Who's also planning on ordering an AM5 motherboard, once the CPUs are released!?

[Exsosus]

I am.

 

A good article to get your started here: AMD Ryzen 6000 Series Release Date, Specifications, Price, and Benchmarks, this is mostly about AM4 but there are little yummy details about AM5 rumored in there. Everything is theory right now, but I am still excited. We should see AM5 in 2023. Anyone else going to build a new system when AM5 comes and the CPUs are blazing fast?

Discuss!

[Exsosus]

The reason why I will be building an AM5 system once the boards and CPUs are out is because I'm a technocrat and I just love new tech out there. Currently on an older AM4 motherboard, and my rule of thumb is only build a new system every 5-10 years. This keeps it economically sound, and lets me max out the mainboard without building a new system keeping costs at an all time low.

[mariushm]

Just upgraded to socket AM4 and a Ryzen 5800x , so it's probably gonna be at least 3-4 years until i upgrade.

 

Would never upgrade to first generation of something, because of early adopter issues ... firmware bugs, bios bugs, expensive stuff like ddr5 memory... 2nd gen usually is more stable and has hardware bugs fixed and improvements  (ex see Ryzen 1xxx vs Ryzen 2xxx processors, which had much better ram compatibility and other things working for them)

 

44 minutes ago, Exsosus said:

The reason why I will be building an AM5 system once the boards and CPUs are out is because I'm a technocrat and I just love new tech out there.

Sounds more like a masochist, not a technocrat... you like hurting yourself... you can be knowledgeable in IT, hardware, computer components, without actually being on the "bleeding edge"... which is called like that for a reason.

 

Do you think a network engineer is no good if they don't use $50k network switches in their home?

[CommanderAlex]

4 minutes ago, mariushm said:

Would never upgrade to first generation of something, because of early adopter issues ... firmware bugs, bios bugs, expensive stuff like ddr5 memory... 2nd gen usually is more stable and has hardware bugs fixed and improvements  (ex see Ryzen 1xxx vs Ryzen 2xxx processors, which had much better ram compatibility and other things working for them)

^This^ is the same exact reasoning I would not buy a AM5 motherboard or even upgrade yet due to early adopter issues. 

[Exsosus]

34 minutes ago, mariushm said:

Just upgraded to socket AM4 and a Ryzen 5800x , so it's probably gonna be at least 3-4 years until i upgrade.

 

Would never upgrade to first generation of something, because of early adopter issues ... firmware bugs, bios bugs, expensive stuff like ddr5 memory... 2nd gen usually is more stable and has hardware bugs fixed and improvements  (ex see Ryzen 1xxx vs Ryzen 2xxx processors, which had much better ram compatibility and other things working for them)

 

Sounds more like a masochist, not a technocrat... you like hurting yourself... you can be knowledgeable in IT, hardware, computer components, without actually being on the "bleeding edge"... which is called like that for a reason.

 

Do you think a network engineer is no good if they don't use $50k network switches in their home?

 

Do not worry @mariushm I am far from a masochist. I just love technology. Your post was nice too. Had I build an AM4 system today, I would have build my next one in the year 2026 or after.

[Exsosus]

30 minutes ago, CommanderAlex said:

^This^ is the same exact reasoning I would not buy a AM5 motherboard or even upgrade yet due to early adopter issues. 

Hi there @CommanderAlex. Can you give me a few examples of what AM4 had for early adopter issues when it first came to the market?

[IkeaGnome]

3 minutes ago, Exsosus said:

Hi there @CommanderAlex. Can you give me a few examples of what AM4 had for early adopter issues when it first came to the market?

IMC.

[Ykcud]

47 minutes ago, CommanderAlex said:

^This^ is the same exact reasoning I would not buy a AM5 motherboard or even upgrade yet due to early adopter issues. 

Same here! I am going to wait until 7000 series, or what ever they want to call it.

[LAwLz]

3 hours ago, Exsosus said:

Anyone else going to build a new system when AM5 comes and the CPUs are blazing fast?

I am probably going to upgrade my PC sometime in the coming ~3 years. Not sure if that will be AM5, AM6 LGA XXXX or whatever it ends up being though. Performance wise my PC is fine, although the single threaded performance leaves a bit to be desired. But I'd like better video encoding on my GPU, and I would also like to consolidate my storage so that I just have one big SSD. Right now I got two SSDs and two HDDs, and that just feels messy.

 

3 hours ago, Exsosus said:

The reason why I will be building an AM5 system once the boards and CPUs are out is because I'm a technocrat and I just love new tech out there.

Sounds to me like you're more of a "consoomer", which is not a good thing. "I buy things" should not be how you describe yourself.

