Posted February 6, 2022 So basically i want to build a pc Which is better in price to performance ratio? Intel or AMD Usage: Gaming, mild editing(photoshop,premiere pro), browsing speed,future proof Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 6, 2022 What's your budget? Annnnnnd also, what do you feel better? Anti-malware, for free. (not NavaShield of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 6, 2022 Depends on the overall target setup. For an APU build u'd go with AMD obviously. if u like burning money however and want to also buy a GPU right now then a Intel CPU based build would be a better option. The i3 12100F, the lowest end intel 12 series, is a little beast for the price. CPU: Intel i7 3930k w/OC & EK Supremacy EVO Block | Motherboard: Asus P9x79 Pro | RAM: G.Skill 4x4 1866 CL9 | PSU: Seasonic Platinum 1000w Corsair RM 750w Gold (2021)| VDU: Panasonic 42" Plasma | GPU: Gigabyte 1080ti Gaming OC & Barrow Block (RIP)...GTX 980ti | Sound: Asus Xonar D2X - Z5500 -FiiO X3K DAP/DAC - ATH-M50S | Case: Phantek Enthoo Primo White | Storage: Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SSD + WD Blue 1TB SSD | Cooling: XSPC D5 Photon 270 Res & Pump | 2x XSPC AX240 White Rads | NexXxos Monsta 80x240 Rad P/P | NF-A12x25 fans | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 6, 2022 Depends entirely on your budget. Because honestly either of them right now is a good choice performance wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 6, 2022 PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i3-12100F 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£107.49 @ Amazon UK) CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports CPU Cooler (£28.27 @ Overclockers.co.uk) Motherboard: ASRock B660M Pro RS Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£118.00 @ Computer Orbit) Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£114.35 @ Amazon UK) Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£69.34 @ CCL Computers) Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB VENTUS 2X Video Card (£375.00 @ Currys PC World) Case: Deepcool MATREXX 55 ATX Mid Tower Case (£36.52 @ Amazon UK) Power Supply: SeaSonic CORE GM 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£59.99 @ Amazon UK) Total: £908.96 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-06 14:07 GMT+0000 Above would imo be a good start for a 'budget' build with a GPU. Ofc, ur HIGHLY unlikely to find a 3060 for its proper price like in the above list, u would likely need to add another £200 on top at current prices. Meanwhile a AMD APU can be done for under £600. Ofc theres a significant performance difference for gaming. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£151.39 @ Novatech) Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£97.55 @ NeoComputers) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£169.81 @ Newegg UK) Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£69.34 @ CCL Computers) Case: Deepcool MATREXX 55 ATX Mid Tower Case (£36.52 @ Amazon UK) Power Supply: SeaSonic CORE GM 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£59.99 @ Amazon UK) Total: £584.60 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-06 14:18 GMT+0000 CPU: Intel i7 3930k w/OC & EK Supremacy EVO Block | Motherboard: Asus P9x79 Pro | RAM: G.Skill 4x4 1866 CL9 | PSU: Seasonic Platinum 1000w Corsair RM 750w Gold (2021)| VDU: Panasonic 42" Plasma | GPU: Gigabyte 1080ti Gaming OC & Barrow Block (RIP)...GTX 980ti | Sound: Asus Xonar D2X - Z5500 -FiiO X3K DAP/DAC - ATH-M50S | Case: Phantek Enthoo Primo White | Storage: Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SSD + WD Blue 1TB SSD | Cooling: XSPC D5 Photon 270 Res & Pump | 2x XSPC AX240 White Rads | NexXxos Monsta 80x240 Rad P/P | NF-A12x25 fans | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 6, 2022 Right now, Intel is a bit better, especially if the AMD-CPUs aren't on sale. The only case when I would go AMD right now would be for an APU (build without discrete GPU) or if all lga 1700 motherboards would be sold out (at your price point). Edit: Additional thoughts: An interesting option right now would also be, build an Intel 12th gen system and buy a extremely cheap CPU, with a good/expensive Z690 motherboard (only some expensive ones support this feature). Then you could base clock overclock it and upgrade fairly easy to 13th gen later this year. If I could help you, please mark my comment as "Solution"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 6, 2022 Its a bit of a wash right now that it depends on what you are looking for. It would have been 100% AMD before 12th gen Intel. AMD 7950x / Asus Strix B650E / 64GB @ 6000c30 / 2TB Samsung 980 Pro Heatsink 4.0x4 / 7.68TB Samsung PM9A3 / 3.84TB Samsung PM983 / 44TB Synology 1522+ / MSI Gaming Trio 4090 / EVGA G6 1000w /Thermaltake View71 / LG C1 48in OLED Custom water loop EK Vector AM4, D5 pump, Coolstream 420 radiator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, ewitte said: Its a bit of a wash right now that it depends on what you are looking for. It would have been 100% AMD before 12th gen Intel. And if you're not building right now, you could wait for ryzen 7000 and Intel 13th gen later this year... If I could help you, please mark my comment as "Solution"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 8, 2022 Author On 2/6/2022 at 6:49 PM, HQuan said: What's your budget? Annnnnnd also, what do you feel better? I am actually not planning to buy one but I am on a research on which gives better performance for price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 8, 2022 Price to performance is dependsnt on where you live, bacuse of scalpers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 8, 2022 On 2/6/2022 at 7:57 AM, greninja7rc said: So basically i want to build a pc Which is better in price to performance ratio? Intel or AMD Usage: Gaming, mild editing(photoshop,premiere pro), browsing speed,future proof Thanks! right