membrane vs mechanical keyboard

[M.R_KING]

hello guys

 

what do you prefer in terms of keyboards؟؟؟
a membrane keyboard from a good company or a cheap mechanical keyboard from unknown brand؟؟؟

[Oswin]

mechanical over membrane any day, you can find many mechanical keyboards at the price of a "high end membrane", but there are very good quality membranes

[seon123]

Depends on the model. Obviously I'd choose a good membrane keyboard (like an early IBM Model M) over a crappy mechanical keyboard (like a Corsair K95 Platinum). And I would obviously choose a nice mechanical keyboard over a crappy membrane keyboard.

[FavoringWinter]

 if you are looking between the two, save up a little bit more to get a hyper x mechanical keyboard. they are relatively cheap, and good quality. that is relative to the price btw.

 

[M.R_KING]

Just now, Oswin said:

mechanical over membrane any day, you can find many mechanical keyboards at the price of a "high end membrane"

yeah i know mechanical is always better than a membrane keyboard

 

but can you use a very cheap chinese unknown mechanical keyboard...let's say a 25 dollars one over a good membrane keyboard

[M.R_KING]

1 minute ago, seon123 said:

Depends on the model. Obviously I'd choose a good membrane keyboard (like an early IBM Model M) over a crappy mechanical keyboard (like a Corsair K95 Platinum). And I would obviously choose a nice mechanical keyboard over a crappy membrane keyboard.

is k95 platinum bad؟؟؟؟

 

it's one of the most expensive mechanical keyboards

[Oswin]

Just now, M.R_KING said:

yeah i know mechanical is always better than a membrane keyboard

 

but can you use a very cheap chinese unknown mechanical keyboard...let's say a 25 dollars one over a good membrane keyboard

depends on what brand you are talking about, currently using a $20 mechanical keyboard, and so far it has exceeded my expectations. 

[gloop]

8 minutes ago, M.R_KING said:

is k95 platinum bad؟؟؟؟

 

it's one of the most expensive mechanical keyboards

Expensive =! good.

 

It has bad keycaps, key switches, stabilizers, build quality and has malware 'RGB Control' software.

[sub68]

9 minutes ago, M.R_KING said:

it's one of the most expensive mechanical keyboards

reason why its expensive is because of the macros

[sub68]

2 minutes ago, gloop said:

malware 'RGB Control' software.

I don't think so

[Senzelian]

3 minutes ago, gloop said:

key switches

Yeah those Cherry switches. Worst switches ever!

[M.R_KING]

5 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

Yeah those Cherry switches. Worst switches ever!

so what are you prefer on mechanical switches؟؟؟

gateron or kailh or outemu؟؟؟؟ and why؟؟؟

[Oswin]

2 minutes ago, M.R_KING said:

so what are you prefer on mechanical switches؟؟؟

gateron or kailh or outemu؟؟؟؟ and why؟؟؟

that's highly depends on personal preference

[Senzelian]

5 minutes ago, M.R_KING said:

so what are you prefer on mechanical switches؟؟؟

gateron or kailh or outemu؟؟؟؟ and why؟؟؟

Cherrys.
I was just a bit sarcastic.

 

2 minutes ago, Oswin said:

that's highly depends on personal preference

That's why he said "prefer" and didn't simply ask what's better.

[Oswin]

6 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

That's why he said "prefer" and didn't simply ask what's better.

 i should clarify, its just a heads up

Edited August 13, 2020 by Oswin

[M.R_KING]

3 minutes ago, Oswin said:

that's highly depends on personal preference

i like blue switches from any brand 

cherry....gateron...kailh....outemu

any brand

because i love clicky sound

but now i use membrane keyboard iBecause I am collecting money to buy a pc build

[Senzelian]

5 minutes ago, Oswin said:

 i should clarify, its just a heads up

Fair enough. 

[e22big]

I would pick a good membrane keyboard over even a relatively good mechanical if it comes with an obnoxiously lound or heavy clicky switches. Keyboard for me is both a tool and a toy but it is more of the former and less of the latter. I have to type a lot, sometime upto several thousands of words a day and a keyboard that produced a very lound clicky noise or require a lot of typing force will be a massive hindrance to my workflow no matter how good it feel. 

 

Also some switches like Kalih brow choc low profile feel pretty rubbery too me, would still pick it over most membrane switches but not sure if I would like it more than say, a scissor switches if I have been presented with a choise (but a good scissor switches is pretty hard to find outside of a build-in laptop). 

