RTX 3060 Ti or RTX 3070?

[Oliver_W]

Hi there,

I am looking into purchasing a new graphics card to replace my GTX 970 with either a RTX 3060 Ti or the RTX 3070. However, I am not sure which one to go for. The reason for the upgrade is that my current card can't run the main application I run (Lockheed Martin's Prepar3D v5), and it always runs out of VRAM. I've heard that RTX 2080 Super's crash and run out of VRAM, so which card would be better to go for. Ideally I would get an RX 6800, but at the current UK prices they're way too much money for me.

Many thanks, from Oliver

[Jrasero]

3060 Ti

[Mark Kaine]

if you need the VRAM go with AMD or wait for Nvidia refresh with rumored 12-20GB.

 

3060ti /70 have the same extremely low amount of VRAM as the 2080 super, meager 8Gigs  ☠ 

 

 

 

PS: really looks like 6800 are sold out anywhere or 1000 euros minimum ... 

 

 

 

[GoodEnough]

2 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

meager 8Gigs 

its not that bad considering the vram itself should be faster

 

[Oliver_W]

9 minutes ago, GoodEnough said:

its not that bad considering the vram itself should be faster

 

But even with the faster VRAM, would that still be enough?

[jaslion]

15 minutes ago, GoodEnough said:

its not that bad considering the vram itself should be faster

 

Faster vram doesn't matter it's not gonna fix the issue of it not having that much. Like mid range 3 year old cards had 8gb too.

[Mark Kaine]

5 minutes ago, Oliver_W said:

But even with the faster VRAM, would that still be enough?

Nope, at least for games it doesn't help much, if more than 8GB are required you'll run into issues or crash! (tested it myself with the masterful remake of Resident Evil 3...)

[F1nnegan]

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[Oliver_W]

13 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

Nope, at least for games it doesn't help much, if more than 8GB are required you'll run into issues or crash! (tested it myself with the masterful remake of Resident Evil 3...)

So I've been looking around at the expected specs of the 3070Ti, and they're estimating 10GB of VRAM, so from that I'm thinking even the 3070Ti wont be enough

[Mark Kaine]

18 minutes ago, Oliver_W said:

So I've been looking around at the expected specs of the 3070Ti, and they're estimating 10GB of VRAM, so from that I'm thinking even the 3070Ti wont be enough

Who knows though - there has to be some minimum / recommended specs for the software you're using, you should probably check that to be sure. 

[Oliver_W]

4 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

Who knows though - there has to be some minimum / recommended specs for the software you're using, you should probably check that to be sure. 

The devs recommend 8GB of VRAM or More with the base game, but because I will be running so many more addons on the software, it will easily crash out with 8 GB VRAM, and it even crashes out with 11GB 2080Ti's fairly often as well

[Mark Kaine]

6 minutes ago, Oliver_W said:

The devs recommend 8GB of VRAM or More with the base game, but because I will be running so many more addons on the software, it will easily crash out with 8 GB VRAM, and it even crashes out with 11GB 2080Ti's fairly often as well

This is actually incorrect (looked it up) recommended is 8GB +

 

 

 

which is why you're running into issues with only 8Gigs... 

 

So yes a 2070ti with 10GB should be totally fine (note the 2080ti has 11GB, but recommended is anything "above" 8GB...)

 

PS: about the 2080 ti crashing, I see... so I would really try to get a 6800 /xt or wait it out, but new Nvidia cards won't be much cheaper or anything either. 

[Middcore]

3060 ti. The performance edge of the 3070 is not enough to justify paying extra. 

[Oliver_W]

Just now, Mark Kaine said:

This is actually incorrect (looked it up) recommended is 8GB +

 

 

 

which is why you're running into issues with only 8Gigs... 

 

So yes a 2070ti with 10GB should be totally fine (note the 2080ti has 11GB, but required is anything "above" 8GB...)

Basically, In Prepar3D, the base game itself will be fine with 8GB. However, when you install addons for the simulator, like better textures, new DLC's which use much higher amounts of VRAM, then the threshold will increase massively. The Prepar3D is more like a framework, of which you then install loads of modules on to build it up.

[Mark Kaine]

1 minute ago, Oliver_W said:

Basically, In Prepar3D, the base game itself will be fine with 8GB. However, when you install addons for the simulator, like better textures, new DLC's which use much higher amounts of VRAM, then the threshold will increase massively. The Prepar3D is more like a framework, of which you then install loads of modules on to build it up.

yeah, I figure, so either AMD 16GB or wait for Nvidia refresh... or a 3090 I guess... 

 

Btw can't you like just lower settings or something? might not be an option though

[Oliver_W]

1 minute ago, Mark Kaine said:

yeah, I figure, so either AMD 16GB or wait for Nvidia refresh... or a 3090 I guess... 

 

Btw can't you like just lower settings or something? might not be an option though

On my current GTX 970, even with low settings, I can rarely run the application for more than a few hours without a crash. So far then, it looks like it will probably be the RX6800

[braydenaiden10]

If I were you I would wait to see more 3060 benchmarks and then see if 12 gigs of vram with hope for your application but also look at the 3060 TI at the application as well Overall I would wait to see if the extra be around were to help In your application with the 3060 But if you can afford a 3090 it has 24 gigs of vram so you got to think of that too 
 

[SquiddyButler]

On 1/11/2021 at 10:58 AM, Oliver_W said:

Hi there,

I am looking into purchasing a new graphics card to replace my GTX 970 with either a RTX 3060 Ti or the RTX 3070. However, I am not sure which one to go for. The reason for the upgrade is that my current card can't run the main application I run (Lockheed Martin's Prepar3D v5), and it always runs out of VRAM. I've heard that RTX 2080 Super's crash and run out of VRAM, so which card would be better to go for. Ideally I would get an RX 6800, but at the current UK prices they're way too much money for me.

Many thanks, from Oliver

They are kinda the same, just that the 3070 has around 10+ more fps. So if you want 10 more frames for 100$ more go for it