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Learning Memory Overclocking - Current Status: 3600mhz, 1800FCLK, 14-13-13-28

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So this post is gonna be sorta a journal on my journeys in ram overclocking, I've never oc'd anything in the BIOS before since I usually prefer to just plug n' play, even on enthusiast-end stuff. Feel free to chime in with advice if you feel like it! The system was just built a few days ago, specs are as follows:

 

CPU: 5950x @stock speeds (liquid cooling loop hasn't been assembled yet, so got a cheap shadow rock 3 air tower on it right now

MoBo: ROG Crosshair 8 Dark Hero, BIOS v3202

RAM: 64GB (16x4) Quad-stick set of G.Skill F4-3600C14Q-64GVK (Ripjaws V) 3600Mhz 14-15-15-35 stock @1.45v

 

Report 1: 

I started playing around at the advertised values of  3600Mhz 14-15-15-35. After playing around a bit, I raised the SOC voltage from auto to 1.15v, then to 1.2v. DRAM Voltage was lowered to 1.44v, not sure if 0.01v even makes a difference. I started by cranking the IF clock to 1800Mhz, and enabling "gear down mode," not sure what exactly that does, but saw it in a video. also disabled "power down mode."

 

Report 2:

I managed to get a few combinations of IF-clock and DRAM frequency to post:

3600Mhz - 1800FCLK

3666Mhz - 1900FCLK

3600Mhz - 2000FCLK

 

Not sure if going out of the "1:1 sweet spot" will hurt my performance or not. I can probably get 3666Mhz - 2000FCLK to work too, but not sure if that will make things better or worse. Haven't seen many posts on reaching 2000FCLK on the web, so I guess I'll have to try it out myself, unless anyone here knows?

 

That said, here's the key figure: latencies! Right now I'm at 3600Mhz 2000FCLK 14-13-13-33!*

 

I haven't tried any of the other scary-looking-timing numbers yet, since I haven't a clue what they do, but if this stability test comes out good (it's looking positive), I'll look into tightening the timings a little more, and maybe going even higher on the IF-clock?

 

*It should be noted that I've put a fan on top of the DRAM modules as a form of active cooling. The DIMMs are cool to the touch! I will be watercooling the dimms (mainly for looks) when I get the loop assembled.

 

Cheers, will report back

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you might see improved performance with IF at 1800, run some game benchmarks to verify.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

you might see improved performance with IF at 1800, run some game benchmarks to verify.

I haven't tried any games yet on this system unfortunately. How well does RAM overclocking scale with Cinebench R15? That's the only benchmark I remembered to run before this lol, with an everything-stock top score of 4219.

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I envy your memory kit. It's top of the line. 

 

Best performance gains at 1:1:1 ratio. There's really no other way.

No different than my 1700+ Palomino Running DDR 1:1. Hasn't changed. 1:1 all these years.....

 

Anyhow. You would unlink IF once you get around 4000mhz. Then you could push that kit up and beyond. 

 

If you get stuck on 4 sticks, pull 2 and try for more. 

 

HFGL!

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22 minutes ago, hihihi8 said:

I haven't tried any games yet on this system unfortunately. How well does RAM overclocking scale with Cinebench R15? That's the only benchmark I remembered to run before this lol, with an everything-stock top score of 4219.

cinebench score doesn't improve with faster memory

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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@ShrimpBrimethanks! What's the third 1 btw? I've only heard of 1:1. As for clocks, I've been stuck at 3666 on this set, tried upping voltage (went to 1.475, even 1.5 briefly), and down too to see if lower temps would get it to post, but I haven't managed to get 3733mhz to post yet, at least not at the current timing figures. 

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45 minutes ago, hihihi8 said:

@ShrimpBrimethanks! What's the third 1 btw? I've only heard of 1:1. As for clocks, I've been stuck at 3666 on this set, tried upping voltage (went to 1.475, even 1.5 briefly), and down too to see if lower temps would get it to post, but I haven't managed to get 3733mhz to post yet, at least not at the current timing figures. 

it should boot at 14-14-14 3733 1.5v barring bad luck, i got 16 of those sticks during thanksiginving on sale and all of them ran 3733 (though a few sticks actually ended up with lower scores, the sweet spot should be around 14-14-14 3733 1:1 with 4 sticks. If it doesn't do 3733 then it's likely silicon lottery on the imc, though from reviews it seems like the only weakness of the dark hero is memory overclocking.

 

If your imc actually does 2000 1:1 then the memory should run 15-15-15 4000 easily, but i've seen dark hero that struggle past 3666 with 4 sticks.

 

this is basically the same bin as the 14-15-15, just different stock settings

 

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232968?Description=cl15 4000&cm_re=cl15_4000-_-20-232-968-_-Product&quicklink=true

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55 minutes ago, hihihi8 said:

@ShrimpBrimethanks! What's the third 1 btw? I've only heard of 1:1. As for clocks, I've been stuck at 3666 on this set, tried upping voltage (went to 1.475, even 1.5 briefly), and down too to see if lower temps would get it to post, but I haven't managed to get 3733mhz to post yet, at least not at the current timing figures. 