[RainingTacco]

These overpriced mechanical gaming keyboards are completely not worth it. Get yourself a simple and good quality built IKBC, Leopold or Topre if you have the money. Topre switches are the most durable, dust proof switches out there. Price of topre is not really that far off from high end "gaming" keyboards. 

[e22big]

2 hours ago, RainingTacco said:

These overpriced mechanical gaming keyboards are completely not worth it. Get yourself a simple and good quality built IKBC, Leopold or Topre if you have the money. Topre switches are the most durable, dust proof switches out there. Price of topre is not really that far off from high end "gaming" keyboards. 

there's cavet though, most "none-gaming" mechanical keyboard are either TKL or smaller footprint, for people who want full size, there isn't a lot of option in that space

 

some full size mechanical keyboard also come with 5 or more macro keys, that's something you can't get from any none-gaming peripheral at all - for me who work primarily on keyboard and not mouse, those keys are very important, they are far more convenient than any of the gesture you can use on a typical keyboard

[RejZoR]

21 hours ago, Oswin said:

mechanical over membrane any day, you can find many mechanical keyboards at the price of a "high end membrane", but there are very good quality membranes

I frankly feel people diss membrane ones too much and praise mechanical ones too much just because the only thing they know are those nasty 6€ membrane keyboards with mushy wobbly keys. Cherry Stream is one of the best membrane options with special SX Scissor keys that are low profile, very quiet but enough noisy to have good audible feedback, short travel distance and well balanced point of no return. Something a lot of Linear keyboards and cheap membrane ones don't have. It's that point where it'll be always registered as a press and that happens very quickly with Cherry Stream. And it costs under 40€. I loved it and only reason I don't have it anymore is because I worn out my old one and can't find one with my language keys anymore. And it's now that I realized how incredibly hard it is to find a good membrane keyboard. EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE is obsessed with this mechanical nonsense. To a point I gave up looking for a low profile membrane keyboard...

 

Most mechanical keyboards that cost almost 200€ have horrendous keys. All wobbly and nasty. I can't believe they dare charging so much. Was looking at Logitech G815 and it's almost unobtainable with Tactile keys and tall ENTER key. Then I looked at Logitech G413 and it has tall keys and mono lighting. And keys were horribly wobbly and aluminium plate below keys, while nice looking had really rough edges. You'd expect better from a keyboard that costs almost 100€.882222282

 

In the end I settled with UVI Gear Pride mecha-optical keyboard. Just because it had somewhat reasonable price of 80€ and is actually a design from a local Slovenian company which means proper tall ENTER and proper Slovenian language keys with none of that extra engraved ugly nonsense. I'd prefer if it was Tactile and low profile one, but they only make a Clicky (Blue) one and I said what the hell, lets just go all in. And while I miss my Cherry Stream, this one isn't terrible. Certainly far better than anything Logitech, Razer or Red Dragon I've tried. One Razer actually had decent lower profile keys with mecha-membrane, but it had really tall base for some bizarre reason... UVI software needs some polishing, but in general it's actually super configurable. And it's really straight forward. Something I can't say for Logitech's G Hub as I'm always fumbling around it to configure my G502...

 

If I could I'd have Cherry Stream till end of my life. But stupid trends made me not have that option anymore. Unfortunately. So now I'm with the mainstream crowd of obnoxiously noisy clicky RGB keyboards. Oh well. I thought I'd be more annoyed by the clicking, but thunderstorm and music make it go away somewhat...

[Lord Vile]

6 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

I frankly feel people diss membrane ones too much and praise mechanical ones too much just because the only thing they know are those nasty 6€ membrane keyboards with mushy wobbly keys. Cherry Stream is one of the best membrane options with special SX Scissor keys that are low profile, very quiet but enough noisy to have good audible feedback, short travel distance and well balanced point of no return. Something a lot of Linear keyboards and cheap membrane ones don't have. It's that point where it'll be always registered as a press and that happens very quickly with Cherry Stream. And it costs under 40€. I loved it and only reason I don't have it anymore is because I worn out my old one and can't find one with my language keys anymore. And it's now that I realized how incredibly hard it is to find a good membrane keyboard. EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE is obsessed with this mechanical nonsense. To a point I gave up looking for a low profile membrane keyboard...

