3080 Cyberpunk Horribly low FPS (3080)

[Jiehfeng]

2 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Same resolution, exact same settings?  Same ram configuration?  

 

Based on what I just read in the last 5 minutes on this thread, is that disabling SMT increased per core usage being used.  Makes sense.  Now we have increased frames with higher lows and less recovery.  Makes sense.  Now lets increase our lows - what is your infinity fabric settings and RAM frequency and CL?  Tighten this all up and we can continue to overcome the software issue with hardware optimization.

I found someone that has better performance than me and actually has full GPU usage, not sure if the RAM is the same though, but the CPU and GPU are the same, as well as the resolution.

 

[SgtHeisenberg]

7 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Same resolution, exact same settings?  Same ram configuration?  

 

Based on what I just read in the last 5 minutes on this thread, is that disabling SMT increased per core usage being used.  Makes sense.  Now we have increased frames with higher lows and less recovery.  Makes sense.  Now lets increase our lows - what is your infinity fabric settings and RAM frequency and CL?  Tighten this all up and we can continue to overcome the software issue with hardware optimization.

Right now I can't test it just yet but will do later, my RAM is 3600 CL19. Thanks in advance!

[Jonanien]

Kind of a long shot, which store's version is everyone using here?
I've heard that the GOG version has better performance..
I'm using the Steam version atm but i'm gonna try the GOG version for a comparison

[Sekiberius]

2 hours ago, Jiehfeng said:

It's all over the place for me.

 

I found a working solution to get much better FPS, go to the main menu of cyberpunk and turn texture quality to medium. game looks a bit worse but I get over a hundred fps no issue now.

[Mark Kaine]

1 hour ago, SgtHeisenberg said:

Looks basically exactly like mine

 

24 minutes ago, SgtHeisenberg said:

benchmarks of other people with the same hardware

 

Ah, hmm... 

 

 

 

 

So first of all he's saying he gets drops to ~45 fps, and also suggests some DLSS settings, have you tried those? 

And secondly, this isn't a "benchmark" at all, it is a youtube video. 

 

I'm not saying you couldn't optimize it more, but I doubt it's a hardware issue, and also it doesn't look like it's running "much better" for others as it's just a shoddy, badly optimized  port and behaves as such, for everyone. 

 

 

 

 

[Jiehfeng]

10 minutes ago, Sekiberius said:

I found a working solution to get much better FPS, go to the main menu of cyberpunk and turn texture quality to medium. game looks a bit worse but I get over a hundred fps no issue now.

Just tried that and I get the exact same performance as before, no change. And it looks bad.

[SgtHeisenberg]

6 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

 

 

Ah, hmm... 

 

 

 

 

So first of all he's saying he gets drops to ~45 fps, and also suggests some DLSS settings, have you tried those? 

And secondly, this isn't a "benchmark" at all, it is a youtube video. 

 

I'm not saying you couldn't optimize it more, but I doubt it's a hardware issue, and also it doesn't look like it's running "much better" for others as it's just a shoddy, badly optimized  port and behaves as such, for everyone. 

 

I've tried DLSS Performance and Ultra Performance, doesn't change anything. But my point isn't just that it's not running well overall but actually my fps don't change even if I'm switching to 1440p or even 1080p which doesn't make any sense. I can also use Ultra settings or Low settings and the performance is exactly the same. Also, when I said 'benchmarks' I wasn't talking about that video but about benchmarks from HardwareUnboxed, GN, GameStar, Tom's Hardware etc.

[Tristerin]

21 minutes ago, Jiehfeng said:

I found someone that has better performance than me and actually has full GPU usage, not sure if the RAM is the same though, but the CPU and GPU are the same, as well as the resolution.

 

 

I havent seen you mention your specs?  It appears he is running an overclocked configuration based on the first few seconds of the video

[Tristerin]

18 minutes ago, SgtHeisenberg said:

Right now I can't test it just yet but will do later, my RAM is 3600 CL19. Thanks in advance!

Tighten up your CL with manual overclocking and I bet you notice quite a gain on performance when it comes to the lows you are seeing.

[Jiehfeng]

2 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

 

I havent seen you mention your specs?  It appears he is running an overclocked configuration based on the first few seconds of the video

My bad.

 

Specs:

Ryzen 5 3600X

MSI Ventus OC RTX 3080

32GB 3200MHz Dual Channel RAM

ASUS TUF B450 Plus Gaming

Samsung 970 EVO SSD

 

What has he overclocked? I don't notice anything, but he does have 90%+ GPU usage so something is up.

