Is this list best bang for buck for my friend's budget? Or are there better alternatives for it?

[Ihavenoideaonpc]

Budget (including currency): 1350

Country: Australia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Just games really 

Other details: 

Hello, a friend of mine needs advice advice on a budget pc of under 1350 AUD (Cannot go overboard) and so I made this parts list and went over here to see if any improvements can be made. (Sorry if it gives you cancer, I don't know much about bottlenecking and stuff). Anyway here is the list.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$228.00 @ Device Deal
Motherboard	ASRock B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard	$140.00 @ Kogan
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$125.00 @ Umart
Storage	Team GX2 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$75.99 @ Mwave Australia
Video Card	ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Phantom Gaming D OC Video Card	$579.00 @ Centre Com
Case	Deepcool MATREXX 50 ADD-RGB 4F ATX Mid Tower Case	$79.00 @ PCCaseGear
Power Supply	EVGA BQ 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$119.90 @ Newegg Australia
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1346.89
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-01 16:06 AEDT+1100

 

[Coolmaster]

I just made this list

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($228.00 @ Device Deal) 
Motherboard: ASRock B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($140.00 @ Kogan) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($95.00 @ PC Byte) 
Storage: Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($87.10 @ Amazon Australia) 
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB TUF Gaming X3 EVO OC Video Card  ($579.00 @ Centre Com) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  ($97.90 @ Newegg Australia) 
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.90 @ Newegg Australia) 
Total: $1346.90
 

IT's pretty similar but better.

 

The memory is the same speed but cheaper, a NVMe drive will be faster than a SATA SSD for not that much more, the cooler on this model is slightly better than the one you chose, and the case I chose has much better airflow but its a matter of ascetics if you don't like the look of it you can choose a different one.

[Fasauceome]

You can get less expensive ram and mobo and case, as well as CPU, and get a better PSU and more storage.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$158.12 @ Amazon Australia
Motherboard	Gigabyte B450M S2H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$97.78 @ JW Computers
Memory	PNY Anarchy-X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$86.93 @ Amazon Australia
Storage	Western Digital Blue 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$140.61 @ Amazon Australia
Video Card	ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Phantom Gaming D OC Video Card	$579.00 @ Centre Com
Case	Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case	$65.00 @ BPC Technology
Power Supply	Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$99.00 @ Umart
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1226.44
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-01 16:23 AEDT+1100

 

 

[Bombastinator]

Not sure a 500w will work well for a5700xt and a ryzen2 chip. Not because it’s not enough average current. The problem is they both have momentary power spiking behavior.  AMD recommends 650w for 5700xt.  If both cpu and gpu spike at the same time it could pop the over current.

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Not sure a 500w will work well for a5700xt and a ryzen2 chip. Not because it’s not enough average current. The problem is they both have momentary power spiking behavior.  AMD recommends 650w for 5700xt.  If both cpu and gpu spike at the same time it could pop the over current.

For Vega that was the case but the RX 5000 series doesn't have problems with transient power draw

[Bombastinator]

3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

For Vega that was the case but the RX 5000 series doesn't have problems with transient power draw

Could be I suppose.  I didn’t have any issues for the brief time I owned one, but I got a big PSU. I heard the spike thing was a problem for anything that boosts a lot. I’m talking very very short duration stuff. Fractions of a second. Stuff so short you need higher end equipment to even detect it.  Two pieces of evidence:  the strange increase in PSU failure in troubleshooting forums, and this post by a chinese dude (who did have the equipment) talking about it.  Electricity travels at more or less the speed of light.  I could see a monitor program not seeing it but a PSU popping anyway.

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Could be I suppose.  I didn’t have any issues for the brief time I owned one, but I got a big PSU. I heard the spike thing was a problem for anything that boosts a lot. I’m talking very very short duration stuff. Fractions of a second. Stuff so short you need higher end equipment to even detect it.  Two pieces of evidence:  the strange increase in PSU failure in troubleshooting forums, and this post by a chinese dude (who did have the equipment) talking about it.  Electricity travels at more or less the speed of light.  I could see a monitor program not seeing it but a PSU popping anyway.

Only 5700 SKUs or all navi? My roommate is currently running a CX 550 and 5600XT with a ryzen 5 2600 (overclocked)

[Bombastinator]

2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Only 5700 SKUs or all navi? My roommate is currently running a CX 550 and 5600XT with a ryzen 5 2600 (overclocked)

Everything that’s new. CPU or GPU.  part of it is how fast the over current protection is on a given PSU.  They’re apparently that short.

[Fasauceome]

Just now, Bombastinator said:

Everything that’s new. CPU or GPU.  part of it is how fast the over current protection is on a given PSU.  They’re apparently that short.

I recall @LukeSavenijetries to avoid letting PSUs with bad transient response into the A tier of the tier list but since it's not one of the explicit criteria maybe it's not a factor here

[Bombastinator]

16 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

I recall @LukeSavenijetries to avoid letting PSUs with bad transient response into the A tier of the tier list but since it's not one of the explicit criteria maybe it's not a factor here

Might not be.  I don’t know that the 500 won’t work. It would require an unlikely event to occur.  The thing is though that if you do something often enough unlikely events eventually happen.  Cancer isn’t just an unlikely event it’s a series of unlikely events.  Conventional wisdom though says everyone who lives long enough will eventually get cancer though.  It’s not a question of if they will get it, it’s if something else gets them first.  Even if the spike thing is an issue and the PSU can’t handle it the machine might live out it’s life and never see it.

Edited November 1, 2020 by Bombastinator

[chaosys]

Hi,

Prizes in down under are really crazy, all over the place. The build looks ok to me. Maybe consider a 3100X to free up some Budget for 1TB SSD like a A2000 or a SN550. 500GB are really small these days. GTA5 oder red dead redemption easily take 90 GB each.  

You could although think about a R5 3600 and a 5600x. The 3300x might a little Bottleneck for the 5700xt. Additionally changing a graphicscard in the future is pretty easy while changing cpu is more of a hassle.

[LukeSavenije]

6 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

I recall @LukeSavenijetries to avoid letting PSUs with bad transient response into the A tier of the tier list but since it's not one of the explicit criteria maybe it's not a factor here

we do indeed require it to be within ATX specification for 12v and 5v for tier A, but if you mean transient shutdowns, they get moved to low priority when discovered to be a wider problem

[dizmo]

I'd honestly wait until video cards are more available and get one of the newer ones, or if you're going with the old gen, buy a used one. They're simply not worth paying retail for. What games does he play? You're going to rapidly run out of space with a 512GB drive.