can't do.

Windows Defender is not a welcome program for audio production computers, it's very common to disable it. You want as many resources as possible, no matter how small to be available.

[whispous]

2 minutes ago, Popa2caps said:

If you don't know from personal experience what it's like working with music in a Windows environment, then I'm sorry, I can't use your suggestions as their personal bias. I run my own business, and to make that business work without errors I first have to set up Windows in such a way that creates a solid platform so everything else runs at optimal levels.

It's like a snowball effect. Something not dealt with at the source can grow out of control. I can't run the risk of just ignoring it, as later down the road means wasting time fixing it, and if under a deadline, that's something I can't do.

Windows Defender is not a welcome program for audio production computers, it's very common to disable it. You want as many resources as possible, no matter how small to be available.

I'm sorry but I don't think you are correct.

[KoreyCreative]

1 minute ago, whispous said:

I'm sorry but I don't think you are correct.

About what topic?

[whispous]

Just now, Popa2caps said:

About what topic?

You've come here to ask for how to disable something that is a core part of the OS rather than a seperate module that can be "simply" stopped.

Everyone has expressed that it won't help you to a noticable degree even if it was possible.

 

Can we know your computer specification?

[Zando_]

30 minutes ago, Popa2caps said:

Have you ever used Windows as a studio environment by chance?

I have not, to be fair. Closest I've gotten is video editing and that was on an entirely different platform (macOS). If you need rock solid stability though, not sure why you'd go for W11 given I've seen it having a lot of teething issues. 

[KoreyCreative]

10 minutes ago, whispous said:

You've come here to ask for how to disable something that is a core part of the OS rather than a seperate module that can be "simply" stopped.

Everyone has expressed that it won't help you to a noticable degree even if it was possible.

 

Can we know your computer specification?

You're more or less just trying to take over my discussion with your own self biased opinion/, meanwhile not having any direct knowledge of how the software will be used. You're mistaken and I kindly ask that you refrain from posting in this chat as I don't require your assistance.

It's one of the most common things to disable all of the security features in a music production studio. Most music production computers don't even run online, like honestly just leave this alone.

[KoreyCreative]

1 minute ago, Zando_ said:

I have not, to be fair. Closest I've gotten is video editing and that was on an entirely different platform (macOS). If you need rock solid stability though, not sure why you'd go for W11 given I've seen it having a lot of teething issues. 

Hello,

Far-enough. Truth be told. I downloaded it because I was having an issue with Fab Filters Pro Q3 (linear phase - high) in Studio One 5.5.2  and was just checking if it was a Windows thing. When I re-installed Windows 10, the issue was still there, so I installed WIndows 11, but again the issue is still there.

The real honest thing is Windows 11 seems to be running faster, and I'm not sure why. I've already removed all the Xbox apps and/ or other apps pre-installed, but I'm just trying to get Windows Defender to stop scanning all the time.

it seems to run while in a project even though I have the setting disabled. I also thought that was super odd being I have all the settings turned off. I even checked SFC / Scannow with no issues.

True, Windows Defender helps the casual user, but I'm far from that. I might revert back to Windows 10, but I do kind of enjoy Windows 11 for running all my apps quickly.

I thought about getting a Mac, but naa. Over-priced boxes, when I can get the same stability in Windows or more after some tweaks. Once I set up once and I just create an image for back-up and good to go if issues down road.

Like, I ran a Windows 10 Pro session with VEP Pro for 4 days without issue while never turning off with 1200+ tracks and/ or instruments. Just rock solid. I'm sure I can get the same in Windows 11.

[Electronics Wizardy]

You can't really do this with the gui or any microsoft tools, but there are some third party programs like the one used here. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=windows10-w10priv-wsl&num=1

 

Still probably not reccomended, and you don't really know whats its doing and what this will break.

 

I think defender(or any antivirus) can check all the disk io in windows, and that can hurt performance a good amount in some uses.

