4770k (4.2Ghz) + RTX 3070?

[Flavlus]

Looking for some suggestions. 

I play my games on a 144hz 1440p IPS panel and am running a 4770k OC at 4.2Ghz (will be trying to push it to 4.5 but haven't played around too much with voltages and stuff) 
16gb DDR3 at 2133
GTX 980ti G1 Gaming overclocked

Im thinking of getting a 3070 when it comes out and in another 6 months or so look at getting into a new CPU once 4000 series AMD and Tigerlake desktop chips launch. 

Do you think I will be bottlenecking a 3070 at 1440p witha 4770k at 4.2 OC ? Or should i wait even longer and upgrade the whole system at once? 

[Jurrunio]

4770k? Looking at how numpad arranges numbers

 

7 minutes ago, Flavlus said:

Do you think I will be bottlenecking a 3070 at 1440p witha 4470k at 4.2 OC ? Or should i wait even longer and upgrade the whole system at once?

It will, so no need to rush for the card

[svmlegacy]

6 minutes ago, Flavlus said:

Looking for some suggestions. 

I play my games on a 144hz 1440p IPS panel and am running a 4470k OC at 4.2Ghz (will be trying to push it to 4.5 but haven't played around too much with voltages and stuff) 
16gb DDR3 at 2133
GTX 980ti G1 Gaming overclocked

Im thinking of getting a 3070 when it comes out and in another 6 months or so look at getting into a new CPU once 4000 series AMD and Tigerlake desktop chips launch. 

Do you think I will be bottlenecking a 3070 at 1440p witha 4470k at 4.2 OC ? Or should i wait even longer and upgrade the whole system at once? 

i5-4670K or i7-4770K? The 4470K doesn't exist, afaik.

[EridanusSV]

We don't know yet. No actual benchmark data is released for 4000 up to 9000 series + 3080 let a lone 3070 -- heck, people who ordered on the first second probably still have their cards in the warehouse being prepared for shipment.

 

My little brother has my old 4790K and I have the 3950X. Once I get a hold of a 3070 next month, I'll let you know for sure... (If I remember)

[Helpful Tech Witch]

You probably will be bottlenecked by cpu, so IDK if you can hit 144fps. 

[Flavlus]

24 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

i5-4670K or i7-4770K? The 4470K doesn't exist, afaik.

i7 4770k

[svmlegacy]

2 minutes ago, Flavlus said:

i7 4770k

144 Hz will be tough for modern heavy games. You will see some improvement by going to 4.5 or 4.6 GHz, if your CPU can do it.

Older titles shouldn't be much of an issue.

 

At any rate, get the card first if you're going to wait on next gen CPU's.

[Flavlus]

Just now, svmlegacy said:

144 Hz will be tough for modern heavy games. You will see some improvement by going to 4.5 or 4.6 GHz, if your CPU can do it.

Older titles shouldn't be much of an issue.

 

At any rate, get the card first if you're going to wait on next gen CPU's.

Yeah thats my concern. Will i see much improvement on my 980ti or am I just paying a bunch of money for like 10 extra fps?

 

[i_build_nanosuits]

4770k 4.3ghz and 980ti at 1440p worked well for me.

Same cpu with 1080ti and it was a struggle in many games....that should answer your question. You need a new cpu

[i_build_nanosuits]

35 minutes ago, Flavlus said:

Yeah thats my concern. Will i see much improvement on my 980ti or am I just paying a bunch of money for like 10 extra fps?

 

No no no you WILL for sure see a very sincere improvement in graphics performance so you'll be able to crack anti aliasing to max for example and the card won't feel it because in many instances the cpu will not allow it to flex it's muscle ...

You'll get frame rates that are more all over the place tho....and this ain't good for a smooth gaming experience.

Sometimes you'll get like 150FPS and all of a sudden stuff start to happen or change and you'll see drops in the 70FPS range and your poor CPU will be maxed out. I'd recommend jumping to an 8 core CPU at this point.

 

You would not get the gaming experience you want and you pay for. You'll feel it quad core cpu is weak these days.

