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7 minutes ago, Coldharted said:

Budget (including currency): 600 Euros

Country: Netherlands

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mainly gaming (SWBF2, Apex, Rocket League) at 1440p 60Hz, nothing too extreme, don't need super high settings either. 

Other details: I'm currently with family in the UK but will upgrade when I get back to my PC in the Netherlands. I'm upgrading an already budget PC since it needs modernizing, and my 750Ti, although old, can put out more if i upgrade my CPU first (I think it's bottlenecking my GPU) while I wait for the GPU craze to calm down. Under load my CPU is maxed out and my GPU is only 60% maxed, hence the CPU upgrade first. 

 

So I'd like to upgrade the following parts soon:

CPU - Athlon X4 845 --> Ryzen 5 2600

CPU Cooler - Stock? --> MASTERLIQUID ML360R RGB

Motherboard - Asrock FM2A88X Pro3+ --> Asus ROG Strix B450-F Gaming

Case - No idea --> Lian Li PC-O11 DYNAMIC MIDI-TOWER

Case Fans - No idea --> Sharkoon SHARK Blades RGB Fan X 3

The RAM doesn't need upgrading just yet (I'm currently on DDR3 with that mbd) and I'm going to keep running my GT 750-Ti until the GPU market calms down a bit this year. I'll upgrade the PSU alongside the GPU later on. 

 

My two main areas of concern are;

 

1. Will that CPU cooler fit with a top mounted position in the Lian Li? I think it will but I'd like to be sure, I've seen people say it's tricky. If not, front mounting wouldn't be an issue (I guess?).

2. Will the fans (on the CPU cooler and the 3 rgb case fans) be able to fit on the motherboard? I see the Strix B450-F only has 2 X 4-pin AURA rgb headers. I've made sure that the ML360R and the  SHARK Blades both use 4-pin headers, and I know that the ML360R comes with a hub allowing both 3-pin and 4-pin fans. 

 

I've tried to do as much research myself but nothing replaces advice from experienced builders like those at LLT 😉 Thanks in advance people!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok imo your spending way too much on upgrades that don't matter (CPU Cooler, $120 case, overpriced MOBO) by cheaping out on certain things I think this would be a better upgrade. 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor €372.95 @ Megekko
Motherboard ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard €99.90 @ Azerty
Memory Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory €77.85 @ Alternate
Case Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case €87.02 @ Azerty
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €637.72
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-20 15:03 CET+0100  

 

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Budget (including currency): 600 Euros

Country: Netherlands

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mainly gaming (SWBF2, Apex, Rocket League) at 1440p 60Hz, nothing too extreme, don't need super high settings either. 

Other details: I'm currently with family in the UK but will upgrade when I get back to my PC in the Netherlands. I'm upgrading an already budget PC since it needs modernizing, and my 750Ti, although old, can put out more if i upgrade my CPU first (I think it's bottlenecking my GPU) while I wait for the GPU craze to calm down. Under load my CPU is maxed out and my GPU is only 60% maxed, hence the CPU upgrade first. 

 

So I'd like to upgrade the following parts soon:

CPU - Athlon X4 845 --> Ryzen 5 2600

CPU Cooler - Stock? --> MASTERLIQUID ML360R RGB

Motherboard - Asrock FM2A88X Pro3+ --> Asus ROG Strix B450-F Gaming

Case - No idea --> Lian Li PC-O11 DYNAMIC MIDI-TOWER

Case Fans - No idea --> Sharkoon SHARK Blades RGB Fan X 3

The RAM doesn't need upgrading just yet (I'm currently on DDR3 with that mbd) and I'm going to keep running my GT 750-Ti until the GPU market calms down a bit this year. I'll upgrade the PSU alongside the GPU later on. 

 

My two main areas of concern are;

 

1. Will that CPU cooler fit with a top mounted position in the Lian Li? I think it will but I'd like to be sure, I've seen people say it's tricky. If not, front mounting wouldn't be an issue (I guess?).

2. Will the fans (on the CPU cooler and the 3 rgb case fans) be able to fit on the motherboard? I see the Strix B450-F only has 2 X 4-pin AURA rgb headers. I've made sure that the ML360R and the  SHARK Blades both use 4-pin headers, and I know that the ML360R comes with a hub allowing both 3-pin and 4-pin fans. 

 

I've tried to do as much research myself but nothing replaces advice from experienced builders like those at LLT ;) Thanks in advance people!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Coldharted said:

Budget (including currency): 600 Euros

Country: Netherlands

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mainly gaming (SWBF2, Apex, Rocket League) at 1440p 60Hz, nothing too extreme, don't need super high settings either. 

Other details: I'm currently with family in the UK but will upgrade when I get back to my PC in the Netherlands. I'm upgrading an already budget PC since it needs modernizing, and my 750Ti, although old, can put out more if i upgrade my CPU first (I think it's bottlenecking my GPU) while I wait for the GPU craze to calm down. Under load my CPU is maxed out and my GPU is only 60% maxed, hence the CPU upgrade first. 

 

So I'd like to upgrade the following parts soon:

CPU - Athlon X4 845 --> Ryzen 5 2600

CPU Cooler - Stock? --> MASTERLIQUID ML360R RGB

Motherboard - Asrock FM2A88X Pro3+ --> Asus ROG Strix B450-F Gaming

Case - No idea --> Lian Li PC-O11 DYNAMIC MIDI-TOWER

Case Fans - No idea --> Sharkoon SHARK Blades RGB Fan X 3

The RAM doesn't need upgrading just yet (I'm currently on DDR3 with that mbd) and I'm going to keep running my GT 750-Ti until the GPU market calms down a bit this year. I'll upgrade the PSU alongside the GPU later on. 