[KoreyCreative]

59 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

You can't really do this with the gui or any microsoft tools, but there are some third party programs like the one used here. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=windows10-w10priv-wsl&num=1

 

Still probably not reccomended, and you don't really know whats its doing and what this will break.

 

I think defender(or any antivirus) can check all the disk io in windows, and that can hurt performance a good amount in some uses.

hello, yeah I've been watching this one video where it shows promise. It was the only one where it has extra steps that I haven't tried. I did get Windows Defender to briefly disable, but it re-enables itself after about 5 mins or so.

This has been quite extensive to say the lease just to disable Windows Defender lol

LINKHow to disable Windows Defender in Windows 11

 

I'm not a fan of using third party software just to disable something, as it could very well create the same issues I'm trying to avoid lol

I thank you for at least trying to provide some help, it seems more people are willing to share their own opinions on the subject rather than directly give assistance these days. Everyone is uptight or something haha

I'll keep digging around to try and get this issue solved. It's true it's not causing me serious issues (currently), but I really don't require this software to run. I have a 2TB sample folder that it would just scan for days and could cause issues in the long term. Could even ruin my drives, I don't know lol

The last thing I want to deal with is software related issues, and defenders popping up for a false positive would really ruin a creative day.

[tikker]

2 hours ago, Popa2caps said:

thank you for at least trying to provide some help, it seems more people are willing to share their own opinions on the subject rather than directly give assistance these days. Everyone is uptight or something haha

  I don't see any uptightness in this thread. You start off calling everyone unhelpful jokers, so... Anyway, if you ask a question on a public forum you're going to get opinions. There's good reason from a Microsoft/Windows perspective to not allow people to easily disable Defender as that's basically leaving your door wide open. It makes sense for people to say that and to probe further as to why you want to do it.

 

From what you've mentioned so far I feel there is one important question unanswered: do you actually have a problem due to Defender when working on your projects under Win11? Is it now stopping you from doing your 1200 track projects? Most of what's been said feels a little hypothetical.

2 hours ago, Popa2caps said:

I'll keep digging around to try and get this issue solved. It's true it's not causing me serious issues (currently), but I really don't require this software to run. I have a 2TB sample folder that it would just scan for days and could cause issues in the long term. Could even ruin my drives, I don't know lol

It also could not cause issues. I guess this answers the previous question. This feels a lot like an XY problem. Your issue here is not "it won't let me disable Defender". It seems what you're actually after is to stop it from e.g. scanning that folder (and stop the associated performance hit I guess?). Defender can use quite a bit of CPU while scanning (it goes up to ~15% on my 7700k when doing that) and may slow down reading from the drive, so I can understand not wanting that. When not scanning, it may as well not exist resource wise though.

 

Have you tried adding all the relevant folders (add the entire drive if you want), file types, executables and processes to its exclusion list? I didn't see that mentioned yet, and for me Defender has always respected the things I add to the exclusion list and never scans or complains about those (I can say that for sure as they are miners which it happily triggers on otherwise).

2 hours ago, Popa2caps said:

The last thing I want to deal with is software related issues, and defenders popping up for a false positive would really ruin a creative day.

Why would Defender flag a music project as a false-positive virus? Do music projects have suspicious activity? You've switched to a brand new, half year old OS and you say it's not causing you (serious) issues. I'd say that's all the more reason to keep status quo and see how it rolls. Even if you manage to disable Defender completely, you'll have no good idea whether it did anything to begin with if you don't see issues, because you have no baseline to compare to, and if you do run into problems, you don't know if it's because you (forcefully) disabled/removed something quite tightly integrated with the OS or because of something else. You can't solve potential problems that haven't shown up yet.

[manikyath]

5 hours ago, Popa2caps said:

If you don't know from personal experience what it's like working with music in a Windows environment, then I'm sorry, I can't use your suggestions as their personal bias. I run my own business, and to make that business work without errors I first have to set up Windows in such a way that creates a solid platform so everything else runs at optimal levels.

