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Cases are Stupid.

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We build super expensive over the top machines all the time, but what about the little guy? We’re putting together a super cool open-concept SFF case from XWORKS. Come along as Linus kludges his way through assembly of this sweet little small form factor 1440P gaming machine.

 


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In keeping with the theme of the title , I think the amount of criticism cases get is stupid. Like dust filters and grommets and user friendliness layouts and such. If its a box and it moves air thats all that matters to me. 

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Alright.

 

Linus flipping over the screw box got a pretty good belly laugh from me.

It's entirely possible that I misinterpreted/misread your topic and/or question. This happens more often than I care to admit. Apologies in advance.

 

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Just now, 8tg said:

Cases are stupid, so spend 180$ on as little case as possible.

 

True chads build in the motherboard box. It's free, looks cool, and for more airflow cut off the lid. IO shield you can just cut into the back. 

Is it plugged in? Is it turned on? Are you sure? No, really. 

List of my systems:

Main PC:

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HP z620 workstation, 2x Xeon e5-2690 v0, EVGA GTX 980 SC, 8x4gb DDR3-1333, 2x 2tb HDD, 1tb boot SATA SSD, Windows 10 Pro

Linux system:

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ProDesk 600 g1 SFF, i5-4590, Quadro k620, 2x4gb DDR3-1333, 64gb boot SSD, 250gb storage HDD from the ewaste pile with many bad sectors, Ubuntu 20.04 LTS

XP system:

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Compaq DC7600 SFF, Pentium 4 HT 631, MSI GT 210 passive, 2x512m DDR2-667, 80gb Spinmaster HDD

Testbench:

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Optiplex 760 board, GameMax VP-600 PSU, 4x 64gb AliExpress SSD (Windows XP, Vista, 7, 10), 1tb HDD (storage)

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6 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

True chads build in the motherboard box. It's free, looks cool, and for more airflow cut off the lid. IO shield you can just cut into the back. 

True chads just use a laptop because they realize after dozens of iterations of different PCs that it’s all an inconvenient waste of money and any desktop is huge.

 

Pic related, average thinkpad owner 

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flexing their machine that’s smaller than any ITX build 

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7 minutes ago, 8tg said:

True chads just use a laptop because they realize after dozens of iterations of different PCs that it’s all an inconvenient waste of money and any desktop is huge.

 

Pic related, average thinkpad owner 

 

flexing their machine that’s smaller than any ITX build 

I prefer desktops becuase I can get my 5 display outputs, 4 audio in/5 audio out, 8x USB 3, 5x USB 2... that sort of thing but yes if you care about your PC being small that much just get a laptop

Is it plugged in? Is it turned on? Are you sure? No, really. 

List of my systems:

Main PC:

Spoiler

HP z620 workstation, 2x Xeon e5-2690 v0, EVGA GTX 980 SC, 8x4gb DDR3-1333, 2x 2tb HDD, 1tb boot SATA SSD, Windows 10 Pro

Linux system:

Spoiler

ProDesk 600 g1 SFF, i5-4590, Quadro k620, 2x4gb DDR3-1333, 64gb boot SSD, 250gb storage HDD from the ewaste pile with many bad sectors, Ubuntu 20.04 LTS

XP system:

Spoiler

Compaq DC7600 SFF, Pentium 4 HT 631, MSI GT 210 passive, 2x512m DDR2-667, 80gb Spinmaster HDD

Testbench:

Spoiler

Optiplex 760 board, GameMax VP-600 PSU, 4x 64gb AliExpress SSD (Windows XP, Vista, 7, 10), 1tb HDD (storage)

(currently has a Core 2 Quad Q9550 and 4x2gb DDR2-800 but I change its config frequently)

 

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A little curious about the hippo in the video, is that a callback to old Canadian commercials? (the north american house hippo)

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Do those Crucial drives have wireless SATA? Because I certainly didn't see any data cables...

 

Still a cool concept case, just way overpriced for what it is (the Flex PSU isn't even included at that price)...

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3 hours ago, emosun said:

In keeping with the theme of the title , I think the amount of criticism cases get is stupid. Like dust filters and grommets and user friendliness layouts and such. If its a box and it moves air thats all that matters to me. 

Do some cases still come with grommets? I thought that trend died with modern water cooling and AIOs.

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What cables are those? I'm super curious, I've never seen cables liek this before. And they're really small too.

I love Small Form factor ITX rigs.

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I'm trying to find that specific power supply but can't seem to find one with the modular connectors. Can you all tell us where you purchased it? The silicone cables that the
"case" comes with are cool but there don't seem to be any currently-for-sale flex power supplies that can use them except the one you're using.

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16 hours ago, carlw said:

I'm trying to find that specific power supply but can't seem to find one with the modular connectors. Can you all tell us where you purchased it? The silicone cables that the
"case" comes with are cool but there don't seem to be any currently-for-sale flex power supplies that can use them except the one you're using.