 Fclk : Uclk : Mclck

 

That memory will likely fly pretty far on 16-16-16-36. 

1.50v should be no problem. Just keep them cool as you can. 

Use HWInfo64 to see the memory temps.

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53 minutes ago, xg32 said:

it should boot at 14-14-14 3733 1.5v barring bad luck

 

36 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

1.50v should be no problem

 

Report 3:

Oh my! 1.5v didn't post and so in a leap of faith I did 1.55v on DRAM voltage and it posts! 3733Mhz 1866FCLK 14-13-13-33 timings!

 

Here're the exact details, many timing numbers of which I just copied and pasted from LTT's "ultra high end" test on their Ryzen RAM purchasing guide.

 

DRAM Freq: 3733MHz

FCLK Freq: 1866MHz

DRAM Voltage: 1.55v

CPU SOC Voltage: 1.2v

Primary DRAM Latencies: 14-13-13-13-33

Trc: 42

TrrdS: 4

TrrdL: 6

Tfaw: 24

TwtrS: 4

TwtrL: 12

Twr: 12

TrdrdScl: 3

TwrwrScl: 3

Trfc: 288Tcwl: 14

Trtp: 8

Cmd2T: 1T

Gear Down Mode: Enabled

Power Down Enable: Disable

CPU Current Capability: 110%

VDDSOC Phase Control: Extreme

DRAM Current Capability: 130%

DRAM Power Phase Control: Extreme

DRAM Switching Freq: 400KHz

PBO: Enabled

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Report 4:

 

I backed it down to 1.45v and 3666MHz + 1833FCLK due to the fact that I'm still on Air and the thermal paste isn't the best (just a temporary air cooler after all). The retreat was more out of concern for the IMC than the DIMMs. Once I get it on water I'll probably go back up and see if it's stable at 1.545v (It posts at 1.54v, but I have not stress tested it at 3733mhz+1866fclk yet out of concerns of deteriorating stuff before i even get to enjoy it properly).

 

I only need this system to last 5-ish years so I wont be too sad if it dies like 6years down the line.

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Report 5: 

The system refuses to boot with Gear Down Mode disabled, even with timings as loose as 19-20-20-xx, probably because of the fact that i'm running 4 DIMMs.

 

Managed to tighten timings down a little bit: tRAS=28, tRDWR=8, tWRWRD=4, tCKE=1

 

I realized something: does it even make sense to cut down tRCD and tRP to 13? I recall I got it to boot even at tRCD=12 and tRP=12, but does I've never seen ram kits with tRCD and tRP values lower than tCL. Is the rule of lower=better independent of the other values such as tCL and tRAS in this case? @ShrimpBrime@Fasauceome@xg32

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What are you testing with? Just some benches or anything stressful? Is this for a daily oc or just running numbers? Best numbers come from 1900 (+) 1:1 I find. I tried a pair of my sticks up to 4400 or 4600CL16 and still couldn't make up the loss of 1:1, I didn't test with 3D.

 

Might have been a little unstable too but it worked 😄

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Currently not benching anything, just doing 4-pass memtest86 to ensure stability each time I hit a point I feel is worth keeping in the long run — this is for a daily OC.

 

my 3600 quad-stick kit can't hit 3800 no matter what i try. The max max I've gotten to boot has been 3666+1833 i believe, didn't stress for stability.

 

Alternatively I can set command rate to 2T and get CL13 @3600mhz

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59 minutes ago, hihihi8 said:

@freeagent

Currently not benching anything, just doing 4-pass memtest86 to ensure stability each time I hit a point I feel is worth keeping in the long run — this is for a daily OC.

 

my 3600 quad-stick kit can't hit 3800 no matter what i try. The max max I've gotten to boot has been 3666+1833 i believe, didn't stress for stability.

 

Alternatively I can set command rate to 2T and get CL13 @3600mhz

I had a hard time getting four sticks stable over 1866 without bumping SOC LLC to level 2 or 3, and increasing SOC current capability by 20%

 

That let me get the speed, and keep things fairly tight.

 

I think 😄

 

Still new.. only been a couple of months with this setup and DDR4 and Ryzen in general 😄

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Well I don't have any AMD rigs past Zen+. So I will have a hard time comparing to your guys rigs.

 

This is Intel 8700K stock, XMP enabled, frequency lowered to 4133mhz (2066mhz effective) easy on memory voltage 1.58v probably could drop this to 1.50v, but I like that 1.60v area. Depending on where I'm headed, what benchmark works with whatever timings and frequency ect ect.

 

AIDA, these numbers go up with Cpu OC. So I ran the cpu stock to get an idea of what we are looking at just from memory OC.

 

Any how, I wish you guys would take more screen shots. Here's one for you.

