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5800H or 11800H

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I just bought a Lenovo Legion 5 Pro with an RTX 3070 and I'm pretty happy with it. I just saw Intel announced the 11800H and Legion 5i Pro. IDK when it will be available but should I return and wait for the 11800H?

Personally I don't care about gaming performance, they'll be so close that I'm not going to tell the difference without fps graphs. I care about raw processing power (programming/compiling code) and daily use.

There are some differences like AVX-512 and PCI lanes I think. What should I do?

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Ryzen alsways has been better in raw processing power sso i would not worry about it. Also i would wait for Hardware unboxed to release their review of the 11800H to see if it is any better

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TGL-H is about 5% faster in general, however efficiency doesn't improve from 10th gen

 

Personally would still pick Ryzen 5000 as efficiency is king in laptops, unless you need the features in TGL-H like AVX512

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1 minute ago, genexis_x said:

Personally would still pick Ryzen 5000 as efficiency is king in laptops, unless you need the features in TGL-H like AVX512

I don't need AVX-512 but idk what it will give me. Are there programs that require that?

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13 minutes ago, MetalZero said:

I don't need AVX-512 but idk what it will give me. Are there programs that require that?

Intel® Advanced Vector Extensions 512 (Intel® AVX-512) is a set of new instructions that can accelerate performance for workloads and usages such as scientific simulations, financial analytics, artificial intelligence (AI)/deep learning, 3D modeling and analysis, image and audio/video processing, cryptography and data compression.2

 

 

-from the Intel website.

 

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30 minutes ago, Cheburek said:

Intel® Advanced Vector Extensions 512 (Intel® AVX-512) is a set of new instructions that can accelerate performance for workloads and usages such as scientific simulations, financial analytics, artificial intelligence (AI)/deep learning, 3D modeling and analysis, image and audio/video processing, cryptography and data compression.2

 

 

-from the Intel website.

 

Which is just the marketing side of it, yes. Afaik there is no software that REQUIRES AVX-512 as that'd exclude 99.9% of CPUs on the market. 

 

In other words, it very likely won't be the killer feature to switch for. Not until after the laptop is replaced 5 or so years down the road.

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5 hours ago, MetalZero said:

I don't need AVX-512 but idk what it will give me. Are there programs that require that?

Require? No, but you can compile some stuff to make use of it. As an example, you can easily add -mprefer-vector-width=512 to make use of it on gcc.

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