100% load with good temps. Will it 'degrade'?

[Charkel]

When it comes to batteries I know the biggest culprit of degrading is heat (and cycles)

 

But what about a GPU? If you run it at 100% 24/7 but manage to keeps temps at 40-50c will it 'degrade' less than if at say 70c?

[-rascal-]

2 minutes ago, Charkel said:

When it comes to batteries I know the biggest culprit of degrading is heat (and cycles)

 

But what about a GPU? If you run it at 100% 24/7 but manage to keeps temps at 40-50c will it 'degrade' less than if at say 70c?

 

GPUs and CPUs are different from batteries.

They are designed, capable of running at 100% for extended periods of time.

40*C ~ 50*C, even 70*C ~ 75*C is considered "normal" operating temperature.

Of course, the lower the temperature the better...less noise, etc.

[GuiltySpark_]

This questions has been popping up on tech forums for decades. 

 

Short answer? Yes, it will degrade.

 

Long answer? Yes, but this just isn't something you need to worry about in terms of the useable lifespan of the product. You'll have moved on to something else well before a well taken care of product's core degrades to the point where its damaged. This just isn't a realistic worry to have. 

 

Keep it cool and don't worry about it.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

For all intents and purposes, silicon doesn't degrade under normal operating conditions. 

Gpus will need cleaned, and pads and tim replaced over time, but it will be just as fast as when it was new.

Technically silicon will degrade, but not in any noticable amount.

[manikyath]

here's the problem with electronics 'degrading':

what *is* the lifespan of a transistor?

 

we know that the hotter they run (or more notably, the more voltage we pump trough), the faster they degrade.. the question is.. where is the baseline? there's still 133MHz pentiums going strong, there's still Zilog Z80's, there's still MOS 6502's..

 

as long as you're within normal operating conditions (acceptable temperature, not overvolted, ..) degradation is not anywhere serious enough to be an appreciable difference compared to the vague description of what the "lifespan" actually is.

 

or in other words.. at normal operating temperatures, you'll have capacitor issues way before you have silicon issues, you'll have connector wear way before you'll have silicon issues, and you'll probably have far outreached the amount of time the component will be useful (because y'know.. requirements go up over time..)

 

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i have this old athlon 64 on the shelf. it's been trough hell and back several times, it's spent 8 years at an office being poorly maintaned. it's then ran about a year 100% 24/7 serving as a home server for downloading dreamspark stuff over a poopy connection until the cpu fan died, with that replaced it ran even longer until just about every cap on the motherboard was leaking.

 

after all that.. CPU still rock solid, south bridge (GPU is in south bridge..) still doing fine. at some point i'm gonna actually bother with recapping the board, and running it even more, but at this point even the 24-pin ATX connector has worn out to the point it's making bad contact.

[Tech87]

This sounds like you're asking if a video card will degrade when mining 24/7.

Yes, it will degrade over time.

 

The fans will fail a lot faster and the vram would likely go bad before the GPU core. (As evidenced by artifacting)

[Mick Naughty]

Being used as intended, don’t see the issue. 

[Kilrah]

My CPU with a 35% overclock and thus massive heat output, hitting 95-100°C on full load. System is 6.5 years old and still going as strong as on day 1. 

 

[Charkel]

32 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

GPUs and CPUs are different from batteries.

They are designed, capable of running at 100% for extended periods of time.

40*C ~ 50*C, even 70*C ~ 75*C is considered "normal" operating temperature.

Of course, the lower the temperature the better...less noise, etc.

Yeah of course I dunno why I dragged batteries into this  
ANC headphones baby = noise ain't an issue
 

13 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

For all intents and purposes, silicon doesn't degrade under normal operating conditions.

Gpus will need cleaned, and pads and tim replaced over time, but it will be just as fast as when it was new.

Technically silicon will degrade, but not in any noticable amount.

That's good to know the silicon can take it.

 

11 minutes ago, manikyath said:

here's the problem with electronics 'degrading':

what *is* the lifespan of a transistor?

 

we know that the hotter they run (or more notably, the more voltage we pump trough), the faster they degrade.. the question is.. where is the baseline? there's still 133MHz pentiums going strong, there's still Zilog Z80's, there's still MOS 6502's..

 

as long as you're within normal operating conditions (acceptable temperature, not overvolted, ..) degradation is not anywhere serious enough to be an appreciable difference compared to the vague description of what the "lifespan" actually is.

 

or in other words.. at normal operating temperatures, you'll have capacitor issues way before you have silicon issues, you'll have connector wear way before you'll have silicon issues, and you'll probably have far outreached the amount of time the component will be useful (because y'know.. requirements go up over time..)

 

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i have this old athlon 64 on the shelf. it's been trough hell and back several times, it's spent 8 years at an office being poorly maintaned. it's then ran about a year 100% 24/7 serving as a home server for downloading dreamspark stuff over a poopy connection until the cpu fan died, with that replaced it ran even longer until just about every cap on the motherboard was leaking.

 

after all that.. CPU still rock solid, south bridge (GPU is in south bridge..) still doing fine. at some point i'm gonna actually bother with recapping the board, and running it even more, but at this point even the 24-pin ATX connector has worn out to the point it's making bad contact.

This makes full sense. Hope I got them good caps. I don't see any problems if a cap would fail as long as it does not damage the card. I can easily replace a cap if that would happen.

I've never had anything fail. But am usually not running constant high loads either just many years of constant use. It's the classic electronic gamble I guess. I've repaired 10.000 phones so I know some just fail while the most survive for years. I never saw a working phone in my job but I've never had a problem with my phones ever.

 

9 minutes ago, Tech87 said:

This sounds like you're asking if a video card will degrade when mining 24/7.

Yes, it will degrade over time.

 

The fans will fail a lot faster and the vram would likely go bad before the GPU core. (As evidenced by artifacting)

Yeah I guess a fan could be a first problem. Not a big problem tho easily fixed.