My first guess is it came with the case for review.

 

I did some searching, and I don't see it existing either.

delta "dps-500ab-10 A" doesn't come up with any useful results.

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On 12/6/2021 at 12:40 PM, emosun said:

In keeping with the theme of the title , I think the amount of criticism cases get is stupid. Like dust filters and grommets and user friendliness layouts and such. If its a box and it moves air thats all that matters to me. 

By that logic that means you enjoy just eating baby formula and water because it provides what you need and that's all that matters...

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@carlwIf you're looking for a good, quiet FlexATX PSUs, there's not many choices, especially with modular cables. Matter of fact there's only one 😅, the legendary Enhance ENP-7660B, and these 2 based on it: Extreme CAT MF 600F and MF 700F (sometimes named 7660B and 7760B).

 

The box for the Extreme Cats has a butterfly on it, and the two versions should be platinum(there's others).

 

Either aliexpress, or taobao using a forwarding company like Superbuy. Superbuy is probably the best option.

 

These are the only FlexATX that are modular, quiet enough, both fan wise and coil whine, and good enough component quality wise (the two CAT have somewhat downgraded components compared to Enhance platform they're based, but greatly reduced coil whine).

 

another option (involving possible coil whine, so u need to compensate with higher fan speed of fans other than PSU fan) is to just get a customized original Enhance which has higher quality components, and geekstore offers 3 different wattages and versions, and u can choose cable length, etc, but it will get expensive fast xD

 

https://www.geeekstore.com/product-category/power-supply/

 

Additionally u can get all black Enhance with fixed cables on amazon, ebay, and on velkase site (out of stock atm)

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H3CGGMS?tag=trekade-20&SubscriptionId=AKIAIHIRXBY3FSZTETBA

 

https://www.velkase.com/products/enp-7660b

 

Also skip the Noctua NH-L9 and get the widely available (on Amazon) Thermalright AXP90-X36. It has double the heatpipes. (also note any version that is called FULL Black is all copper graphite coated black, so far only X53 and the base X47/90R).

And I'm pretty sure it's viable to jerry-rig the noctua foam insert performance boosters on it https://noctua.at/en/na-fd1

 

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Cooler-Profile-AXP-90-X36-Black/dp/B09CGZKHGR/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=AXP90-X36+BLACK&qid=1639427186&sr=8-1

 

As the name says it's only 36mm in height, so you can recreate the old Linux circa 2019 Velkase 3 build (or another one with a aliexpress/superbuy chinese 4-5L case).

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On 12/13/2021 at 2:01 PM, Dogzilla07 said:

@carlwIf you're looking for a good, quiet FlexATX PSUs, there's not many choices, especially with modular cables. Matter of fact there's only one 😅, the legendary Enhance ENP-7660B, and these 2 based on it: Extreme CAT MF 600F and MF 700F (sometimes named 7660B and 7760B).

 

The box for the Extreme Cats has a butterfly on it, and the two versions should be platinum(there's others).

 

Either aliexpress, or taobao using a forwarding company like Superbuy. Superbuy is probably the best option.

 

These are the only FlexATX that are modular, quiet enough, both fan wise and coil whine, and good enough component quality wise (the two CAT have somewhat downgraded components compared to Enhance platform they're based, but greatly reduced coil whine).

 

another option (involving possible coil whine, so u need to compensate with higher fan speed of fans other than PSU fan) is to just get a customized original Enhance which has higher quality components, and geekstore offers 3 different wattages and versions, and u can choose cable length, etc, but it will get expensive fast xD

 

https://www.geeekstore.com/product-category/power-supply/

 

Additionally u can get all black Enhance with fixed cables on amazon, ebay, and on velkase site (out of stock atm)

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H3CGGMS?tag=trekade-20&SubscriptionId=AKIAIHIRXBY3FSZTETBA

 

https://www.velkase.com/products/enp-7660b

 

Also skip the Noctua NH-L9 and get the widely available (on Amazon) Thermalright AXP90-X36. It has double the heatpipes. (also note any version that is called FULL Black is all copper graphite coated black, so far only X53 and the base X47/90R).

And I'm pretty sure it's viable to jerry-rig the noctua foam insert performance boosters on it https://noctua.at/en/na-fd1

 

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Cooler-Profile-AXP-90-X36-Black/dp/B09CGZKHGR/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=AXP90-X36+BLACK&qid=1639427186&sr=8-1

 

As the name says it's only 36mm in height, so you can recreate the old Linux circa 2019 Velkase 3 build (or another one with a aliexpress/superbuy chinese 4-5L case).

Great tips above!

 

Do you think the 500w "all black" Velcase PSU/FSP FX500G will also have coil whine? The price seems reasonable, although it's only silver rated.

^^ Maybe this is what is shown in the video, as the custom-length cables are described as "Super Flexible Silicone Wire 20 AWG".


But what length for the modular cables? Options are 200/250/300/350mm.

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