 

Most mechanical keyboards that cost almost 200€ have horrendous keys. All wobbly and nasty. I can't believe they dare charging so much. Was looking at Logitech G815 and it's almost unobtainable with Tactile keys and tall ENTER key. Then I looked at Logitech G413 and it has tall keys and mono lighting. And keys were horribly wobbly and aluminium plate below keys, while nice looking had really rough edges. You'd expect better from a keyboard that costs almost 100€.882222282

 

In the end I settled with UVI Gear Pride mecha-optical keyboard. Just because it had somewhat reasonable price of 80€ and is actually a design from a local Slovenian company which means proper tall ENTER and proper Slovenian language keys with none of that extra engraved ugly nonsense. I'd prefer if it was Tactile and low profile one, but they only make a Clicky (Blue) one and I said what the hell, lets just go all in. And while I miss my Cherry Stream, this one isn't terrible. Certainly far better than anything Logitech, Razer or Red Dragon I've tried. One Razer actually had decent lower profile keys with mecha-membrane, but it had really tall base for some bizarre reason... UVI software needs some polishing, but in general it's actually super configurable. And it's really straight forward. Something I can't say for Logitech's G Hub as I'm always fumbling around it to configure my G502...

 

If I could I'd have Cherry Stream till end of my life. But stupid trends made me not have that option anymore. Unfortunately. So now I'm with the mainstream crowd of obnoxiously noisy clicky RGB keyboards. Oh well. I thought I'd be more annoyed by the clicking, but thunderstorm and music make it go away somewhat...

I’m a fan of my Razer Elite atm. Lighting is set to white and even though I opted for the clicky switches they do tactile ones. Stabilisation is decent with a tall enter key and BQ feels solid. 

[RejZoR]

Which "Elite"? They seem to have bunch of models with "Elite" attached in the end... And my main issue with most Razer keyboards was small ENTER key and really nasty engraved letters on most Razer keyboards. I don't mean shoddy engraved but in terms of having that crap all over keys so you have tons of special characters duplicated. And it's so lazy they engrave Y on Z and Z on Y instead of swapping the keys. It just looks absolutely horrible and worst thing is the engraving doesn't shine RGB through, so you still see QWERTY in glowing RGB, but the actual letter Z for QWERTZ is just engraved and not lit. I know it's all mass production and all that but come on, employ some student who's gonna swap Y and Z keys all day long so you can sell a better localized keyboard. At least show some effort even if the rest still has to be engraved.

 

It's why I in the end opted for UVI Gear. Even if it's not their own manufacturing, they at least took their time to customize the design properly and not just lazy engrave crap all over existing keys. And I really appreciate that as the keyboard is super clean and text on keys is only exactly where that character is. No duplicated mess. I remember times in the past when all keyboards had proper Slovenian letters. Now that's a rarity. I don't know what happened and why that lead to current state with keyboards. And buying them online is absolute nightmare. Everyone just uses bad generic photos from US or UK webpages that don't even reflect the actual shape or look of the keys that we get in the end. Be grateful that you don't have to deal with this crap in US/UK/Canadian regions...

[Lord Vile]

1 hour ago, RejZoR said:

Which "Elite"? They seem to have bunch of models with "Elite" attached in the end... And my main issue with most Razer keyboards was small ENTER key and really nasty engraved letters on most Razer keyboards. I don't mean shoddy engraved but in terms of having that crap all over keys so you have tons of special characters duplicated. And it's so lazy they engrave Y on Z and Z on Y instead of swapping the keys. It just looks absolutely horrible and worst thing is the engraving doesn't shine RGB through, so you still see QWERTY in glowing RGB, but the actual letter Z for QWERTZ is just engraved and not lit. I know it's all mass production and all that but come on, employ some student who's gonna swap Y and Z keys all day long so you can sell a better localized keyboard. At least show some effort even if the rest still has to be engraved.

 

It's why I in the end opted for UVI Gear. Even if it's not their own manufacturing, they at least took their time to customize the design properly and not just lazy engrave crap all over existing keys. And I really appreciate that as the keyboard is super clean and text on keys is only exactly where that character is. No duplicated mess. I remember times in the past when all keyboards had proper Slovenian letters. Now that's a rarity. I don't know what happened and why that lead to current state with keyboards. And buying them online is absolute nightmare. Everyone just uses bad generic photos from US or UK webpages that don't even reflect the actual shape or look of the keys that we get in the end. Be grateful that you don't have to deal with this crap in US/UK/Canadian regions...

Blackwidow elite soz. The legend on mine is fine I don’t know what you’re on about with the Z key and it has a tall enter. 
 

Can’t you order the layout from Razer directly? 

[RejZoR]

170€. Auch. What I was talking about was that in my language we have QWERTZ layout, not QWERTY. So, they need to engrave things extra on top of keys to convert QWERTY to QWERTZ. Instead of exchanging the keys physically. At least these two. But they don't. And it looks really bad in the end.