I need to decrease the price of my build

[TheGav]

Budget (including currency): $3000-3500 USD and under

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Photoshop, Music rendering, Premiere, New games in 2021, FPS games

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$479.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$99.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus PRIME X570-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	$243.72 @ Amazon
Memory	Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$99.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$99.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$164.95 @ Amazon
Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Founders Edition Video Card	$1199.99 @ Best Buy
Case	Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh w/ Controller ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	be quiet! Straight Power 11 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$219.00 @ B&H
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	$139.88 @ Other World Computing
Case Fan	Cooler Master MasterFan MF120R ARGB 59 CFM 120 mm Fan	$21.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan	Cooler Master MF120R ARGB 59 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack	$58.99 @ B&H
Monitor	Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor	$449.99 @ Adorama
Keyboard	Das Keyboard 4 Professional Wired Standard Keyboard	$169.00 @ Amazon
Mouse	Razer DeathAdder Elite Wired Optical Mouse	$69.99 @ Target
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$3616.42
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-17 16:04 EDT-0400

 

• The 2080 TI is a placeholder for the upcoming 3090
• I may overclock
• The majority will be gaming/multimedia editing

[zeusthemoose]

Get a 3900x instead of the xt (if you can’t wait until later this year to get 4th gen amd). ~50 saved there

Buy the Windows license from eBay. Same key for like $5. You might get a bad key or two, but with ebays buyer protection, you get a refund so there is basically no risk. Almost $150 saved

No need for a 1000w platinum psu. Get something like the Corsair RMx series (more good options in the psu tier list linked in my signature). That should save you $75-100

[SupaKomputa]

You don't use 2080ti as a placeholder, you would loose 30% in 2 months. I suggest 2060, 30% out of that would be less painful.

Out of the above, i cannot give you any suggestion except for the windows, you can get a cheap $10 key at ebay.

 

[jaslion]

When are you going to build this? Ryzen 4000 is launching in fall too.

 

Where you can save money is by going with a decent b550 board (they have 90% of the features for half the price and I don't see anything that would need the extra features here), 32gb of ram, not getting windows 10 from a store but from ebay, getting a cheaper cooler (you really don't need a nhd15 for that cpu), getting a cheaper ssd that is still very good. Getting a 550w psu as that is more than plenty for this system 1000w is beyond overkill and not getting rgb fans.

[TheGav]

Just now, SupaKomputa said:

You don't use 2080ti as a placeholder, you would loose 30% in 2 months. I suggest 2060, 30% out of that would be less painful.

Out of the above, i cannot give you any suggestion except for the windows, you can get a cheap $10 key at ebay.

 

I meant for the part list

[LIGISTX]

PSU, Mobo, CPU, can all be cut pretty heavily. Also, can save A LOT by going a GPU step down... but really mobo and PSU being cut down can save you 200 bucks right there, assuming you also cut the CPU down a notch as well.

 

But yes, def wait for Ryzen 4000 if you can. 

[Shimejii]

11 minutes ago, TheGav said:

Budget (including currency): $3000-3500 USD and under

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Photoshop, Music rendering, Premiere, New games in 2021, FPS games

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$479.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$99.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus PRIME X570-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	$243.72 @ Amazon
Memory	Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$99.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$99.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$164.95 @ Amazon
Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Founders Edition Video Card	$1199.99 @ Best Buy
Case	Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh w/ Controller ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	be quiet! Straight Power 11 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$219.00 @ B&H
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	$139.88 @ Other World Computing
Case Fan	Cooler Master MasterFan MF120R ARGB 59 CFM 120 mm Fan	$21.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan	Cooler Master MF120R ARGB 59 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack	$58.99 @ B&H
Monitor	Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor	$449.99 @ Adorama
Keyboard	Das Keyboard 4 Professional Wired Standard Keyboard	$169.00 @ Amazon
Mouse	Razer DeathAdder Elite Wired Optical Mouse	$69.99 @ Target
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$3616.42
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-17 16:04 EDT-0400

 

• The 2080 TI is a placeholder for the upcoming 3090
• I may overclock
• The majority will be gaming/multimedia editing

This is one of these partslists that are put together as a Here look i can make $4000 Build. I dont think you are serious in the least bit. But heres an adjusted list for something you may actually use. Dont think you actually need all those fans and you can get a windows key for 15$ and that PSU is way too much.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$283.55 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$99.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	$179.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$99.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$164.95 @ Amazon
Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Founders Edition Video Card	$1199.99 @ Best Buy
Case	Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh w/ Controller ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Cooler Master MWE Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$119.99 @ Best Buy
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	$15.00
Monitor	Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor	$449.99 @ Adorama
Keyboard	Das Keyboard 4 Professional Wired Standard Keyboard	$169.00 @ Amazon
Mouse	Razer DeathAdder Elite Wired Optical Mouse	$69.99 @ Target
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2952.38
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-17 17:52 EDT-0400

 

[SupaKomputa]

2 minutes ago, TheGav said:

I meant for the part list

i see, well if you expect the next rtx card going to be at that price, that won't happen.

historically, nvidia upping the price by 20% for the newer gen.

so you gonna have to tune down most of the parts.

and wait for ryzen 4000 if you're not in a rush.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($429.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  ($99.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital SN750 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($134.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Founders Edition Video Card  ($1199.99 @ Best Buy) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh w/ Controller ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($139.99 @ Best Buy) 
Case Fan: Cooler Master MasterFan MF120R ARGB 59 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($21.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Cooler Master MF120R ARGB 59 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($58.99 @ B&H) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($449.99 @ Adorama) 
Keyboard: Das Keyboard 4 Professional Wired Standard Keyboard  ($169.00 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Elite Wired Optical Mouse  ($69.99 @ Target) 
Total: $3198.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-17 17:57 EDT-0400

[TheGav]

3 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

This is one of these partslists that are put together as a Here look i can make $4000 Build. I dont think you are serious in the least bit.

