Pathetic Laptop Battery

[Beep or Boop]

So, this is my first time owning a laptop for myself. I don't know if this is a universal laptop problem but I don't think it is. I see company's boasting high numbers for gaming laptops. But when I get mine, I go from 100% to 50% in 30 minutes of playing Runescape. Even though I know Runescape is triple A title game and it's very intensive, it just seems a little weird. Also this is the link to the laptop, someone pointed out to me that was a little weird, that the posting says it's for a GF75, while the specs seem closer to a GF63 thin. And when I flip over my laptop I see the product/SN sticker and it says its a GF75. So I guess my question is, should I look for another laptop and send this one in? Just feels wrong that the battery is going down 10% in a few minutes as i'm typing this, and the screen brightness is low and windows battery saver is on. Any help/suggestions would be amazing guys.

[Pixelfie]

Download BatteyInfoView and share a screenshot

 

As for the model, right click start menu, click on system and see if it says the model there

 

Also how old is it?

[Levent]

You got a high-refresh rate, high power consumption dedicated graphics card on a gaming laptop with just 51wh of battery. Battery is obviously not going to last when you play games on it. Download hwmonitor and check battery wear, if its abnormally high (more than %15 wear per year on heavily used machine is not uncommon)

[Beep or Boop]

17 minutes ago, Pixelfie said:

Download BatteyInfoView and share a screenshot

 

As for the model, right click start menu, click on system and see if it says the model there

 

Also how old is it?

I just purchased and received it 2 days ago. It’s been used and gamed on for less then an hour. It’s dead right now and I’m at work. I will get a screenshot for you when I get home

[Beep or Boop]

17 minutes ago, Levent said:

You got a high-refresh rate, high power consumption dedicated graphics card on a gaming laptop with just 51wh of battery. Battery is obviously not going to last when you play games on it. Download hwmonitor and check battery wear, if its abnormally high (more than %15 wear per year on heavily used machine is not uncommon)

Am I wrong in thinking that this is abnormal for a brand new laptop?

[Anghammarad]

When you "stress" a gaming laptop with gaming, the battery won't last long. 

 

This has always been a thing with laptops. Using then for "office" and internet they last several hours. But when you stress CPU and GPU the battery drains fairly fast. 

 

Like a smartphone. Just using it for some social media, calling people, it lasts through the day, using it for games, 2 hours and dead.

[Beep or Boop]

Just now, Anghammarad said:

When you "stress" a gaming laptop with gaming, the battery won't last long. 

 

This has always been a thing with laptops. Using then for "office" and internet they last several hours. But when you stress CPU and GPU the battery drains fairly fast. 

 

Like a smartphone. Just using it for some social media, calling people, it lasts through the day, using it for games, 2 hours and dead.

Oh for sure. Just seemed a little insane that it lasted as long as it did only running RuneScape. Not even discord. 

[Anghammarad]

1 minute ago, Beep or Boop said:

Oh for sure. Just seemed a little insane that it lasted as long as it did only running RuneScape. Not even discord. 

A example. I myself habe a now 5 year old Acer Aspire 5. I did a review for that thingie here on the forums with battry time using only "office 2d mode" with cpu gfx and it lastet nearly 7 hours. 

 

But when I ran WoW, Witcher III on it, 10% of the battery were gone in a few minutes. 

 

Now after 5 years with desktop work the battery lasts about 5 hours. When using the MX150 while gaming or converting videos with NVENC codecs it lasts max an hour before howling for its battery.

 

Laptop Builders don't use gaming load when teliing you how long the battery lasts. The use light office work, some even just idle desktop power on time.

 

[Beep or Boop]

Just now, Anghammarad said:

A example. I myself habe a now 5 year old Acer Aspire 5. I did a review for that thingie here on the forums with battry time using only "office 2d mode" with cpu gfx and it lastet nearly 7 hours. 

 

But when I ran WoW, Witcher III on it, 10% of the battery were gone in a few minutes. 

 

Now after 5 years with desktop work the battery lasts about 5 hours. When using the MX150 while gaming or converting videos with NVENC codecs it lasts max an hour before howling for its battery.