 

 

 

Stock with mem oc.png

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Report 5: 

The system refuses to boot with Gear Down Mode disabled, even with timings as loose as 19-20-20-xx, probably because of the fact that i'm running 4 DIMMs.

 

Managed to tighten timings down a little bit: tRAS=28, tRDWR=8, tWRWRD=4, tCKE=1

 

I realized something: does it even make sense to cut down tRCD and tRP to 13? I recall I got it to boot even at tRCD=12 and tRP=12, but does I've never seen ram kits with tRCD and tRP values lower than tCL. Is the rule of lower=better independent of the other values such as tCL and tRAS in this case? @ShrimpBrime@Fasauceome@xg32

i've been meaning to suggest 14-14-14 instead, 14-13-13 can introduce a whole host of instability issues, and if it only boots with GDM so be it. Trfc 300 or 320 should do.

 

image.png.3d640c3e1fbeb64b6ef4ceb711676283.png

 

afaik it's the same kit and it'll work on 14 14 14 32 280 3733

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22 minutes ago, xg32 said:

i've been meaning to suggest 14-14-14 instead, 14-13-13 can introduce a whole host of instability issues, and if it only boots with GDM so be it. Trfc 300 or 320 should do.

 

afaik it's the same kit and it'll work on 14 14 14 32 280 3733

We've got different kits. Mine's the 64GB quad-stick kit rated at 14-15-15-35 1.45V.

 

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tRFC is stable at 288. So far these settings have passed a 4-pass run of memtest86 and are running pretty good. Also, I noticed you were running a 2T CR, I think i'll try a CL13 2T and bench it against my 14 1T when I have time.

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1 hour ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Well I don't have any AMD rigs past Zen+. So I will have a hard time comparing to your guys rigs.

 

This is Intel 8700K stock, XMP enabled, frequency lowered to 4133mhz (2066mhz effective) easy on memory voltage 1.58v probably could drop this to 1.50v, but I like that 1.60v area. Depending on where I'm headed, what benchmark works with whatever timings and frequency ect ect.

Was this 1.58V a daily thing? I've only briefly tried 1.55V, haven't dared do it long term or stress test it at that voltage yet.

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22 minutes ago, hihihi8 said:

Was this 1.58V a daily thing? I've only briefly tried 1.55V, haven't dared do it long term or stress test it at that voltage yet.

Right so, thinking a B-Die kit like @xg32 had linked earlier, 1.55v is only 0.050 volt increase over the XMP of that particular kit. 

 

In other words, yes, I can and often do run up to 1.6v daily. So the overclock in the screen shot won't change unless I want to example something again.

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Man.. Im telling you.. 

 

I beat the piss out of this thing trying to get low latency.

 

Honestly, I am not sure if Ryzen 3000 is capable of going below 62ns?

 

Maybe I'm doing it wrong 😄

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Man.. Im telling you.. 

 

I beat the piss out of this thing trying to get low latency.

 

Honestly, I am not sure if Ryzen 3000 is capable of going below 62ns?

 

Maybe I'm doing it wrong 😄

 

Why would it not be capable??

 

(EDIT: Additional Comment)

 

I've said this. I mean it.

 

Not ALL about memory latency or bandwidth. Efficiency is a thing.

 

AMD really loves 16's straight up. Not sure why. Not sure how. Minor latency decrease (if any) if I change this to Cas 14.

 

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Here's the comparison

 

 

 

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So apparently it wasn't as stable as I thought. The OC passed a bunch of stress tests but randomly crashed on me twice on idle. I thought it was the new GPU OC that crashed it, but disabling that didn't make it go away and it crashed again 6 hours-ish down the line. Both the same crash: Screens go dark and IO stops working, fans spin at max speed. Reset button doesn't work, neither does holding down the power button. Only solution is to flick the PSU switch.

 

Currently removed all OC's and gonna run it completely stock for a few days at least to see if it's a hardware fault. It's crashing at idle and not during load so I think it's unlikely to be PSU related (it's a new/refurbished AX1500i which is way overkill to begin with). A further HCI memtest I did like an hour ago did yield 1 error which is new, and leads me to believe the ram is the culprit after all.

 

Final bits for the loop are arriving soon, don't want to build the hardline loop then have to take it apart due to a hardware RMA.

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cinebench score doesn't improve with faster memory

False the infinity fabric gets better score when that is higher, that scale with memory but only up to 3600MHz for most Zen2 chips. UwU

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I did notice it liked all 16s too..

 

I thought I was just high..


Im not at my computer right now, but I am certain it prefers 16s over my 14 and some 15s. It likes all 14s too, not all of my sticks will do that though.

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Yeah not heck of a lot of difference. Maybe its the newer bios? I didn't have any problems with the one it shipped with.. But I also don't recall getting under 62ns with that one either.

 

Ahh well, its not a deal breaker, I was just hoping I would be able to get a little closer to my 3770K in Aida for latency. Its pretty snappy as is already no complaints.. they are just numbers 😄

 

 

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