It's like a snowball effect. Something not dealt with at the source can grow out of control. I can't run the risk of just ignoring it, as later down the road means wasting time fixing it, and if under a deadline, that's something I can't do.

Windows Defender is not a welcome program for audio production computers, it's very common to disable it. You want as many resources as possible, no matter how small to be available.

the thing is... everything you're saying, are reasons *not* to mess with defender.

 

if you're so absolutely obsessed by not having defender there, you should just not have windows 10/11 (desktop versions). i'm sorry to bust your bubble, but you're gonna break so much other shit trying to skin defender, that you're actually just creating a problem in the long run. your solution is to learn to deal with defender, use some sort of embedded or server flavour that doesnt have defender, or run either linux or mac (but on the mac side, you can be assured there's something similar to defender running too).

 

there's airgapped systems in the medical space where defender is sitting just fine, with critical medical equipment that literally cant have a second of unexpected downtime. if they can deal with and you cant, that's a you problem. i know the audio space is SUPER stuck-up about the whole antivirus thing, but i've yet to see any decent reason why. it appears to be based on a time when AV actually had a performance impact, but these days then you should also remove literally half of windows features 'because having a taskbar takes up resources'...

 

if you want to know why this is such a horrid idea, ask the people who tried disabling IE/edge and see how long that lasted before they hit some unexpected brick wall and had downtime over their stuck-up beliefs. you can make defender not do scans, you can make defender not give popups, you can make defender whitelist literally your entire C:\ drive, i dont understand what your problem is.

 

and no, i dont have "personal experience" in the musical industry.. i do have plenty of experiences in just about every sector that *needs* their computers to work, and cannot afford unexpected problems. just so happens the music industry appears to be the only industry where the mere existance of the defender process is a problem.

i have to assume since you're so stuck up about defender you've also disabled the desktop wallpaper, culled windows update, disabled unnecessary device drivers, disabled windows search, culled OneDrive, and disabled the print spooler?

 

sorry man, you came to a forum. on a forum people tend to tell you what you 'need' to hear, not what you 'want' to hear.

if you only want advice from music industry folks, perhaps ask your fellow colleague-competitors?

[Vishera]

3 minutes ago, Caroline said:

, in order to delete Defender you have to "go back in time" to prevent it from being installed

In Windows Server i can simply disable it through group policy or the registry,

I think that the same thing can be done with Windows 11 Enterprise as well.

[KoreyCreative]

On 5/10/2022 at 6:46 PM, tikker said:

  I don't see any uptightness in this thread. You start off calling everyone unhelpful jokers, so... Anyway, if you ask a question on a public forum you're going to get opinions. There's good reason from a Microsoft/Windows perspective to not allow people to easily disable Defender as that's basically leaving your door wide open. It makes sense for people to say that and to probe further as to why you want to do it.

 

From what you've mentioned so far I feel there is one important question unanswered: do you actually have a problem due to Defender when working on your projects under Win11? Is it now stopping you from doing your 1200 track projects? Most of what's been said feels a little hypothetical.

It also could not cause issues. I guess this answers the previous question. This feels a lot like an XY problem. Your issue here is not "it won't let me disable Defender". It seems what you're actually after is to stop it from e.g. scanning that folder (and stop the associated performance hit I guess?). Defender can use quite a bit of CPU while scanning (it goes up to ~15% on my 7700k when doing that) and may slow down reading from the drive, so I can understand not wanting that. When not scanning, it may as well not exist resource wise though.

 

Have you tried adding all the relevant folders (add the entire drive if you want), file types, executables and processes to its exclusion list? I didn't see that mentioned yet, and for me Defender has always respected the things I add to the exclusion list and never scans or complains about those (I can say that for sure as they are miners which it happily triggers on otherwise).