now Intel is superior in most scenarios AMD has the LED CPUs like the 3995WX and better power efficiency which helps mainly with laptops Intel has the desktop CPUs like the 12700K which supports PCIE 5 and DDR5, things AMD won't support for another 9 months or so tl;dr: Intel is currently the best choice for desktop CPUs ░█▀▀█ ▒█░░░ ▒█▀▀▄ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█▀▀█ ▒█░░░ ░█▀▀█ ▒█░▄▀ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█░░░ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█▄▄▀ ▒█░░░ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█▀▄░ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█▄▄▀ ▒█▄▄▄ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█░▒█ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▄▄▄ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 8, 2022 On 2/6/2022 at 7:57 AM, greninja7rc said: So basically i want to build a pc Which is better in price to performance ratio? Intel or AMD Usage: Gaming, mild editing(photoshop,premiere pro), browsing speed,future proof Thanks! AMD APU's are far superior to Intels offerings...There is no comparison really. In the past, AMD has offered more 'bang for your buck' However, with the pandemic, the market is upside down right now. It is not a good time to buy PC parts in most scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 9, 2022 23 hours ago, steelo said: AMD APU's are far superior to Intels offerings...There is no comparison really. In the past, AMD has offered more 'bang for your buck' However, with the pandemic, the market is upside down right now. It is not a good time to buy PC parts in most scenarios. well, that's misleading with the word APUs, for straight CPU performance, calling value a competition is an exaggeration, however for PCs that will use the CPU's iGPU, you are correct, but for PCs that will use a dGPU any better than a 1050 or so, Intel has a large lead, especially for value ░█▀▀█ ▒█░░░ ▒█▀▀▄ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█▀▀█ ▒█░░░ ░█▀▀█ ▒█░▄▀ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█░░░ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█▄▄▀ ▒█░░░ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█▀▄░ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█▄▄▀ ▒█▄▄▄ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█░▒█ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▄▄▄ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 9, 2022 23 hours ago, steelo said: AMD APU's are far superior to Intels offerings...There is no comparison really. In the past, AMD has offered more 'bang for your buck' However, with the pandemic, the market is upside down right now. It is not a good time to buy PC parts in most scenarios. AMD iGPU offer better graphics performance but generally worse cpu performance. 80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 9, 2022 your budget definitely matters in this sense buuuut I might be a bit biased here i'd go with AMD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2022 23 hours ago, Alder Lake said: well, that's misleading with the word APUs, for straight CPU performance, calling value a competition is an exaggeration, however for PCs that will use the CPU's iGPU, you are correct, but for PCs that will use a dGPU any better than a 1050 or so, Intel has a large lead, especially for value Based on benchmarks I've seen in the past, at least for budget to mid-grade intel cpu's, the value just wasn't there for a slight performance gain over Ryzen. Intel CPU's were usually priced much higher for a negligible performance boost. If you wanted the 'unlocked' Intel variant, you paid even more. (I believe) all Ryzen desktop CPU's come unlocked from the factory. For example, I purchased a budget Ryzen 5 1600 af last year for $85 and overclocked it. It scores higher than an Intel i5 9600k on cinemark tests (by quite a bit) There were no Intel offerings that could match or exceed this performance for the price. Now, as I have mentioned, the market is screwed up right now and intel MAY be the better choice at this very moment. Personally, I wouldn't contemplate buying PC parts right now unless it is absolutely necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2022 On 2/6/2022 at 4:57 AM, greninja7rc said: Which is better in price to performance ratio Intel right now, imo. Ryzen 5000 is great and all, but the price really sucks for what you get. For much less money, you can get 10th or 11th gen over Ryzen 5000 and get 90% of the way there. For the same price, you can get Intel 12th gen for faster p cores and extra e cores for your background tasks. Probably gonna get called an Intel shill with this comment, but keep in mind I say this while owning an AMD Rig. On 2/6/2022 at 4:57 AM, greninja7rc said: Gaming Too general, you might want to give some specific games. A PC for AAA gaming will cost significantly more than one for e-sports and RPG's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, steelo said: Based on benchmarks I've seen in the past, at least for budget to mid-grade intel cpu's, the value just wasn't there for a slight performance gain over Ryzen. Intel CPU's were usually priced much higher for a negligible performance boost. If you wanted the 'unlocked' Intel variant, you paid even more. (I believe) all Ryzen desktop CPU's come unlocked from the factory. For example, I purchased a budget Ryzen 5 1600 af last year for $85 and overclocked it. It scores higher than an Intel i5 9600k on cinemark tests (by quite a bit) There were no Intel offerings that could match or exceed this performance for the price. Now, as I have mentioned, the market is screwed up right now and intel MAY be the better choice at this very moment. Personally, I wouldn't contemplate buying PC parts right now unless it is absolutely necessary. I'm not sure what kind of benchmarks you've been looking at, the 12400F completely destroys the AMD's CPUs at the same price point, even the 5600x, and