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Finding a budget board is hard. The h81 chipset only supports PCIE 2 and the price difference isn't that much. Most reviews I kind find online are in Languages, that I do not understand. 

 

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The ASUS B85M-E seems to be the best board I could find. I used Newegg to get some reviews and now I know why to not get a Asrock board. What do you think of the Asus?

i have used asus in almost my every rig..and asus makes really great mobos...trust me on that...and pcie 2.0 will not at all slow ur gpu...the gpu that we have now cant even utilize all the x16 lanes of pcie 2.0...so no problem in that...u can get asus h81m-k...

 

heres the link...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132052

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with that machine for YouTube. Tho it is quite dated to be running a heavy OS like Windows 7. Install Lubuntu 14.04 (final release in 2 days) on it and watch it fly. If that's all she does is surf the web, running Linux will spring new life back into the machine while keeping her much safer online.

 

 

the operating system. Try using a debian distro. Does wonders to older computers.

 

I had ubuntu on it a few years ago. I had playback issues with flash videos. I never installed the radeon driver, maybe that is why ubuntu had the issue with it?

 

 

About 512MB for me. Swap included. Vista FTW. :D

 

I still have a copy of VIsta, will that work better?

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If you plan on doing any upgrading, might want to consider the new AM1 socket.

 

Athlon 5350 Quad Core @ 2.05 GHz (w/ 128 GCN Cores @ 600 MHz)

ASRock AM1B-ITX

Team Elite 8GB 1600 MHz

 

Total: $164.97

 

It would cost you just about the same to upgrade the core of the machine as it would to just add in a single 750 Ti. If all she does is web browsing four Jaguar cores and 128 GCN cores is more than enough, even for light gaming.

 

I had ubuntu on it a few years ago. I had playback issues with flash videos. I never installed the radeon driver, maybe that is why ubuntu had the issue with it?

 

 

 

I still have a copy of VIsta, will that work better?

No Vista will be worse, you might as well roll back to Windows XP to see any real performance gains. And what flash issues were you having?

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I had ubuntu on it a few years ago. I had playback issues with flash videos. I never installed the radeon driver, maybe that is why ubuntu had the issue with it?

 

 

 

I still have a copy of VIsta, will that work better?

Not really... Vista just worked better for me, oddly.

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If you plan on doing any upgrading, might want to consider the new AM1 socket.

Athlon 5350 Quad Core @ 2.05 GHz (w/ 128 GCN Cores @ 600 MHz)

ASRock AM1B-ITX

Team Elite 8GB 1600 MHz

Total: $164.97

It would cost you just about the same to upgrade the core of the machine as it would to just add in a single 750 Ti. If all she does is web browsing four Jaguar cores and 128 GCN cores is more than enough, even for light gaming.

No Vista will be worse, you might as well roll back to Windows XP to see any real performance gains. And what flash issues were you having?

Wow, that is really cheap. Are gnc cores like cuda cores? They have that stuff on sale. I could get the apu and motherboard for 70€ I still have some ram.

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Wow, that is really cheap. Are gnc cores like cuda cores? They have that stuff on sale. I could get the apu and motherboard for 70€ I still have some ram.

Yes GCN is the same architecture inside the current HD 7000 and R7/R9 cards. 128 of them aren't much, but to someone who doesn't even game there's plenty of horsepower there. Also yes if you have any DDR3 laying around it will work in the machine. These APU's are designed to cap at 1600 MHz support (unless you get that ASUS board that allows for 1866). Tho you wont need 1866 over 1600 as she doesn't play 3D games from my understanding. The IMC also only supports single channel, so you can mix and match sizes it doesn't matter.

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:P heheheheheheh Evil Vista.

800mb on idle - Windows 8 :P

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800mb on idle - Windows 8 :P

Still using 288MB less than you. xD Mind you this is with Rainmeter, F@H, Avast, and the ASRock OC Tuner all running. And it's the swap combined.

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Wow, that is really cheap. Are gnc cores like cuda cores? They have that stuff on sale. I could get the apu and motherboard for 70€ I still have some ram.