 

Laptop Builders don't use gaming load when teliing you how long the battery lasts. The use light office work, some even just idle desktop power on time.

 

I see. So nothing is wrong. It’s just how laptops are. 

[jaslion]

44 minutes ago, Beep or Boop said:

I see. So nothing is wrong. It’s just how laptops are. 

I mean the laptops you stated have really really tiny batteries compared to a lot of in that price range better alternatives.

 

I mean my legion 5 can get a couple hours running minecraft and whatnot.

[Beep or Boop]

Just now, jaslion said:

I mean the laptops you stated have really really tiny batteries compared to a lot of in that price range better alternatives.

 

I mean my legion 5 can get a couple hours running minecraft and whatnot.

Do you mind linking some laptops that have better battery life?

[Chronified]

Laptop is high refresh, lock it down to 60hz and you'll notice battery life improve greatly. My Asus Dash F15 with 120hz+3070 @ 85w suffers from this problem too. 

[Beep or Boop]

Just now, Chronified said:

Laptop is high refresh, lock it down to 60hz and you'll notice battery life improve greatly. My Asus Dash F15 with 120hz+3070 @ 85w suffers from this problem too. 

Oh really? Ok. I’ll try that tomorrow night. Thanks! Hopefully won’t be a problem since I’ll actually bring my charger so it doesn’t die. 

[jaslion]

Just now, Beep or Boop said:

Do you mind linking some laptops that have better battery life?

Well it depends on the budget as that msi from what I know costs about 100$ and has multiple other problems (temps issues, low quality chassis and the mentioned poor battery life).

 

For that budget you can actually find a 5600h 1660 80wh legion 5. Watch out for that as there are 60wh and 80wh version of that laptop.

[Chronified]

1 minute ago, Beep or Boop said:

Oh really? Ok. I’ll try that tomorrow night. Thanks! Hopefully won’t be a problem since I’ll actually bring my charger so it doesn’t die. 

Even watching Youtube the battery is pretty pathetic @ 1.5hr, I need to completely disable the 3070 outright to get anywhere near the promised battery life on just video playback

[Beep or Boop]

Just now, Chronified said:

Even watching Youtube the battery is pretty pathetic @ 1.5hr, I need to completely disable the 3070 outright to get anywhere near the promised battery life on just video playback

Lmfao I’ve used laptops before but never gaming ones. It’s crazy how little the battery life is when gaming. Even if it’s a game that hardly takes a chunk of the resources. 

[Beep or Boop]

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

Well it depends on the budget as that msi from what I know costs about 100$ and has multiple other problems (temps issues, low quality chassis and the mentioned poor battery life).

 

For that budget you can actually find a 5600h 1660 80wh legion 5. Watch out for that as there are 60wh and 80wh version of that laptop.

I wouldn’t mind spending 100$ if needed. Legion 5 is what I’m looking for? Any specific iteration of that?

[Chronified]

9 minutes ago, Beep or Boop said:

Lmfao I’ve used laptops before but never gaming ones. It’s crazy how little the battery life is when gaming. Even if it’s a game that hardly takes a chunk of the resources. 

Honestly, as gross as they are, I keep a Thinkpad 11e Chromebook in my backpack along with my gaming laptop.

They're so small+lightweight, taking less than my gaming laptops charger. It lasts 8-10hr watching youtube/netflix at full brightness and is a great way to keep that laptop battery fuller for longer. It lasts long enough that I can put on LowFi Hiphop Radio at the beginning of my shift and it's still at 15-30% 8hr later when I go home. 

[Beep or Boop]

Just now, Chronified said:

Honestly, as gross as they are, I keep a Thinkpad 11e Chromebook in my backpack long with my gaming laptop.

It lasts 8-10hr watching youtube/netflix at full brightness and is a great way to keep that laptop battery fuller for longer. It lasts long enough that I can put on LowFi Hiphop Radio at the beginning of my shift and it's still at 15-30% 8hr later when I go home. 