costs only a fraction as much. the 12900K also laughs at the 5950x and costs $100 less ░█▀▀█ ▒█░░░ ▒█▀▀▄ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█▀▀█ ▒█░░░ ░█▀▀█ ▒█░▄▀ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█░░░ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█▄▄▀ ▒█░░░ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█▀▄░ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█▄▄▀ ▒█▄▄▄ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█░▒█ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▄▄▄ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Alder Lake said: I'm not sure what kind of benchmarks you've been looking at, the 12400F completely destroys the AMD's CPUs at the same price point, even the 5600x, and costs only a fraction as much. Ummm...'destroys'? Perhaps you and I have different definitions for that word In fact, the 5600X is slightly more capable (albeit more expensive) than the 12400F. https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/intel-core-i5-12400f-vs-amd-5-5600x/ https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-12400F-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X/4121vs4084 https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/intel-core-i5-12400f-vs-amd-ryzen-5-5600x As I've stated previously, the market is seriously screwed up right now. I predict when things (eventually) return to normalcy, AMD prices will drop significantly...especially on their previous gen CPU's. I'm not exactly sure why AMD CPU's are more expensive than Intel at the moment, but this has not been the norm over the past 3-4 years prior to the pandemic. Intel's (quite often lesser) CPU's for the insane price points literally were the laughing stock of the PC world only a few years ago...they quite frankly were being humiliated by AMD at the time. Anyways, this is probably one of the worst times to purchase PC parts unless you enjoy throwing away money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 11, 2022 Intel is better for gaming and most productivity workloads, but runs hotter and draws significant amounts more power than AMD's cooler, power-sipping cpus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 11, 2022 13 hours ago, steelo said: I'm not exactly sure why AMD CPU's are more expensive than Intel at the moment, but this has not been the norm over the past 3-4 years prior to the pandemic Yeah, I looked up the 3300x earlier on NewEgg USA and it was like 300 dollars!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 11, 2022 4 hours ago, StillOnIntegratedGraphics said: Yeah, I looked up the 3300x earlier on NewEgg USA and it was like 300 dollars!! Yeah, this is not the norm. It is a terrible time to build a PC or even upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 11, 2022 18 hours ago, steelo said: Ummm...'destroys'? Perhaps you and I have different definitions for that word In fact, the 5600X is slightly more capable (albeit more expensive) than the 12400F. https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/intel-core-i5-12400f-vs-amd-5-5600x/ https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-12400F-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X/4121vs4084 https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/intel-core-i5-12400f-vs-amd-ryzen-5-5600x As I've stated previously, the market is seriously screwed up right now. I predict when things (eventually) return to normalcy, AMD prices will drop significantly...especially on their previous gen CPU's. I'm not exactly sure why AMD CPU's are more expensive than Intel at the moment, but this has not been the norm over the past 3-4 years prior to the pandemic. Intel's (quite often lesser) CPU's for the insane price points literally were the laughing stock of the PC world only a few years ago...they quite frankly were being humiliated by AMD at the time. Anyways, this is probably one of the worst times to purchase PC parts unless you enjoy throwing away money. sorry, it's very rare that I give a funny reaction, but... is that... user... benchmark.......... also, your sources uh, they support me so do actual reviews ░█▀▀█ ▒█░░░ ▒█▀▀▄ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█▀▀█ ▒█░░░ ░█▀▀█ ▒█░▄▀ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█░░░ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█▄▄▀ ▒█░░░ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█▀▄░ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█▄▄▀ ▒█▄▄▄ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█░▒█ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▄▄▄ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, Alder Lake said: is that... user... benchmark.......... also, your sources uh, they support me so do actual reviews I suggest you re-read the reviews and not cherrypick the graphs you like. These articles show that the 2 CPU's trade blows, with the 5600x having a slight lead in certain multicore tests. Most other tests are practically nose to nose. Your post stating that the Intel 'destroys' the 5600x in performance is wildly inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, steelo said: I suggest you re-read the reviews and not cherrypick the graphs you like. These articles show that the 2 CPU's trade blows, with the 5600x having a slight lead in certain multicore tests. Your statement earlier that the Intel 'destroys' the 5600x in performance is wildly inaccurate. Idk, seems more like the 12400 is ahead ░█▀▀█ ▒█░░░ ▒█▀▀▄ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█▀▀█ ▒█░░░ ░█▀▀█ ▒█░▄▀ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█░░░ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█▄▄▀ ▒█░░░ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█▀▄░ ▒█▀▀▀ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█▄▄▀ ▒█▄▄▄ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▄▄█ ▒█░▒█ ▒█░▒█ ▒█▄▄▄ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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