 

[svmlegacy]

31 minutes ago, Flavlus said:

Yeah thats my concern. Will i see much improvement on my 980ti or am I just paying a bunch of money for like 10 extra fps?

Wait for benchmarks.

[i_build_nanosuits]

7 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

Wait for benchmarks.

But for what tho? We know the 3070 will be somewhere in the ball park of a 2080ti performance wise...sometimes a bit more and sometimes a bit less depending on resolution and ray tracing etc...we know how it's gonna perform and i know for a fact that haswell 4 core doesn't stand a chance at modern multiplayer open world AAA titles when paired with a 2080ti for high refresh 1440p gaming because i had it and when i bought my 1080ti is the month i realized games had evolved a lot and more GPU require more CPU as well.

 

[Flavlus]

7 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

Wait for benchmarks.

I doubt anyone will be doing 4770k with any 3000 series cards

[svmlegacy]

1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

But for what tho? We know the 3070 will be somewhere in the ball park of a 2080ti performance wise...sometimes a bit more and sometimes a bit less depending on resolution and ray tracing etc...we know how it's gonna perform and i know for a fact that haswell 4 core doesn't stand a chance at modern multiplayer open world AAA titles when paired with a 2080ti for high refresh 1440p gaming because i had it and when i bought my 1080ti is the month i realized games had evolved a lot and more GPU require more CPU as well.

Ampere and Turing are very different architectures, so you can't really tell if a CPU is enough based off of a Turing at approximately the same performance. The only thing we can do to speculate is to scale the 3080 down, and we still need to wait for more benchmarks on that. From the looks of it, Ampere performance relative to Turing depends a lot on the game engine and API.

[i_build_nanosuits]

4 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

Ampere and Turing are very different architectures, so you can't really tell if a CPU is enough based off of a Turing at approximately the same performance.

Well that's an interesting point maybe worth researching i must admit i'd never tought of it that way i guess...for me it's more based on the game engine, the API and drivers. The CPU requierements vary a lot from game to game depending on how the engine work.

But also it's worth pointing out that the vast majority of games if you consider all game gendra and older titles etc. the vast majority will still not exibit performance deficit when processing with a 4c/8t CPU. But when you get into really modern great looking vast open world stuff it gets heavy real quick especially if you're not a player who like the single player campaing and stuff.

[Mick Naughty]

Don’t think you need to wait for benchmarks. You’ll need a new cpu to make it worth while. 
And good luck hitting 4.5 out of it. 
Really wish mine could go a little further. Doesn’t pair well with even a 1080. Quite a large frame lose compared to a modern cpu. 

[YesThisIs]

I'm in a same boat as you are. Was running 4770k @4.3. After looking at Gamer Nexus "review" of 4770k in 2020: 

Decided to "swap" it for 4790K @4.8 (Did find one after month of searching for 150€). In 1440P F1 2020  4790K @4.8 and 2080ti:

10700K: 212 FPS
4790K 4.8: 210 FPS

 

So, 4770K At 4.3-4.4 there is around 10-20FPS bottleneck in 1440p. 1080p the bottleneck becomes ever stronger. IF you can find 4.8 chip and run at 1440p, you can scretch it out to not (mostly) be a bottleneck with 3070. 

Mind you, in US the prices of 4790k (especially that can run 4.8) are hideous. I'm currently waiting for 3070 to launch so i can pair it with my 4790K. 

But yeah, 4.2ghz 1080p it will bottleneck it. At first, i should try to OC it and see how far it can go. My 4770k didn't go over 4.3 with excessive voltages. (Over 1.35V). Some 4770K's can go 4.5ghz around 1.3V. Delidding is also an option, after delid some are hitting 5ghz comftorbally. It's an hit or miss really and really the only way to know is to test it. 

[FaxedForward]

Tomshardware tested the 3080 on an OC'ed 4770k vs more modern CPUs and yeah, it's definitely a bottleneck.

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/features/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ampere-cpu-scaling-benchmarks