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Order of 1000 PS5(s) is taken down by retailer

Acid Panda
7 minutes ago, jagdtigger said:

Not 100% legal because there are off limit zones. And it is a bad example for a business, its really short sighted and causes a lot of collateral damage. As for ethics everyone with a spine wont condone this.

I'm not sure what you mean off limit zones. The only thing I can think of is getting around household purchase limits. From a business standpoint it's phenomenal. You can get a 200+% return on your investment in less than 24 hours. That's great business not terrible 

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The point is I guess that “release dates” for GPUs have apparently always been mostly bogus and this year is no different.  The scalping is apparently new, but the lack of availability and the extreme unrealistic  lowness of the claimed MSRP is not.

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I'm a little disgusted by how people are overreacting about this, especially in today's current state; there's a pandemic, and millions of people are likely to lose the houses over their heads. A luxury item like this isn't necessary. Unfortunate that you can't buy it? Sure. There's other things you can spend money on if you feel the need. Just wait a couple months, and there will be loads in stock.

 

Which brings me to my other thought. I wonder if this will be a one off thing. While these sites (the ones with bots for scalping etc) are huge in the sneaker community, the difference is that the sneakers are limited run. There's only so many to get. Thus, their value is significantly higher. Sony isn't going to stop making consoles. They're going to keep pumping them out, and as they do, the potential risk to the scalper multiplies. It's also not something that usually takes long to produce, except for right now because of COVID, so IMO this is going to be the first of two attempts we see at this. They might try again with the next release, to see if it plays out well for them again, but supply chains will be significantly stronger and their flip window greatly reduced.

 

Either way, scalpers exist. Little is going to change that. They'll tax those that are well off enough to simply pay the extra without a second thought, and those that are stupid enough to pay the inflated pricing even though they can't really afford it. If you wanted one of these items, just wait a few months and you'll get on at retail.

 

 

On 12/3/2020 at 1:24 AM, Brooksie359 said:

No not really true at all. There are laws against scalpers in key areas for products during emergencies and natural disasters so scalpers are prevented even though there would still be an economic incentive to scalp emergency supplies. If they had laws against scalping then this would easily stop. Unfortunately current scalping laws are limited to emergencies and natural disasters and are only on essential products not luxury goods like a console. 

Which is where they should stay. It's a slippery slope. If you start policing pricing on everything, then you have government setting values on all items, and eventually it'd lead to a quasi-dictatorship of sorts.

On 12/3/2020 at 3:07 AM, jagdtigger said:

I hope the store also got word to the tax agency too so they can have "fun" with the scalper regarding how he/she got the funding for doing this.... :D

Unlikely. The chances that it was a single person are extremely low. The cost for a tax agency to go after someone who bought only a few consoles doesn't make financial sense, and they have much larger fish they should have their eyes set on.

On 12/4/2020 at 12:57 PM, Beskamir said:

I'd consider those laws to be anti-capitalistic.

 

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In terms of necessities during a pandemic (which I believe is what you were referring to), it's necessary though.

I mean, I get it if you're talking about the bare facts of capitalistic vs not. But I think we can all agree there are lines that should exist. I don't believe that's the case here though; if you have people willing to pay more for a luxury good, then go at it. You don't need a PS to live, and it won't greatly diminish your quality of life if you don't have one.

On 12/5/2020 at 12:03 AM, Letgomyleghoe said:

the thing is, the demand pre 2000's was nowhere near what it is today, the amount of people building their own PC's has skyrocketed, the amount of pc users has skyrocketed, Online retail has made it easier to buy, shipping to more people along with internet access in places that didn't have it etc, has increased demand in insane amount.

Especially right now with the pandemic.

There's quite a few factors as to why scalping is such an issue and supply is so low right now. Where there's low supply and high demand, this is to be expected, sadly. It's the same with virtually anything that isn't a necessity. Just look at the prices of any low production vehicle.

On 12/5/2020 at 11:53 AM, SteveGrabowski0 said:

Nintendo was notorious for stuff like this in the 1980s. It didn't all start once the millennium flipped. Then I remember how hard it was to find a PS1 back when it came out. None of this is new.

IIRC it's been like that with every PS launch hasn't it? I remember people lined up around the block at the BestBuy I worked near for the PS4. It was also in short supply.

On 12/5/2020 at 1:04 PM, AlwaysWong said:

My local area offerup have tons of xbox series x and ps5 on sale for $800 - $1000. Fuck these people. I hope no one will going to spend that much money on these scalper consoles because you know you can't file for warranty without proof of purchase. 

That's the issue though. There's clearly enough people that are willing to pay that price, and have the means.

15 hours ago, RejZoR said:

"I bought 4 on my credit card" XD Well, if you bought just 1 and used it yourself, you weren't in such dire need to sell them quickly lmao

I find it odd that anyone would be in a hurry. I mean, chances are at most you'd lose $300 (in this scenario), and if you couldn't flip them in 2ish weeks, just return it to the retailer 🤷‍♂️ At this point I'd bet even if it were past the return window, they'd still take it back since they know they can resell it easily.

1 hour ago, Bombastinator said:

The point is I guess that “release dates” for GPUs have apparently always been mostly bogus and this year is no different.  The scalping is apparently new, but the lack of availability and the extreme unrealistic  lowness of the claimed MSRP is not.

There has always been scalping, but there hasn't always been supply chain issues like we see now.

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