 

My two main areas of concern are;

 

1. Will that CPU cooler fit with a top mounted position in the Lian Li? I think it will but I'd like to be sure, I've seen people say it's tricky. If not, front mounting wouldn't be an issue (I guess?).

2. Will the fans (on the CPU cooler and the 3 rgb case fans) be able to fit on the motherboard? I see the Strix B450-F only has 2 X 4-pin AURA rgb headers. I've made sure that the ML360R and the  SHARK Blades both use 4-pin headers, and I know that the ML360R comes with a hub allowing both 3-pin and 4-pin fans. 

 

I've tried to do as much research myself but nothing replaces advice from experienced builders like those at LLT 😉 Thanks in advance people!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok imo your spending way too much on upgrades that don't matter (CPU Cooler, $120 case, overpriced MOBO) by cheaping out on certain things I think this would be a better upgrade. 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor €372.95 @ Megekko
Motherboard ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard €99.90 @ Azerty
Memory Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory €77.85 @ Alternate
Case Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case €87.02 @ Azerty
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €637.72
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-20 15:03 CET+0100  

 

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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12 minutes ago, Coldharted said:

CPU Cooler - Stock? --> MASTERLIQUID ML360R RGB

use the stock cooler of the 2600

12 minutes ago, Coldharted said:

Asus ROG Strix B450-F Gaming

pretty bad motherbord, get an msi b450 board 

13 minutes ago, Coldharted said:

The RAM doesn't need upgrading just yet (I'm currently on DDR3 with that mbd

yes you need to upgrade to ddr4. the cpu and motherboard you pick don't support ddr3

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15 minutes ago, Coldharted said:

Sharkoon SHARK Blades RGB Fan

Your motherboard supports 4 pin PWM fans. So you should pick 4 pin PWM fans.
You picked 3 pin fans.

My build:

CPU

Intel Core i7 9700 8x 3.00GHz So.1151

 

CPU cooler

be quiet! Shadow Rock Slim

 

Motherboard

MSI B360-A PRO Intel B360 So.1151 Dual Channel DDR4 ATX

 

RAM

16GB (4x 4096MB) HyperX FURY black DDR4-2666

 

GPU

8GB Gigabyte GeForce RTX2070 WindForce 2X 3xDP/HDMI

 

SSD

500GB Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 2280

 

HDD

4000GB WD Red WD40EFRX Intellipower 64MB 3.5" (8.9cm) SATA 6Gb/s

 

Power Supply

bequiet! Straight Power 750W Platinum

 

Case

Fractal Design Define R6
3x bequiet! Silent Wings 3 PWM

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instead of the 2600 i would go for go for something like a 3600 because its a bit newer and around the same price and with the o11 you should be ok with mounting you aio on the top because the 011 is made for water cooling and as long as you have 5 4pin headers for the five 4pin devices you have you should be fine 

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as mentioned, that cooler is not needed at all, getting a newer cpu and using the stock cooler for it, or use the leftover money to get a better cooler than the stock (not that it's bad it's just not really good)

Anything i've written between the * and * is not meant to be taken seriously.

keep in mind that helping with problems is hard if you aren't specific and detailed.

i'm also not a professional, (yet) so make sure to personally verify important information as i could be wrong.

 

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12 minutes ago, Downkey said:

Ok imo your spending way too much on upgrades that don't matter (CPU Cooler, $120 case, overpriced MOBO) by cheaping out on certain things I think this would be a better upgrade. 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor €372.95 @ Megekko
Motherboard ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard €99.90 @ Azerty
Memory Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory €77.85 @ Alternate
Case Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case €87.02 @ Azerty
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €637.72
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-20 15:03 CET+0100  

 

I see your points, the CPU cooler is overkill and saved money could be thrown into an even better processor. The MOBO; I also see your point. I will say I'm pretty set on that Lian Li case though, I'd like something I can keep for a long time and have on my desk, so I don't mind overspending on the case so much 🙂  Thanks for the reply!

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12 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

use the stock cooler of the 2600

pretty bad motherbord, get an msi b450 board 

yes you need to upgrade to ddr4. the cpu and motherboard you pick don't support ddr3

Ahh I didn't see the RAM issue, thanks for highlighting that! 

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1 hour ago, boggy77 said:

pretty bad motherbord, get an msi b450 board 

 

Some of the MSI B450 boards are worse than the one he has, which is perfectly "eh, whatever" fine middle of the road board albeit likely to be somewhat overpriced because of the Asus Strix branding tax. Certainly the B450-F is more than adequate for running a mere 2600. 

 

Every manufacturer has better and worse models for each chipset, don't just recommend a brand. 

Corps aren't your friends. "Bottleneck calculators" are BS. Only suckers buy based on brand. It's your PC, do what makes you happy.  If your build meets your needs, you don't need anyone else to "rate" it for you. And talking about being part of a "master race" is cringe. Watch this space for further truths people need to hear.

 

Ryzen 7 5800X3D | ASRock X570 PG Velocita | PowerColor Red Devil RX 6900 XT | 4x8GB Crucial Ballistix 3600mt/s CL16

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23 minutes ago, Middcore said:

 

Some of the MSI B450 boards are worse than the one he has, which is perfectly "eh, whatever" fine middle of the road board albeit likely to be somewhat overpriced because of the Asus Strix branding tax. Certainly the B450-F is more than adequate for running a mere 2600. 

 

Every manufacturer has better and worse models for each chipset, don't just recommend a brand. 

you're right, i was in a hurry.

 

msi b450m mortar max

msi b450 gaming plus

msi b450 a-pro

msi b450 tomahaw

msi b450 gaming pro carbon

 

but anyway, only get these if you're going for the 2600. 

for the 3600 or 5600x, get a b550 board.

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