[Tristerin]

5 minutes ago, Jiehfeng said:

My bad.

 

Specs:

Ryzen 5 3600X

MSI Ventus OC RTX 3080

32GB 3200MHz Dual Channel RAM

ASUS TUF B450 Plus Gaming

Samsung 970 EVO SSD

 

What has he overclocked? I don't notice anything, but he does have 90%+ GPU usage so something is up.

He has an all core 4.0ghz on the CPU, and the GPU is overclocked (the overlay shows all of that)

[Jiehfeng]

3 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

He has an all core 4.0ghz on the CPU, and the GPU is overclocked

Mine idles at 4.0GHz but I'm guessing that's not on all cores then? And I don't think the GPU is OC'd, I have the same clocks as him and I haven't OC'd, both on core and memory.

 

See mine, same-ish clocks:

[Tristerin]

6 minutes ago, Jiehfeng said:

Mine idles at 4.0GHz but I'm guessing that's not on all cores then? And I don't think the GPU is OC'd, I have the same clocks as him and I haven't OC'd, both on core and memory.

Advertised boost clock of a 3080 is 1710mhz, his is displaying 1900mhz +  Im not sure on the memory but he is monitoring it so I am assuming its overclocked, and his is showing an all core overclock (each core) at 4.0ghz which is not how Ryzen CPUs work stock

 

EDIT (I run a 4.2ghz all core on a 1700...keeps up with the 3600 due to this, for example, its why people overclock)

EDIT 2 (I have 2 1700's one OCd one stock sitting next to me, the difference is quite large - both have same GPU's, Ive got multiple DDR4 kits between 2133mhz - 3600mhz CL14-CL18 and there are lots of gains to be had with overclocking)

[Jiehfeng]

3 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Advertised boost clock of a 3080 is 1710mhz, his is displaying 1900mhz +  Im not sure on the memory but he is monitoring it so I am assuming its overclocked, and his is showing an all core overclock (each core) at 4.0ghz which is not how Ryzen CPUs work stock

 

EDIT (I run a 4.2ghz all core on a 1700...keeps up with the 3600 due to this, for example, its why people overclock)

That's just the boost algorithm, see my post again, I edited it with my stock clock readings.

[Tristerin]

14 minutes ago, Jiehfeng said:

That's just the boost algorithm, see my post again, I edited it with my stock clock readings.

Without deep diving the numbers (leaving the house soon) - his CPU is absolutely overclocked.  If you want more GPU usage you have to provide more frame time (from the CPU) and the easiest way to do this is with overclocking entire CPU package.  Boost on a CPU is 1 core.  For your 3600x you would be running 1 core at 4.4ghz when boosted (boost can change, an all core overclock is static) and the rest at 3.8ghz when utilized.  All core keeps frequency at peak so there is a marginally quicker response time as well, and when gaming (building 1 second frame times) this can provide quite the boost.

 

EDIT - if we are going to compare apples, it has to be to apples.  Personally I have two 1700 rigs, Ive done quite extensive testing on.  All things are equal only when all things are equal.  My $136 new 1700, overclocked....absolutely stomps a 1700x for example

 

EDIT - and beats a stock 2700x rendering (pulled from reddit CineR20 thread just to be used as an example)

[Kilrah]

Most of these videos showcasing performance run overclocked parts, it's normal to get less performance if you stay stock. 

[Jiehfeng]

1 hour ago, Tristerin said:

Without deep diving the numbers (leaving the house soon) - his CPU is absolutely overclocked.  If you want more GPU usage you have to provide more frame time (from the CPU) and the easiest way to do this is with overclocking entire CPU package.  Boost on a CPU is 1 core.  For your 3600x you would be running 1 core at 4.4ghz when boosted (boost can change, an all core overclock is static) and the rest at 3.8ghz when utilized.  All core keeps frequency at peak so there is a marginally quicker response time as well, and when gaming (building 1 second frame times) this can provide quite the boost.

 

EDIT - if we are going to compare apples, it has to be to apples.  Personally I have two 1700 rigs, Ive done quite extensive testing on.  All things are equal only when all things are equal.  My $136 new 1700, overclocked....absolutely stomps a 1700x for example

 

EDIT - and beats a stock 2700x rendering (pulled from reddit CineR20 thread just to be used as an example)

Are you saying I should overclock? How much would it boost fps from say 43fps?