Why would Defender flag a music project as a false-positive virus? Do music projects have suspicious activity? You've switched to a brand new, half year old OS and you say it's not causing you (serious) issues. I'd say that's all the more reason to keep status quo and see how it rolls. Even if you manage to disable Defender completely, you'll have no good idea whether it did anything to begin with if you don't see issues, because you have no baseline to compare to, and if you do run into problems, you don't know if it's because you (forcefully) disabled/removed something quite tightly integrated with the OS or because of something else. You can't solve potential problems that haven't shown up yet.

 

Hello,

I think you're mistaken. I'm the original poster to this, and all I asked was, "I've been at this for sometime now, and I can't seem to get anything disabled. I run my computer mostly for making music, and some games, I don't need an antivirus software running all the time.".

An honest, non-biased reply would have taken into account that I stated, "  mostly for making music". By that one sentence, the person replying should have some general knowledge of what that actually means.

When working in a studio envoriment, one has to min and max their computer systems on a grand scale for performance over multiple computers and it takes one time to configure it, then you just copy each system with a disk image using the same hardware for each.

Sure, I could have been more specific towards the studio environment, but no one needs to know why I'm doing something, I'm just asking for help for a specific problem. I'm not here asking for opinions.

True, I'll receive them in a public forum, but boy am I going to respond in a heavily sarcastic manner. Two things I'm very good at, being as unbiased as a person can, and being able to respond in a very well written manner.

See, that's where I posted after all, "Linus Tech Tips", not "Linus Scrutinize Your Opinions Tips". I'm not here to judge others how they use their computer, nor should I.
 

After I posted my topic, I was met with 3 replies, all wish don't offer any help and/ or guidence, but just give self bias and/ or direct opinions on the subject, meanwhile marking the post as "Funny" and giving each other upvotes like they just won a prize (check, my post was marked by them as "Funny").

If anyone calls this a so-called "Tech" forum, they are mistakenly incorrect. This has to be one of the most unprofessional forums second to the Microsoft volunteer program.

I am not here to care who likes and/ or dislikes the way I choose to use my computer, I'm just asking for actual troubleshooting. I also then had to waste even more time by posting replies back to first nonsensical comments.

I did contact Microsoft through Twitter @MicrososftHelp and they set me up with an agent. We talked for about an hour or so running different situations on how to disable the program, but the agent did state that there's a good chance that the group policy isn't working because the operating system is still in beta.

So some functions that should work, might not, so to say.

In the end, I found a video that turned off Windows Defender for about 5 minutes, but it returned. So It's my guess that the Security app found in my Microsoft applications runs an update  service to restore the function of all security features if not present.

I'll be mixing everything today, so I can't test if removing the program fixes anything, but here is to luck.

Also, you're too pushy. You don't need to know why I'm doing anything. If you have serious tips and/ or commands to run, I'll try, but I'm not going to play your game of internet troll.

Good day.

 

On 5/10/2022 at 7:48 PM, Vishera said:

In Windows Server i can simply disable it through group policy or the registry,

I think that the same thing can be done with Windows 11 Enterprise as well.

Hello,

I currently only have Windows 11 Professional, not sure the difference with Windows Enterprise myself. Yeah, I've tried the group policy in Windows 11 Professional, but it restarts after a restart of the machine.

The closest I've been was doing the regitary edits, but there were like 3 steps, where most videos only had one step. Plus, I had to take ownership of some files, just to apply the registry settings, very odd.

Thanks for sharing without asking why. Most can't see to do that in today's age.

 

On 5/10/2022 at 7:07 PM, manikyath said:

the thing is... everything you're saying, are reasons *not* to mess with defender.

 

if you're so absolutely obsessed by not having defender there, you should just not have windows 10/11 (desktop versions). i'm sorry to bust your bubble, but you're gonna break so much other shit trying to skin defender, that you're actually just creating a problem in the long run. your solution is to learn to deal with defender, use some sort of embedded or server flavour that doesnt have defender, or run either linux or mac (but on the mac side, you can be assured there's something similar to defender running too).

