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480GB vs 512GB SSD

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3 minutes ago, dhannemon13 said:

Well, I'm planning to get this Pioneer APS-SL3 SSD, yet I'm confused of should I get the 512GB capacity but.. Potentially not having any kind of over-provisioning since it's basically a NAND flash size of square by 2, right?

 

I tend to need more reliability than space nowadays. And don't tell of another recommendation as the budget's enough only for the range of this SSD. I'll use it for secondary storage, mostly apps and games.

There is still overprovisioning, since NAND flash chips are fabricated in binary multiples; so the actual chip capacity might be 512 GiB (512 × 1024³ or 549,755,814,888 B) while the usable capacity is set to 512 GB (512,000,000,000 B).

Well, I'm planning to get this Pioneer APS-SL3 SSD, yet I'm confused of should I get the 512GB capacity but.. Potentially not having any kind of over-provisioning since it's basically a NAND flash size of square by 2, right?

 

I tend to need more reliability than space nowadays. And don't tell of another recommendation as the budget's enough only for the range of this SSD. I'll use it for secondary storage, mostly apps and games.

Humor me, as you should do.

 

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AFAIK they all overprovision, it's just that some decide to put 512GB of flash and take some for OP, and some want to sell a "512GB usable" drive and put extra flash for OP.

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I'm not familiar with either of these ssd's but I tend to reccomend a 512gb as the minimum size so I would go with the 512gb ssd as opposed to the 480gb one.

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3 minutes ago, dhannemon13 said:

Well, I'm planning to get this Pioneer APS-SL3 SSD, yet I'm confused of should I get the 512GB capacity but.. Potentially not having any kind of over-provisioning since it's basically a NAND flash size of square by 2, right?

 

I tend to need more reliability than space nowadays. And don't tell of another recommendation as the budget's enough only for the range of this SSD. I'll use it for secondary storage, mostly apps and games.

There is still overprovisioning, since NAND flash chips are fabricated in binary multiples; so the actual chip capacity might be 512 GiB (512 × 1024³ or 549,755,814,888 B) while the usable capacity is set to 512 GB (512,000,000,000 B).

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Dont' worry about it, some brand use no over provisioning, that means you need to control it by yourself.

Always leave at least 10-20% empty space when using SSD, and you'll be fine.

 

5 minutes ago, kucharczykt said:

I'm not familiar with either of these ssd's but I tend to reccomend a 512gb as the minimum size so I would go with the 512gb ssd as opposed to the 480gb one.

samsung's SSD size is 500GB btw. so it doesn't fit your requirements yes?

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1 minute ago, SupaKomputa said:

Dont' worry about it, some brand use no over provisioning, that means you need to control it by yourself.

Always leave at least 10-20% empty space when using SSD, and you'll be fine.

 

samsung's SSD size is 500GB btw. so it doesn't fit your requirements yes?

Many ssd manufacturers minimum size is 512, 500gb would be satisfactory in fact I have a 500gb 980pro in my system.

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9 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

AFAIK they all overprovision, it's just that some decide to put 512GB of flash and take some for OP, and some want to sell a "512GB usable" drive and put extra flash for OP.

 

1 minute ago, Glenwing said:

There is still overprovisioning, since NAND flash chips are fabricated in binary multiples; so the actual chip capacity might be 512 GiB (512 × 1024³ or 549,755,814,888 B) while the usable capacity is set to 512 GB (512,000,000,000 B).

 

5 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Dont' worry about it, some brand use no over provisioning, that means you need to control it by yourself.

Always leave at least 10-20% empty space when using SSD, and you'll be fine.

Okay. So it'd be safe to get the 512 then.

And thanks for the insight about the bits and bytes of the chip tho @Glenwing. Totally unaware of that before lol

 

 

6 minutes ago, kucharczykt said:

I'm not familiar with either of these ssd's but I tend to reccomend a 512gb as the minimum size so I would go with the 512gb ssd as opposed to the 480gb one.

Well they're the one that's cheap enough to be inside of lots of SSD tier list and still listed as the good low-budget one, tho (at least for secondary storage), including LTT's.

 

Funnily it's cheaper than lots of 'dunno-tf-is-dis-brand' SSDs tbh.

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120 GB WD Green M.2 SATA SSD + 480 GB Pioneer APS-SL3N SATA SSD

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Some old computer laying around as my HTPC

Intel Pentium Dual Core E2160 1.8GHz || (fake lol) NVIDIA GeForce GT730 2GB DDR3

Some random old motherboard. Works fine tho.

512 MB + 512 MB random DDR memory

40GB IDE HDD + 1 TB old laptop SATA HDD, got bad sector unfortunately

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12 minutes ago, kucharczykt said:

Many ssd manufacturers minimum size is 512, 500gb would be satisfactory in fact I have a 500gb 980pro in my system.

What are you saying exactly?

What is minimum size? What about 128, 256?

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2 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

What are you saying exactly?

What is minimum size? What about 128, 256?

Well even there's a lot of (old and used) server 16 GB SSDs either.

Probably he meant the minimum on the 500 GB-ish segment.

Humor me, as you should do.

 

Daily drivers:

 

Acer Aspire E5-475G

Intel Core i5-7200U 2.5 GHz (Turbo 3.1 GHz) || NVIDIA GeForce 940MX 2GB

4GB Micron DDR4 + 4GB Team Group DDR4 PC19200

120 GB WD Green M.2 SATA SSD + 480 GB Pioneer APS-SL3N SATA SSD

Windows 10 Single Language x64

 

Some old computer laying around as my HTPC

Intel Pentium Dual Core E2160 1.8GHz || (fake lol) NVIDIA GeForce GT730 2GB DDR3

Some random old motherboard. Works fine tho.

512 MB + 512 MB random DDR memory

40GB IDE HDD + 1 TB old laptop SATA HDD, got bad sector unfortunately

Linux Mint 20 Ulyana Xfce x64

Some old TCL CRT TV laying around + RCA to HDMI converter

 

Xiaomi Redmi Note 8

4GB RAM, 64GB Internal Storage 

64GB SanDisk Ultra (80MB/s Read) External Storage

MIUI 11 Global

Aukey Turbo Charger PA-U28 QC2.0 + Aukey CB-CD4 PVC Type-C Cable

 

Audio

Some random home-theater speakers I took freely from someplace and big-ass bass with old computer speaker amplifier. It sounds good af tho.

dbE DJ100 Headphone

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3 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

What are you saying exactly?

What is minimum size? What about 128, 256?

For any drive that's not just a boot drive I dont like to use anything less than 500gb

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