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Quick question, would the best gaming pc also be the best 3D rendering pc? I'm mainly wondering if the i9 9900ks is going to be worth the extra couple gigahertz for 3D rendering. If not what sort of spec should I be looking for a 3D rendering build? 

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5 minutes ago, kucharczykt said:

3D rendering

Are you doing this for fun, or as a career?

So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds

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6 minutes ago, kucharczykt said:

Quick question, would the best gaming pc also be the best 3D rendering pc?

no because different rendering software are best with different balance of CPU speed, GPU performance, RAM speed and capacity and storage space. A gaming rig wouldnt be too bad of a 3D rendering PC, but for those doing work rather than for fun they should be built differently.

 

8 minutes ago, kucharczykt said:

If not what sort of spec should I be looking for a 3D rendering build? 

depends on software used

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Just now, Radium_Angel said:

Are you doing this for fun, or as a career?

Its a hobby at this point, but my budget is $2,500 USD to $3,000 so I'm looking to get a pretty high end rig and I want to get the best pc possible at my price point.  

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Just now, kucharczykt said:

Its a hobby at this point, but my budget is $2,500 USD to $3,000 so I'm looking to get a pretty high end rig and I want to get the best pc possible at my price point.  

As a hobby it will make no difference. As a profession, Quadro cards exist for this reason.

So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

no because different rendering software are best with different balance of CPU speed, GPU performance, RAM speed and capacity and storage space. A gaming rig wouldnt be too bad of a 3D rendering PC, but for those doing work rather than for fun they should be built differently.

 

depends on software used

I use blender at the moment because its free but once I get better I will switch to cinema 4D. 

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6 minutes ago, kucharczykt said:

cinema 4D. 

Then look at the recommended specs for C4D and build to that

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55 minutes ago, kucharczykt said:

I use blender at the moment because its free but once I get better I will switch to cinema 4D. 

C4D is CPU-based for viewport and cares about single core speed more than core count after you get 8+ cores, no architecture specific benefits so it's not an AMD versus Intel problem here. There are GPU rendering plugins like Arnold, Redshify and Octane you can get seperately (paid tho afaik), all ask for Nvidia GPUs so it will be between the 3080 and 3090 as far as existing models go. Maybe 3080 20GB if that ends up being a thing.

 

 

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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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For gaming, you need a good single core CPU performance, some RAM (16 or 32gb) and a high end GPU (a single one).

For rendering you need a good multicore CPU, a RAM that you need to use it wisely, otherwise 32 gb is not enough and all the GPU you can get.

The thing is that you can do 3d render on a nice gaming pc, but the final rendering Time  for an image will be higher than that if a multiple GPU.

My advice is start it for fun and see how it goes but there is some math below in case you care.

Now for a film making, you basically need more GPU for less time.

If you need 25sec for 1 frame and you use it for a single image, it's fine, but 1 minute of a video, is 60 sec times 30fps, so 1min=60(sec)* 30(frames per sec)* 25(sec per frame)=45.000seconds that is 12.5 hours for 1 minute of film. That is the reason that professional 3d artists use more GPU (if not a server), 2 GPU means half time and so on.

Of course higher end GPU needs less time, bigger resolution needs more time, denoise needs more, image clarity needs more and blah blah blah

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1. The 9900k is NOT the top CPU from Intel anymore - the 10900k took that crown away (10 cores vs 8 ) though 9900k parts are now going for ~$300 - Intel/retailers are seemingly dropping prices almost as though these parts are about to become WAY less appealing...
2. I'd probably wait for Zen 3 which is early next month. It's looking like it'll be a monster of a CPU - think AMD's slowest Zen 3 part trading blows with the 9900k (depending on the task) and their fastest part having 2x the cores. 
3. Cinema 4d actually has a benchmark associated with it called CineBench. Right now the best parts for Cinebench at a given price point are AMD's Zen 2 based CPUs. Be aware that the 9900k is WAY at the bottom of the list of parts pugetsystem shows. I missed it at first. 

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/blog/2018/04/03/How-to-Use-Cinebench-to-Predict-Cinema-4D-Performance-1130/

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Cinema-4D-CPU-Rendering-Performance-Intel-Core-X-10000-vs-AMD-Threadripper-3rd-Gen-1622/

 

Be aware that modeling is much more lightly threaded than rendering though - 

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For pure rendering, AMD's new 3rd Gen Threadripper processors are by far the better choice. A lot of work in Cinema 4D is modeling and animation, though, which are more lightly-threaded. We are still working on developing benchmarks to better test that aspect of performance, but based on other tests it looks like the latest Intel and AMD CPUs should be pretty similar for that workload.

The more lightly threaded the work the less favorable AMD parts seem to do (though this WILL likely change early next month - leaked benchmarks show AMD going from ~5% behind to ~10-25% ahead in that area)

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