 

there's airgapped systems in the medical space where defender is sitting just fine, with critical medical equipment that literally cant have a second of unexpected downtime. if they can deal with and you cant, that's a you problem. i know the audio space is SUPER stuck-up about the whole antivirus thing, but i've yet to see any decent reason why. it appears to be based on a time when AV actually had a performance impact, but these days then you should also remove literally half of windows features 'because having a taskbar takes up resources'...

 

if you want to know why this is such a horrid idea, ask the people who tried disabling IE/edge and see how long that lasted before they hit some unexpected brick wall and had downtime over their stuck-up beliefs. you can make defender not do scans, you can make defender not give popups, you can make defender whitelist literally your entire C:\ drive, i dont understand what your problem is.

 

and no, i dont have "personal experience" in the musical industry.. i do have plenty of experiences in just about every sector that *needs* their computers to work, and cannot afford unexpected problems. just so happens the music industry appears to be the only industry where the mere existance of the defender process is a problem.

i have to assume since you're so stuck up about defender you've also disabled the desktop wallpaper, culled windows update, disabled unnecessary device drivers, disabled windows search, culled OneDrive, and disabled the print spooler?

 

sorry man, you came to a forum. on a forum people tend to tell you what you 'need' to hear, not what you 'want' to hear.

if you only want advice from music industry folks, perhaps ask your fellow colleague-competitors?

Hello,

I kindly ask you to leave this post if you're going to offer no support. I say that as you're not offering help, but just continuing to leave me in a place to reply to nonsensical comments and/ or opinions. You're baiting into an argument, when this isn't the place.

This is however a place for technical support (I thought). If you want to speak about opinions about subjects, be free to do that in the correct sections, but I would like it if you kept the discussion on topic, so if others might search the same thing, they get to the answer quickly.

I'll ask you again, please refrain from posting if you have no technical knowledge on the topic at hand.

 

On 5/10/2022 at 7:40 PM, Caroline said:

You know the grandfather paradox? right, you go back in time and kill your grandfather, thus it'd -theoretically- create a divergent curve in the timeline from this point forward, where you'll never be born therefore never be able to go back in time, and the other -original- timeline would get "stuck" in a loop where this event would endlessly repeat.

 

Now, what the fuck does this has to do with Windows Defender you might be thinking... well, everything, in order to delete Defender you have to "go back in time" to prevent it from being installed, in simple (or rather complex) terms you have to mod the OS installation files so that Defender is never installed to the hard drive, it's the only way, other methods as using gpedit or deleting registry keys won't work because ironically even with Admin privileges you're not allowed to touch certain parts of the OS, even under safe mode.

So... you need a homebrew install, a custom ISO with no defender at all, I'd use the LTSC version for this purpose as it'll save you a lot of time by not installing any other additional crap, you get to edit the files with something like the msmg toolkit then deploy it over PXE or by burning the image to a disc or removable storage. There's NTlite for the n00bs but I'm not sure it'll let you disable security "features", and you have to pay for it.

 

Beyond this point I'm not sure if the mods will allow me to say anything more because custom ISOs are basically piracy with extra steps, plus giving specific information on how to disable or bypass security stuff is usually forbidden in surface forums like this one, for example in I think it was Tom's Hardware you're not allowed to help users asking to remove antiviruses that are behind a password, or how to recover your user account if you forgot the password say in an old laptop, I get it though, because the info "could" and "might" be used to brick other people's computers as a prank or with malicious intent, or to unlock a stolen laptop or whatever.

Hello,

I'm not solely discussing this topic here, but also Windows, Twitter, Linus tech Tips and/ or YouTube.

Also, I'm not trying to delete anything, just disable it. So far the best video on the subject of disabling Windows Defender in Windows 11 seems to be LINK.
 