 

51 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Most of these videos showcasing performance run overclocked parts, it's normal to get less performance if you stay stock. 

Maybe but it doesn't change the fact that there is next to no performance difference when going from Low to Ultra RT and using DLSS or not. There is something wrong with the game.

[Tristerin]

36 minutes ago, Jiehfeng said:

There is something wrong with the game.

This is a correct statement based on my observations around the web.

 

Yes it will help (overclocking, if you have the cooling to tame the heat and voltages its free performance), but there is only so much overcoming bad software optimization.

[Jiehfeng]

38 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

This is a correct statement based on my observations around the web.

 

Yes it will help (overclocking, if you have the cooling to tame the heat and voltages its free performance), but there is only so much overcoming bad software optimization.

Quick question, why are my overclocks not allowing the PC to post? I set the core voltage offset to 0.0375+ which should add to the displayed 1.1v to get 1.1375v, I didn't alter the SOC voltage and left it at auto, then I changed the core offset to 42. It didn't post, did I start too high? I also tried 0.04375+ with 43 core. Does it have to be gradual to work? I'll try to keep this particular discussion short to not go offtopic.

[Tristerin]

9 minutes ago, Jiehfeng said:

Quick question, why are my overclocks not allowing the PC to post? I set the core voltage offset to 0.0375+ which should add to the displayed 1.1v to get 1.1375v, I didn't alter the SOC voltage and left it at auto, then I changed the core offset to 42. It didn't post, did I start too high? I also tried 0.04375+ with 43 core. Does it have to be gradual to work? I'll try to keep this particular discussion short to not go offtopic.

Quick question, why are my overclocks not allowing the PC to post? - Nothing is guaranteed past spec

 

What is your cooling solution on the CPU?  Also there are tons of guides on overclocking that CPU Id look into those.  After looking at a couple quickly I would try 4.2ghz @ 1.35vCore initially.  If you can post, is it stable and do you have the cooling solution capable of keeping it cool:

 

Run CinebenchR20 and Firestrike (both free) if you pass then look to either dial down the voltage or dial up the frequency incrementally until unstable.  Play with both.  I dial the voltage in straight not with offsets.  SOC voltage is for the I/O (RAM overclocking) etc.  

[Pringles99]

also having a problem with fps, got a 2070 super and the game only does about 70-80 fps with all settings on low, friend has the same card and gets about 90 fps on mid-high

[SgtHeisenberg]

A redditor seems to have found a simple way to allow Ryzen CPUs to use SMT correctly and therefore reduce the bottleneck by allowing the game to use all threads more evenly:

I haven't been able to test it myself yet but seems like a lot of people have much better CPU utilization among all threads now and much better frame times and fps as a result.

[Jonanien]

17 minutes ago, SgtHeisenberg said:

A redditor seems to have found a simple way to allow Ryzen CPUs to use SMT correctly and therefore reduce the bottleneck by allowing the game to use all threads more evenly:

I haven't been able to test it myself yet but seems like a lot of people have much better CPU utilization among all threads now and much better frame times and fps as a result.

This man saved my life

[Darkshadlok]

On 12/11/2020 at 2:02 PM, Toiletnopaper said:

Low FPS, low GPU CPU utilization. No matter what settings I use (Medium/High), it stays within the 30-60 FPS range.

Hardware:

* CPU: Processor AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core Processor, 3700 Mhz

* GPU: RTX 3080 AORUS

* RAM: 16GB

* STORAGE: SSD 3TB

* RESOLUTION (+ TARGET FPS): 3440 x 1440

* PLATFORM: Steam

GPU Clock: 1900Mhz
GPU utilization:10-30%
CPU Clock: 3966 MHz
CPU utilization: 40-50%

I tried using Windows update, using DDU to reinstall drivers, installing driver through GeForce experience, installing driver by downloading it from the site, installing driver in C and D drive, installing the game in C and D drive, installing GeForce experience, not installing GeForce experience, using G sync, turning off G sync, turning on/off Max FPS, setting Nvidia Control Panel for CP2077 programs with various recommendations on Youtube.

This is driving me absolutely nuts that the FPS usually floats around 30-60 FPS, not playable in gun fights.

Same issue here

[SgtHeisenberg]

9 minutes ago, Jonanien said:

This man saved my life

Does it work for you too?