Tho I wouldn't aim any lower than the Athlon 5350 if you can (it's cheap anyhow). These are 25W TDP chips, at a full load the entire system will suck around 50 watts. So you could drop it into her current build, as long as the PSU has the 24 pin needed. I was thinking of grabbing myself one and a picoPSU and building a super tiny machine for Unix.  :P

 

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It was "slow" from the beginning. It isn't super slow, it is just a bit slow. On my PC, I click on a video and it runs. Her pc has to think about it for a few seconds.

 

That thinking time is just the delay in buffering content. Possibly caused by a relatively slow NIC with contributions by not enough memory - necessitating some disk swapping. New GPU will not change that.

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So my sister has a:

Intel Pentium D805 @2.66Ghz Dual Core

2gb of ram

ATI Radeon 3650 OC 800Mhz

and a almost new SATA HDD out of a Macbook Pro

Windows 7

 

She just uses it for youtube, but it is slow. Would a new GPU, like a 750Ti Help?

Windows 7 is slowing it down.....use XP and with the same specifications it would speed up.

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Still using 288MB less than you. xD Mind you this is with Rainmeter, F@H, Avast, and the ASRock OC Tuner all running. And it's the swap combined.

I think those things are much heavier on the CPU than the ram. Nonetheless you won this time  :P Windows 8 PURREVAH :)

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Windows 7 is slowing it down.....use XP and with the same specifications it would speed up.

 

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Leonard has a point. Are you using a windows 7 ultimate/professional edition? Might want to downgrade it to starter or home basic or xp :P

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the HDD, get a SSD, problem solved. lol

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Since Youtube, RAM is so important. Flash takes huge slice from ram. Even bigger if you use such stupid browser like Chrome.

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I think those things are much heavier on the CPU than the ram. Nonetheless you won this time  :P Windows 8 PURREVAH :)

They're meh. 2% to 6% at the destop.

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So my sister has a:

Intel Pentium D805 @2.66Ghz Dual Core

2gb of ram

ATI Radeon 3650 OC 800Mhz

and a almost new SATA HDD out of a Macbook Pro

Windows 7

 

She just uses it for youtube, but it is slow. Would a new GPU, like a 750Ti Help?

 

Ninite.com DL Malwarebytes and CCleaner. Both are free.

 

Start bar, type in MSconfig. Startup tab. Remove all the crap from startup you don't need, because this all takes memory and you only have 2gb of ram. I would also turn off Aero with a weaker GPU.

 

Try it out and see if it is better. You can also turn off services and indexing. There is a lot you can tweak on Win 7. With a little work it has a very small memory footprint. 

 

http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow_viewer/0,3253,l=251692&a=251692&po=1,00.asp

 

If all you use the PC for is youtube? That might be enough. :)

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Or I can give it to my grandma. She got a Nokia 100 and every time she has to unlock it with "Unlock and #" she says it is way to fast for her. 

 

Normally I would not do this (I am not a AMD fan at all), but wouldn't a AMD Apu be perfect for her?

A cheap one, yes :D

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The fact that it's ancient probably doesn't help.

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Tho I wouldn't aim any lower than the Athlon 5350 if you can (it's cheap anyhow). These are 25W TDP chips, at a full load the entire system will suck around 50 watts. So you could drop it into her current build, as long as the PSU has the 24 pin needed. I was thinking of grabbing myself one and a picoPSU and building a super tiny machine for Unix.  :P

 

I think I came to a solution with her. She gets a 50€ Haswell Motherboard and then I sale her my 4430 for 50€ and I will get a 4670K. (We already have Ram, PSU, Case, Hdd, Windows 7) It is a win win situation.

 

The AMD A1 is still a great option, but she just got into PC gaming (24 hours ago). My Steam Library was open and I was gone, so she tried out some games and really had fun with it. 

 

I'm just not sure yet, if it should be a H81 or B85 Motherboard.

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I would wipe the drive(s). Since all she does is watch YouTube.

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CPU.  My parents had a 2.8GHz Pentium D and it could not play 1080p video

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upgrade the ram. and check if the hdd is failing

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the operating system. Try using a debian distro. Does wonders to older computers.

^or any light linux distro in general. 

Win7 is not a light os. 

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