Also, I wouldn't ever install using ISOs of unknown origin. I have thousands invested in software alone, more into samples and/ or programs. I use trusted software only I'm afraid.
 

I've seen and/ or heard of music studios installing stripped down versions of operating systems back in the day like black viper if I recall, but I really don't mind doing it myself.
 

I just do everything once, create a system backup image and good to go. I do disable services in Windows and have been for almost 15 years without issues. I'll find a way to disable this servicer just like every other one that I don't need, and be on my merry way.
 

Remember, it's software, not a rule book. Everything can be modified.

[Vishera]

4 hours ago, Popa2caps said:

Hello,

I currently only have Windows 11 Professional, not sure the difference with Windows Enterprise myself. Yeah, I've tried the group policy in Windows 11 Professional, but it restarts after a restart of the machine.

The closest I've been was doing the regitary edits, but there were like 3 steps, where most videos only had one step. Plus, I had to take ownership of some files, just to apply the registry settings, very odd.

Thanks for sharing without asking why. Most can't see to do that in today's age.

Try this:

 

In Windows Server you can also just uninstall it through Server Manager:

 

4 hours ago, Popa2caps said:

Thanks for sharing without asking why. Most can't see to do that in today's age.

Your property your rules.

I believe that people should be able to do whatever they want with their personal property without anyone telling them what to do with it no matter the reason.

[KoreyCreative]

59 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Try this:

 

In Windows Server you can also just uninstall it through Server Manager:

 

Your property your rules.

I believe that people should be able to do whatever they want with their personal property without anyone telling them what to do with it no matter the reason.

Hello,

Sweet, thanks for this video! I'm watching it now and trying the steps to see if it gets it disabled.

I'm honestly still quite shocked at the outcome over the general opinions on the subject. It seems a lot of people are paranoid about getting viruses or something.

I've always thought that with a good ad-blocker and computer habits, one doesn't get those issues, but again, just my opinion.

I'm with you on your statement as I try to be (as much as possible) unbiased as I can. Sure I make mistakes, but a PC stands for personal computer for a reason, personal is the first word, most forget that. No one has the right to tell me how it's used, and/ or why.

Following the norm is a good way to lose freedom. Just because the majority do something, doesn't mean I need to do it. I try to think for myself, and let others do the same, but it seems people don't like other opinions that hurt their own narrative and/ or opinion and get bent out of shape.

Again, thanks for the comment. It's welcomed to see another individual that doesn't pass judgement based on personal opinions.

[Vishera]

51 minutes ago, Popa2caps said:

I'm honestly still quite shocked at the outcome over the general opinions on the subject. It seems a lot of people are paranoid about getting viruses or something.

It's not really about viruses nor paranoia - Seems like people forget that different people have different opinions and different opinions should be respected whether you like them or not.

If you think that you don't need Windows Defender people should respect that instead of trying to force their opinions upon you.

51 minutes ago, Popa2caps said:

I've always thought that with a good ad-blocker and computer habits, one doesn't get those issues, but again, just my opinion.

As long as you stick to that you should be fine,

Though there are risks (and you know the risks) but you are old enough to make decisions,live with them and take full responsibility for any outcome that may result from this.

[KoreyCreative]

40 minutes ago, Vishera said:

It's not really about viruses nor paranoia - Seems like people forget that different people have different opinions and different opinions should be respected whether you like them or not.

If you think that you don't need Windows Defender people should respect that instead of trying to force their opinions upon you.

As long as you stick to that you should be fine,

Though there are risks (and you know the risks) but you are old enough to make decisions,live with them and take full responsibility for any outcome that may result from this.

True that! Well said.

[tikker]

11 hours ago, Popa2caps said:

Sure, I could have been more specific towards the studio environment, but no one needs to know why I'm doing something, I'm just asking for help for a specific problem. I'm not here asking for opinions.