 

ur mean

 

no, I can't make a $4k pc, that's why I wanted to lower the price.

[SpookyCitrus]

I would advise waiting a month for the new GPUs and AMD CPUs to drop before building a new computer, right now is literally the worst time to buy for many many reasons. Wait to even do the part list until they are out and available, making one now will just be speculation on price and we could be wrong.

[Lipe123]

I wouldn't mess with the windows license but that's your choice. 

 

Other than that I'd kinda go with Shimejii's suggestions

 

Some notes:

• FPS in games does not drastically improve from a lowly 3600 to the 3900x https://www.techspot.com/review/1897-ryzen-5-ryzen-9-core-i9-gaming-scaling/
  So the 3700 is a much better budget option.
• There are better value X570 boards but you'd have to do more research based on things like the gamers nexus review on those boards.
• 1000W PSU is DUMB and no one should ever need this unless you are doing a $10k build with quad SLI or something stupid.
  If you buy a 1000W psu you are compensating for peen size.

[SupaKomputa]

2 minutes ago, Lipe123 said:

I wouldn't mess with the windows license but that's your choice. 

I buy windows 8 with cheap key, upgraded to win 10 for free, and it's still running.

MS don't give a fuss about this, why should we?

[Lipe123]

1 minute ago, SupaKomputa said:

I buy windows 8 with cheap key, upgraded to win 10 for free, and it's still running.

MS don't give a fuss about this, why should we?

Cause I worked at a pc store for a long time, if you bring me a computer with no valid license I don't work on it.

 

You can absolutely get some working keys on amazon/ebay, they might be old windows 7/8 keys.

Technically they will work but sometimes it wont activate and be a pain in the ass.

[Kilrah]

2 minutes ago, Lipe123 said:

Technically they will work but sometimes it wont activate and be a pain in the ass.

Got many of the cheapest ones over the years and never had a single issue. 

[SupaKomputa]

1 minute ago, Lipe123 said:

Technically they will work but sometimes it wont activate and be a pain in the ass.

If it's not activating, it's not legit. You can ask the sellers for replacement (which good sellers would love to do).

Call MS and they will give you a new one (if the key's legit).

Happened to me upgrading mobos, call ms, they give you new act keys, no question asked.

[Lipe123]

1 minute ago, SupaKomputa said:

If it's not activating, it's not legit. You can ask the sellers for replacement (which good sellers would love to do).

Call MS and they will give you a new one (if the key's legit).

Happened to me upgrading mobos, call ms, they give you new act keys, no question asked.

 

Like I said, they may work and more often than not they do.

 

However, it's not technically legal. You cannot legally resell a windows license.

MS is turning a blind eye for the most part and will only audit companies etc. but it's worth it to point out to OP that while this can work its not strictly legal.

[SupaKomputa]

4 minutes ago, Lipe123 said:

However, it's not technically legal. You cannot legally resell a windows license.

Yes, that's why they call it "grey".

 

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-10-legal-without-activation/d7491774-4dd7-490a-862f-2c0d6febd0bd?auth=1

[TheGav]

38 minutes ago, Caroline said:

$80 on some fans just because of the LEDs

 

 

I wanted the fans to match the stock fans, and there were only 3 front fans, so I assumed I needed more airflow.

[TheGav]

This is what I based my choice of psu off of:

I originally wanted a titanium rating, but that may be extreme....

https://outervision.com/b/c8vbLx

[VeganJoy]

1 hour ago, TheGav said:

This is what I based my choice of psu off of:

I originally wanted a titanium rating, but that may be extreme....

https://outervision.com/b/c8vbLx

well dont buy a 1600 watt psu lol, most titanium rated units are OOS these days but you can find em on ebay for reasonable prices. i'd get a seasonic prime ultra titanium, 650w would be more than enough but they make 750 and 850w as well. i ordered a 750w for 90 bucks plus 30 bucks for cables and the 12 year warranty is transferable. even if the seller doesnt have the original invoice youll get about 5 years from mfg date

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($429.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($209.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Silicon Power A80 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($124.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card  ($779.99 @ Newegg) 2080ti seems to be OOS.
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh w/ Controller ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Straight Power 11 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.90 @ B&H) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($139.88 @ Other World Computing) 
Monitor: VIOTEK GN34CW 34.0" 3440x1440 100 Hz Monitor  ($359.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Das Keyboard 4 Professional Wired Standard Keyboard  ($169.00 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Elite Wired Optical Mouse  ($69.99 @ Target) 
Total: $2742.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-17 22:39 EDT-0400

 

[Intergalacticbits]

Like others have said on here the first things that jump out at me are the CPU and power supply.

With less of a CPU, depending on what you choose. You might also be able to drop to a slightly less expensive Noctua cooler.

Don't get me wrong I like Noctua.

1000 watt power supply definitely seems like a place to cut the fat.

Also wondering if a way cheaper keyboard wouldn't get the job done.

I like to type myself though and wouldn't hesitate to get something I liked that felt good.

So I'm on the fence about that one.