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2 minutes ago, untrustworthy said:

This... I have had false cautions from CDI but I haven't seen that one. Reallocated sectors are sectors that corrupted and were moved (I'm pretty sure?). I would back up the hard drive either to the cloud or to an external drive (or a spare internal drive) because if this escalates it could probably be pretty bad.

AFAIK, that reads as follows: 100 is the limit and 5 Sektors (in your case) have been moved. 

To be sure, install Sea Tools (freeware from Seagate, works on all HDDs). Do a surface scan for bad sectors.

As a rule of thumb, if the drive is used daily for games and or OS and applications, The manufacturers warranty is the expected life time plus 50 percent if the system was on less than 8 hours a day.

You can also use HWinfo64, it does calculate the uptime in moths and years.

Hitachi and Seagate drives have a Sector allocation limit of 100, while most WD drives, have 200. That does not mean that the drive won't fail before reaching that limit. If your reallocation count has gone up recently and is still going, it is high time to replace the drive. If not, do a surface scan with Sea Tools and check the drives. I would also advise to check every new drive, that way you can potentially avoid issues later and replace the drive before loosing data.

looking at crystal diskinfo and im getting a caution with reallocated sectors count. not sure what it means but im guessing its bad? current is at 100 and worst is at 100 and threshold is at 5

does this mean my hard drive can be failing? if so how long until it does?

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2 hours ago, untrustworthy said:

Can you send a screenshot?

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Just now, ISHAJDM said:

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That almost looks like crystal disk info isn't reporting it right. Thats a extremly high amount of reallocated sectors if that value is right, and the drive doesn't report that as a problem

 

Id probably keep using the drive if you don't have other issues and make sure you have good backups.

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1 minute ago, ISHAJDM said:

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This... I have had false cautions from CDI but I haven't seen that one. Reallocated sectors are sectors that corrupted and were moved (I'm pretty sure?). I would back up the hard drive either to the cloud or to an external drive (or a spare internal drive) because if this escalates it could probably be pretty bad.

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Usually when sectors start failing then more will fail soon, so yes consider that drive as dying.

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2 minutes ago, untrustworthy said:

This... I have had false cautions from CDI but I haven't seen that one. Reallocated sectors are sectors that corrupted and were moved (I'm pretty sure?). I would back up the hard drive either to the cloud or to an external drive (or a spare internal drive) because if this escalates it could probably be pretty bad.

AFAIK, that reads as follows: 100 is the limit and 5 Sektors (in your case) have been moved. 

To be sure, install Sea Tools (freeware from Seagate, works on all HDDs). Do a surface scan for bad sectors.

As a rule of thumb, if the drive is used daily for games and or OS and applications, The manufacturers warranty is the expected life time plus 50 percent if the system was on less than 8 hours a day.

You can also use HWinfo64, it does calculate the uptime in moths and years.

Hitachi and Seagate drives have a Sector allocation limit of 100, while most WD drives, have 200. That does not mean that the drive won't fail before reaching that limit. If your reallocation count has gone up recently and is still going, it is high time to replace the drive. If not, do a surface scan with Sea Tools and check the drives. I would also advise to check every new drive, that way you can potentially avoid issues later and replace the drive before loosing data.

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3 minutes ago, Applefreak said:

AFAIK, that reads as follows: 100 is the limit and 5 Sektors (in your case) have been moved. 

To be sure, install Sea Tools (freeware from Seagate, works on all HDDs). Do a surface scan for bad sectors.

As a rule of thumb, if the drive is used daily for games and or OS and applications, The manufacturers warranty is the expected life time plus 50 percent if the system was on less than 8 hours a day.

You can also use HWinfo64, it does calculate the uptime in moths and years.

Hitachi and Seagate drives have a Sector allocation limit of 100, while most WD drives, have 200. That does not mean that the drive won't fail before reaching that limit. If your reallocation count has gone up recently and is still going, it is high time to replace the drive. If not, do a surface scan with Sea Tools and check the drives. I would also advise to check every new drive, that way you can potentially avoid issues later and replace the drive before loosing data.

From most drives Ive seen, 100 is the current normalized value, 100 is "good", and 5 is the point where the drive says its bad. SO the normalized vales look good for the drive.

 

That is also a really high value for reallocated sectors, so could be hex or something else going on here. You really can't look at raw values in smart without knowing what that exact drives means by them.

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5 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

From most drives Ive seen, 100 is the current normalized value, 100 is "good", and 5 is the point where the drive says its bad. SO the normalized vales look good for the drive.

 

That is also a really high value for reallocated sectors, so could be hex or something else going on here. You really can't look at raw values in smart without knowing what that exact drives means by them.

I agree. Unfortunately I have no info on Hitachi drives. Again, if the drive is out of warranty and other tools give you a warning, I would replace it asap. Can't hurt to be sure and prices of 500 GB drives have come really down lately so replacing won't hurt as much as 10 years ago.

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It's only a 500GB drive, so if you have data on it that you care about it wouldn't cost much to replace it. I don't know if the S.M.A.R.T. data is being reported correctly or not, but if it is that's an extremely high number of reallocated sectors. 

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3 hours ago, Applefreak said:

I agree. Unfortunately I have no info on Hitachi drives. Again, if the drive is out of warranty and other tools give you a warning, I would replace it asap. Can't hurt to be sure and prices of 500 GB drives have come really down lately so replacing won't hurt as much as 10 years ago.

this drive came from an old laptop and is about 10+ years old. I might just run it as long as it can go then replace it with an ssd when completely. will use that app for calculating the time tho as im curious.

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If i have a drive with even 1 reallocated sector, it comes out and gets replaced.

 

Your drive seems to be reporting many thousands of reallocated sectors...

 

It could be a mistake, but i certainly wouldnt be risking continued use. Even if the data on it is not important or valuable, a drive failure at an inopportune moment cant be really problematic. Replace it in good time now that you know its iffy.

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