I wanna use my laptop for very light gaming. And then studying for the majority of the time. Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t chrome books very restrictive for what you can do on them? Gaming wise 

[Chronified]

Just now, Beep or Boop said:

I wanna use my laptop for very light gaming. And then studying for the majority of the time. Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t chrome books very restrictive for what you can do on them? Gaming wise 

They're not as bad as they used to be, now almost every Chromebook as full Google Play store stupport, meaning you can load them up with the Steam Home app and use game-streaming on them. I've only used it once or twice because I have my full laptop on me, but it'd be a good compromise if you've got decent internet where you need to be lol

[Beep or Boop]

1 minute ago, Chronified said:

They're not as bad as they used to be, now almost every Chromebook as full Google Play store stupport, meaning you can load them up with the Steam Home app and use game-streaming on them. I've only used it once or twice because I have my full laptop on me, but it'd be a good compromise if you've got decent internet where you need to be lol

What about RuneScape per say. Like a client you’d download off the internet to play through that.

[jaslion]

1 minute ago, Beep or Boop said:

I wanna use my laptop for very light gaming. And then studying for the majority of the time. Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t chrome books very restrictive for what you can do on them? Gaming wise 

What is very light gaming? Because currently you bought a gaming focused device that even when not gaming has poor battery life.

 

As for the legion the one I specified fits in a 1000$ budget. But for 1100 a 3050 or even if luck the 3060 can be got. But still it all depends on what you actually need because for all I know just a igpu laptop would be enough.

[Beep or Boop]

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

What is very light gaming? Because currently you bought a gaming focused device that even when not gaming has poor battery life.

 

As for the legion the one I specified fits in a 1000$ budget. But for 1100 a 3050 or even if luck the 3060 can be got. But still it all depends on what you actually need because for all I know just a igpu laptop would be enough.

As the game I’m currently into right now is RuneScape. So it’s not intensive at all. Maybe FF14, or any older single player games. 

[tikker]

Gaming on a gaming laptop and expecting long battery life are typically mutually exclusive since they have relatively power hungry components. You can estimate the expected runtime on a fully charged battery by looking up or checking the power usage of your components. You have:

• a 51 Wh battery according to MSI (https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GF75-Thin-10UX/Specification)
• a 1650 with a 50 W TDP (https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1650-Laptop-GPU.416044.0.html)
• an i5 10300H with a 45 W TDP (https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i5-10300H-SoC-Benchmarks-and-Specs.452191.0.html)

"Worst case" scenario if the CPU and GPU are going full speed and full power, like in a gaming scenario in which case that is usually desirable, they will use a combined 95 W, which results in an expected run time of 51 Wh / 95 W = 0.53 h or roughly 30 minutes. Your "less than an hour" of gaming is thus completely expected I would say. If you know you will be playing not very demanding game like Runescape and want slightly longer battery life I would consider power-limiting the GPU through e.g. Afterburner (AFAIK that's about all they let you do on mobile GPUs) or even limiting the CPU as well by disabling boosting if allowed.

[Beep or Boop]

Just now, tikker said:

Gaming on a gaming laptop and expecting long battery life are typically mutually exclusive since they have relatively power hungry components. You can estimate the expected runtime on a fully charged battery by looking up or checking the power usage of your components. You have:

• a 51 Wh battery according to MSI (https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GF75-Thin-10UX/Specification)
• a 1650 with a 50 W TDP (https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1650-Laptop-GPU.416044.0.html)
• an i5 10300H with a 45 W TDP (https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i5-10300H-SoC-Benchmarks-and-Specs.452191.0.html)

If the  CPU and GPU are goign full speed, like in a gamin scenario, they will use a combined 95 W, which results in an expected run time of 51 Wh / 95 W = 0.53 h or roughly 30 minutes. Your "less than an hour" of gaming is thus completely expected I would say. If you know you will be playing not very demanding game like Runescape and want slightly longer battery life I would consider power-limiting the GPU through e.g. Afterburner (AFAIK that's about all they let you do on mobile GPUs) or even limiting the CPU as well by disabling boosting if allowed.

 

Sounds good!! Thank you!