 For a proper answer people do need to know what you are doing and why. Especially when it's something dangerous like disabling an anti-virus, because that's a terrible idea if you were a complete digital illiterate who just got told that, and still a bad idea otherwise. The question you asked is not how to solve a problem, that's the core of the XY question issue. You are asking how to do what you think the solution to a hypothetical issue is, but you haven't reported any actual issue besides Defender scanning your files, for which there are much less nuclear options.

11 hours ago, Popa2caps said:

True, I'll receive them in a public forum, but boy am I going to respond in a heavily sarcastic manner. Two things I'm very good at, being as unbiased as a person can, and being able to respond in a very well written manner.

Your point of view so far is "I don't think I need this, so it must go at any cost". You are not unbiased at all. None of us are truly.

11 hours ago, Popa2caps said:

After I posted my topic, I was met with 3 replies, all wish don't offer any help and/ or guidence, but just give self bias and/ or direct opinions on the subject, meanwhile marking the post as "Funny" and giving each other upvotes like they just won a prize (check, my post was marked by them as "Funny").

Someone showed a tool that supposedly does it and I told you how I stop it from excluding files and programs from its scans (which is the only real problem you've encountered so far from what you've told us.

11 hours ago, Popa2caps said:

If anyone calls this a so-called "Tech" forum, they are mistakenly incorrect. This has to be one of the most unprofessional forums second to the Microsoft volunteer program.

Tech is extremely broad. This forum is literally just a community of people enjoying LTT. It has little to nothing to do with LTT itself and while there plenty of experienced people here, some actual professionals with jobs in those areas, most of us are just people like you or me with a strong interest in tech (which doesn't mean unknowledgeable).

11 hours ago, Popa2caps said:

Also, you're too pushy. You don't need to know why I'm doing anything. If you have serious tips and/ or commands to run, I'll try, but I'm not going to play your game of internet troll.

I asked if there was an actual problem that you think removing defender will solve, which you haven't indicated and given my suggestion to stop it from scanning your files and software, which is the only problem you've explicitely mentioned experiencing so far. If you want to dismiss that fine, but that is not being pushy.

11 hours ago, Popa2caps said:

'll be mixing everything today, so I can't test if removing the program fixes anything, but here is to luck.

I hope the mixing goes well. The point that people are trying to get across is that if this mixing goes fine then there is no evidence that Defender is causing problems (ignoring the scanning of files, for which a solution to try is mentioned above) and you'll be chasing pavements trying to remove it, potentially creating a more unstable system and making future problems harder to track down. In any case, I've added my 2 cents and will leave it here. It's a consumer OS in the end, so you'll be dealing with consumer-oriented features. There's always the option to get the industry/professional/business-oriented versions of it or something else more suitable for your field.

 

6 hours ago, Popa2caps said:

I've always thought that with a good ad-blocker and computer habits, one doesn't get those issues, but again, just my opinion.

It's just like health or home insurance. You'll most likely get by without ever really having to use it, but when you do you'll be glad you took it. All it takes is that one exploit your adblocker doesn't block, your music production software accidentally distributing an infected version, a trusted server being compromised all without your knowing and irrespective of how good your computer habits are. The only computer that would truly not need an antivirus is one that is airgapped and never interacts with the outside world in anyway ever.

[leadeater]

What was your running build of Windows 10, FYI on current builds you also cannot disable Defender at all. Microsoft made it impossible to do so in Windows 10 and that has carried over to Windows 11. The only way to achieve disabling Defender in Windows 10 is to be running an older build without this enforcement implemented.

 

There is simply no way to do it, that is the point and by design from Microsoft. The only possible way to achieve it is to modify the install wim image and outright break it but I have no idea what that will do to the system overall, not a good idea.

 

Simply turn off Real Time Protection, add folder exclusion C:\* and be done with it, that's the best you're going to get. That is about as disabled as you can get.