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I'd personally take a GN case over a LTT case. Mainly because I care about airflow and not RGB, which I have a suspicion LTT would lean towards, being "mainstream". 

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Am I crazy or has Linus answered this on WAN show before. The answer was probably no, there is no place in the market for us. 

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8 minutes ago, rickeo said:

Am I crazy or has Linus answered this on WAN show before. The answer was probably no, there is no place in the market for us. 

Essentially, yeah. I don't remember if he's explicitly referenced cases, but he has said on multiple occasions that they don't make products unless they feel there's something of value or some unique take they can add. There's not a whole lot of innovation to be had in the case market these days. You basically just do a mesh front with cable management trays and tie downs and a PSU shroud to hide the wires. There's more to it, than that, but the point is that stepping much outside the box just makes case performance and usability mostly worse.

 

The most interesting thing going on with cases is SFF, but even that is getting to the point of mostly cookie cutter.

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51 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

Essentially, yeah. I don't remember if he's explicitly referenced cases, but he has said on multiple occasions that they don't make products unless they feel there's something of value or some unique take they can add. There's not a whole lot of innovation to be had in the case market these days. You basically just do a mesh front with cable management trays and tie downs and a PSU shroud to hide the wires. There's more to it, than that, but the point is that stepping much outside the box just makes case performance and usability mostly worse.

 

The most interesting thing going on with cases is SFF, but even that is getting to the point of mostly cookie cutter.

I know he explicitly referenced that the reason for not releasing his personal case is because there's a lot of things where if he redesigned it now he would change it and that is why the custom case for racks that he uses isn't able to be downloaded or CNCed.

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No.

 

There is no good reason to think that there is some unfilled market niche an LTT case would be aimed at, or that an "LTT case" would be superior to other offerings already on the market. As someone already said, I'd trust Gamers Nexus' input on a case way above LTT's, and even that would probably just end up being a boring mesh box. Case design for modern PC parts is a "solved problem," everybody is working within the same parameters and making the same tradeoffs; there isn't going to be any revolution in case design until there's a revolution in the components that go inside.

 

Furthermore, even setting aside all of the above, the more LMG branches out into marketing their own products in the same spaces as the products they traditionally cover, the more there will be complaints about conflict of interest. Some people went berserk when Linus announced he had invested in Framework, despite his commitment to recusing himself from content of other laptops and LMG not really doing much real review content of laptops or anything else anyway. Imagine what the reaction would have been if they had announced a "Linus laptop" they were selling themselves rather than just Linus investing in a company. 

 

Also consider the possible lost sponsorships from case makers if those companies suddenly see LMG as a competitor rather than a partner; would the revenue from selling cases be enough to outweigh the loss?

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@Middcoreis correct, it wouldn't help LTT to make their own thing like a case.

 

But if they wanted something?  They could work with Fractal or someone else and get a "custom" LTT Torrent in ATX and ITX.  Or something like that, like they had with Noctua.

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Would be cool to have an LTT theme, if i could find one on the already Lian Li Dynamic XL i wouldnt have given a shit what the import or transport costs are, i would have just shipped it as fast as i could x'D

 

or multiple themes from some brand with a big case.. Gotta find another case with better cable managment in the back.

 

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On 2/9/2022 at 1:26 PM, TVwazhere said:

I'd personally take a GN case over a LTT case

I remember GN saying at some point that they didn't have the money, but bigger channels (ie LTT) does.

 

It would be interesting to see a colab between the two channels. GN designs/does RnD and LTT manufacturers it and pays the upfront cost.

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12 minutes ago, wall03 said:

It would be interesting to see a colab between the two channels. GN designs/does RnD and LTT manufacturers it and pays the upfront cost.

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23 hours ago, wall03 said:

I remember GN saying at some point that they didn't have the money, but bigger channels (ie LTT) does.

They do not; their primary focus is journalism and repeatable, scientific testing methodologies for reliable data and reporting. 

 

I'm just saying if there's any  Tech-tuber I'd be interested buying an actual PC Product from, it's Gamers Nexus and a PC Case. I mean, Hell the PC-O11D was like 80% reconfigured by Der8uer based on the original PC-O11, and Lian Li ran with it. If he gets even a small kick back on any of those purchases, he's making good money off that. 

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19 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

They do not; their primary focus is journalism and repeatable, scientific testing methodologies for reliable data and reporting. 

 

I'm just saying if there's any  Tech-tuber I'd be interested buying an actual PC Product from, it's Gamers Nexus and a PC Case. I mean, Hell the PC-O11D was like 80% reconfigured by Der8uer based on the original PC-O11, and Lian Li ran with it. If he gets even a small kick back on any of those purchases, he's making good money off that. 

The main problem GN talked about is that no case manufacturer wanted to give them enough freedom to really make the case they want. Additionally, they're essentially risking their name or credibility if anything goes wrong. They'd need to do some serious lawyer stuff to reassure that if their partner fucks up they don't pull GN into it. Plus people would have trouble trusting GN to make neutral reviews when they have their own case among the contenders.

 

It's the same with Linus and Framework:

Even though he was completely transparent about it, people still go on about him being a shill.

 

So for GN it's basically that they didn't find a partner they feld comfortable enough with. Plus it's a conflict of interest for their review process.

If someone did not use reason to reach their conclusion in the first place, you cannot use reason to convince them otherwise.

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