Also, I think you are misusing the term "technocrat". A technocrat is someone who advocates for a form of government system where the decision making or makers are selected based on scientific or technical knowledge, rather than democracy. It doesn't mean "I mindlessly buy new tech things".

 

 

3 hours ago, Exsosus said:

my rule of thumb is only build a new system every 5-10 years.

I think a better rule of thumb would be "build a new system when your old one is no longer able to do things in a satisfying manner".

Do you actually need to upgrade your PC or are you buying new stuff because you are being brainwashed by marketing, and it gives you a temporary rush of dopamine whenever you spend money?

 

 

2 hours ago, Exsosus said:

Hi there @CommanderAlex. Can you give me a few examples of what AM4 had for early adopter issues when it first came to the market?

The big one was RAM compatibility. Quite a few people had issues getting their RAM to function at the validated speeds.

A couple of other issues that have been discovered is the fact that Ryzen 1000 can not address more than 16MB of EEPROM. Ryzen 2000 and higher can address more.

Temperature readings on Ryzen chips has changed from generation to generation. From what I remember, the first gen Ryzen processors has some weird internal offset that causes them to display ~20 degrees lower temperature than what it actually runs at. Other generations have other offsets but I believe they are more accurate.

There are also some reports of Ryzen chips degrading, thus causing you to need higher and higher voltage as time goes on, but I think that mostly affects Ryzen 3000, so in that case waiting for later generations didn't really help.

[BondiBlue]

I'm not planning to upgrade my entire platform any time soon. I'm already on B450, so I'll probably just upgrade my CPU once I feel the need to do so. 

[Exsosus]

8 hours ago, LAwLz said:

I am probably going to upgrade my PC sometime in the coming ~3 years. Not sure if that will be AM5, AM6 LGA XXXX or whatever it ends up being though. Performance wise my PC is fine, although the single threaded performance leaves a bit to be desired. But I'd like better video encoding on my GPU, and I would also like to consolidate my storage so that I just have one big SSD. Right now I got two SSDs and two HDDs, and that just feels messy.

 

Sounds to me like you're more of a "consoomer", which is not a good thing. "I buy things" should not be how you describe yourself.

Also, I think you are misusing the term "technocrat". A technocrat is someone who advocates for a form of government system where the decision making or makers are selected based on scientific or technical knowledge, rather than democracy. It doesn't mean "I mindlessly buy new tech things".

 

 

I think a better rule of thumb would be "build a new system when your old one is no longer able to do things in a satisfying manner".

Do you actually need to upgrade your PC or are you buying new stuff because you are being brainwashed by marketing, and it gives you a temporary rush of dopamine whenever you spend money?

 

 

The big one was RAM compatibility. Quite a few people had issues getting their RAM to function at the validated speeds.

A couple of other issues that have been discovered is the fact that Ryzen 1000 can not address more than 16MB of EEPROM. Ryzen 2000 and higher can address more.

Temperature readings on Ryzen chips has changed from generation to generation. From what I remember, the first gen Ryzen processors has some weird internal offset that causes them to display ~20 degrees lower temperature than what it actually runs at. Other generations have other offsets but I believe they are more accurate.

There are also some reports of Ryzen chips degrading, thus causing you to need higher and higher voltage as time goes on, but I think that mostly affects Ryzen 3000, so in that case waiting for later generations didn't really help.

Hi LAwlz, try not to judge people on the forum. If you haven't learned that by this point in life, try to. Let God do that one, hehe. I can happily tell you a little bit about myself. I'm a material minimalist and technophile. That means that I buy only what I need, when its needed and try to sell / give away things at home I don't use anymore. In this kind of description of myself you can notice I'm not a normal consumer, nor into buying the latest of the latest each week or month like many people are. I am what is called minimalist consumer. Thanks for helping me with the word technocrat as I do not live in an English-speaking country. Technocrat, what I intended as meaning instead was to write: Technophile. Definition of Technophile

 

When you wrote, build a new system when your old one is no longer able to do things in a satisfying manner, that is completely up to opinion. Instead, I go by years and years to decide when to buy. My system is 3 years old now, therefore in about 2-3 years it has been at least 5 and I'll build a new system then as that is my plan.

 

Thank you for explaining some examples of early adopter issues from the start of the AM4 era.

 

I just saw you answered the general OP question at the beginning of this. Nice discussion, all of us so far. Keep it up.

[MadAnt250]

8 hours ago, Exsosus said:

Anyone else going to build a new system when AM5 comes and the CPUs are blazing fast?

No, not really, I think I would just buy a used 3rd gen Ryzen 7 by the time my 2600X can't keep up, which would probably be by the time when I buy one of them stupid crap value RTX cards.