AMD Ryzen 5 5600X build now OR Intel i5-12600K build later?

[qKatana]

Budget: $1750 AUD/$1300USD w/o GPU

Country: Australia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Popular FPS games, Engineering programs and general web browsing and movie/tv show watching

Other details:

 

AMD - https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/9Bvrz7 (plan to upgrade to a 3060Ti when prices drop)

Intel - https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/sjGQF8 (plan to get a reasonably priced Z690 motherboard with WIFI but they don't exist currently, DDR5 memory when they are at a normal price and a 3060Ti when prices drop)

Current Build (2018) - https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/KGGCQZ

 

Not overclocking.

 

My current situation is that my Ryzen 2200G seems to be the bottleneck of my PC and runs Apex Legends on low settings with decent frames but it's definitely not smooth. I often experience long freezes and stutters which often get me killed and honestly I'm sick of it. It's possible this issue is unrelated to my PC because I have pretty terrible internet but a 2200G isn't great and it is likely causing this problem. I would love some of your input to figure out this issue if you know for sure.

 

More to the point, I have come up with these 2 options for my next PC build and I would like to hear some feedback. Due to the very high GPU prices I'll be using my Radeon RX 570 as a placeholder until I can get my hands on a 3060Ti relatively close to MSRP. Since my GPU will obviously be the bottleneck for the new builds, I have no idea how it's going to go and some insight into this would be really appreciated. Lastly, do you think holding out for the Intel build is worth it and why? Will it take way longer than a few months for the gen 12 intel parts to drop in price (ie the motherboard and memory)? Let me know your thoughts please :))

 

TL;DR: I have a budget PC and want to build a new PC. Should I go with last years AMD or the brand new Alder Lake Intel build and what would you change?

[Dedayog]

What about upgrading what you have?  You can pop a 5600x on that board with a BIOS update.  Add 8GB more RAM., more SSD, etc.

 

Then add the 3060TI when prices drop or the next gen comes out.

 

It's an option.  Hoping you can find good deals during the holiday season regardless.

[jaslion]

2 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

What about upgrading what you have?  You can pop a 5600x on that board with a BIOS update.  Add 8GB more RAM., more SSD, etc.

 

Then add the 3060TI when prices drop or the next gen comes out.

 

It's an option.  Hoping you can find good deals during the holiday season regardless.

Also psu upgrade for sure there too if a 3060ti is planned. But really a 5600x, 16gb ram total, better psu and a bigger ssd would be good then a 3060ti can be purchased asap.

[qKatana]

6 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

What about upgrading what you have?  You can pop a 5600x on that board with a BIOS update.  Add 8GB more RAM., more SSD, etc.

 

Then add the 3060TI when prices drop or the next gen comes out.

 

It's an option.  Hoping you can find good deals during the holiday season regardless.

Thanks but I really don't wish to keep my budget gear so I'm definitely building a new one.

[Chris Pratt]

If waiting is an option, then this is a false choice. Unless you're building with Alder Lake today, AMD will have something soon that makes it pale in comparison. I'll give Intel that they did a good job with Alder Lake overall, but it's not transformative enough to stave off what AMD has in the pipeline. It's outperforming AMD now, but that much can be made up just with 3D-V versions of Zen 3. Zen 4 will blow it out of the water. Intel may very well hit back hard with 13th gen (which is why it's so exciting right now), but 12th gen isn't going to cut the mustard for more than a few months.

 

[qKatana]

2 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Also psu upgrade for sure there too if a 3060ti is planned. But really a 5600x, 16gb ram total, better psu and a bigger ssd would be good then a 3060ti can be purchased asap.

Soooo may as well build a new one if I can afford it hey ;))

[jaslion]

Just now, qKatana said:

Soooo may as well build a new one if I can afford it hey ;))

Not really going this route still saves them a fair chunk of money. But of course building new means selling this as a complete rig. So really up to what they feel like.

[qKatana]

1 minute ago, Chris Pratt said:

If waiting is an option, then this is a false choice. Unless you're building with Alder Lake today, AMD will have something soon that makes it pale in comparison. I'll give Intel that they did a good job with Alder Lake overall, but it's not transformative enough to stave off what AMD has in the pipeline. It's outperforming AMD now, but that much can be made up just with 3D-V versions of Zen 3. Zen 4 will blow it out of the water. Intel may very well hit back hard with 13th gen (which is why it's so exciting right now), but 12th gen isn't going to cut the mustard for more than a few months.

 

So you think I should wait a whole year until zen 4 comes out? Or wait until 13th gen? Zen 5? 14th gen? When does it end hahaha

[qKatana]

Just now, jaslion said:

Not really going this route still saves them a fair chunk of money. But of course building new means selling this as a complete rig. So really up to what they feel like.

I am they. I am definitely building a new PC no questions asked.

[Dedayog]

1 minute ago, qKatana said:

Thanks but I really don't wish to keep my budget gear so I'm definitely building a new one.

You have an odd definition of "budget gear".  Your parts are great, just a few are lower level.  We're replacing those to more performance oriented spec.  Getting a new motherboard for a 5600x is just flat out "insert nnon-PC word here".  It's more than capable, a new motherboard doesn't give you faster or better necessarily.  It's a chassis, basically.

 

Anyway, build anytime, they'll always have better around the corner.

[Jonathan Lee]

3 hours ago, qKatana said:

Lastly, do you think holding out for the Intel build is worth it and why? Will it take way longer than a few months for the gen 12 intel parts to drop in price (ie the motherboard and memory)? Let me know your thoughts please :))

Honestly there is no going wrong with going either AMD or Intel. Their performance is essentially within spitting distance. 12th gen is faster and probably will be way smoother cause it has i5 has 10 cores (6p + 4e) vs ryzen 5's only 6 cores. The spare 4 e cores will run all the background processes making game play much smoother because the game doesn't need to share resources with other applications (windows, chrome, discord, etc.). With that said, you would be adopting a new platform and infrastructure so there might be so growing pains as programs and windows adapt to the newish tech.

 

Honestly I think the only CPU's worth their cost on AMD is the Ryzen 9's. If you're going with ryzen 5600x or 5800x, go with intel 11/10400f or 11/10700f. It's way cheaper and not that much slower. I would recommend going with a higher core count CPU though because of current trend of increasing core counts CPU's. It will make games run a lot smoother when you have extra cores to take care of background tasks.

 

It probably won't be until AMD releases a competitive CPU that prices for gen 12 will drop. It was the same with Ryzen 5000, no price drop until 12th gen came out.

 

Most of this will depend on game selection though. For a game like APEX, I believe you will benefit from an 8+ core CPU. Large multiplayer games tend to use CPU a lot more.