Building PCs requires discipline

[Donballer]

15 minutes ago, bowrilla said:

The pins inside of the socket where you put the CPU in. There's a black protective cover meant to protect it. It's missing in that picture which should never be the state you have it lying around.

 

Lift that metal lid up, put the bracket on and lower the lid again.

also that latest picture i sent is not mines just a reference to ask about the paste being on the sides like that

[Donballer]

Is it possible that these thumb screws are on too tight? 

[-rascal-]

1 hour ago, Donballer said:

could you perhaps mark what your talking about. im really bad at tech. im sorry if its too much

 

He is referring to the tiny gold CPU pins that are in the CPU socket, underneath the actual CPU itself.

A bit of thermal paste on the metal CPU mounting brackets is fine.

 

1 hour ago, Donballer said:

Is it possible that these thumb screws are on too tight? 

 

They just need to be hand tight.

Plus, it is hard to make them too tight because of the black plastic washers / spacers that is under the screws.

 

[Donballer]

17 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

He is referring to the tiny gold CPU pins that are in the CPU socket, underneath the actual CPU itself.

A bit of thermal paste on the metal CPU mounting brackets is fine.

 

 

They just need to be hand tight.

Plus, it is hard to make them too tight because of the black plastic washers / spacers that is under the screws.

 

i used a screwdriver on them, could that be the reason im having problems securing the cooler onto the cpu?

[Donballer]

Just now, Donballer said:

i used a screwdriver on them, could that be the reason im having problems securing the cooler onto the cpu?

should i loosen them just a bit and retry the cooler process?

[LogicalDrm]

1 hour ago, Donballer said:

Is it possible that these thumb screws are on too tight? 

Good thing about SecuFirm is that you can't really make it too tight just by using your hands. Those screws are meant to secure mounting hardware to mobo. Essentially transferring weight of big cooler over whole motherboard. Same goes with the screws you had trouble earlier. Those have springs to stop you before you can apply too much pressure to socket.

[-rascal-]

1 minute ago, Donballer said:

i used a screwdriver on them, could that be the reason im having problems securing the cooler onto the cpu?

 

Like I said, the black washers will stop you from tightening it too much -- even with a screwdriver.

You should be fine.

[LogicalDrm]

2 minutes ago, Donballer said:

i used a screwdriver on them, could that be the reason im having problems securing the cooler onto the cpu?

2 minutes ago, Donballer said:

should i loosen them just a bit and retry the cooler process?

 

No, the problem you had/have is that you tighten the springloaded screws too much on one side. The correct way is to get one side just to latch, then do same to other side. Then do them little bit at the time until you can't turn them any longer.

[Donballer]

3 minutes ago, LogicalDrm said:

 

No, the problem you had/have is that you tighten the springloaded screws too much on one side. The correct way is to get one side just to latch, then do same to other side. Then do them little bit at the time until you can't turn them any longer.

thats sorta of what i do but ill try right now the way your saying it 1 second

 

[Donballer]

39 minutes ago, Donballer said:

thats sorta of what i do but ill try right now the way your saying it 1 second

 

still doesnt work i made progress  tho i got the other screw latched but it wont screw after that and the other side pops off at this point i may just pay someone to build it for me

its too much im following all of the steps to the tee and still no hope

[Donballer]

LETS FUCKING GO! I GOT IT! GOD BLESS AMERICA!

[Donballer]

Both fans are pointed towards io shield is this ok? (Not a tech guy at all) explain like you would to your grandfather I’d appreciate it a lot

[Jarsky]

That'll work fine. It's typically better to put your RAM in before putting that second fan on as it can be a bit difficult getting your RAM in under that fan. 

[Donballer]

2 minutes ago, Jarsky said:

That'll work fine. It's typically better to put your RAM in before putting that second fan on as it can be a bit difficult getting your RAM in under that fan. 

Thanks my guy I just noticed that rn I’m taking it out lol!

[minibois]

7 minutes ago, Donballer said:

Both fans are pointed towards io shield is this ok? (Not a tech guy at all) explain like you would to your grandfather I’d appreciate it a lot

Yup, that's alright.

P.S. keep in mind you might need to remove the fan (the one on the right in the picture) to be able to install the RAM into your motherboard (slot 2 and 4, counting from the left side is usually the default ones).

[Donballer]

5 minutes ago, minibois said:

Yup, that's alright.

P.S. keep in mind you might need to remove the fan (the one on the right in the picture) to be able to install the RAM into your motherboard (slot 2 and 4, counting from the left side is usually the default ones

 

Does it look ok? After this I’m confident a video will be able to assist me pretty well. 

[minibois]

2 minutes ago, Donballer said:

Does it look ok? After this I’m confident a video will be able to assist me pretty well. 

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Looks alright.

Be sure to check if your sidepanel can close at the end though, since the fan on your right (in the original picture) does look kind of high up

[Donballer]

4 minutes ago, minibois said:

Looks alright.

Be sure to check if your sidepanel can close at the end though, since the fan on your right (in the original picture) does look kind of high up

Is it ok if the fan is kinda touching the ram stick not too much but barely 

[Donballer]

9 minutes ago, Donballer said:

Is it ok if the fan is kinda touching the ram stick not too much but barely 

So now do I just lay motherboard in gently  and align it with the screws in the case?

[Tristerin]

10 minutes ago, Donballer said:

So now do I just lay motherboard in gently  and align it with the screws in the case?

 

First route the motherboards CPU power connector in the back and connect it to the mobo which is typically easier for cable management depending on the case of course 

 

EDIT - just looked at the pic, you have a small opening so will want to do this first before putting board in

 

EDIT 2 - and put IO shield in before motherboard - that is the metal thing with holes in it that will align in the rectangle opening at the back of the case by the rear exhaust fan.  Push in all four corners it will snap in, and aligns with the outputs of the motherboard when you install it.

[Bartholomew]

2 minutes ago, Donballer said:

So now do I just lay motherboard in gently  and align it with the screws in the case?

First count the holes in the motherboard and check that the standoffs in the case have the same count and are in the same position.

 

Also move that fan wire out of rhe way, otherwise risc locking it in below the motherboard making it hard to get (or possibly rip a capacitor of the back of the mobo.

 

*If* you have a fully modular psu, connect the eps and 24 pin first, they sometimes need a bit of force to click and doing that on a flat surface bends the board less than when mounted on the standoffs.

 

Check that ram, cpu, cooler and optionally nvme drive(s) are installed. Plan ahead, should you van to hide some (fan) cable routing underneath the mobo, now is the time to figure it out and if needed route them between the standoffs to the disered side of the motherboard.

 

Dont overtighten the screws, boards can crack (but their not fragile, so dont worry to much, tighten but dont overdo it).

[Donballer]

18 minutes ago, Bartholomew said:

First count the holes in the motherboard and check that the standoffs in the case have the same count and are in the same position.

 

Also move that fan wire out of rhe way, otherwise risc locking it in below the motherboard making it hard to get (or possibly rip a capacitor of the back of the mobo.

 

*If* you have a fully modular psu, connect the eps and 24 pin first, they sometimes need a bit of force to click and doing that on a flat surface bends the board less than when mounted on the standoffs.

 

Check that ram, cpu, cooler and optionally nvme drive(s) are installed. Plan ahead, should you van to hide some (fan) cable routing underneath the mobo, now is the time to figure it out and if needed route them between the standoffs to the disered side of the motherboard.

 

Dont overtighten the screws, boards can crack (but their not fragile, so dont worry to much, tighten but dont overdo it).

Could you explain this a little bit more I have an understanding but I’m not too sure (fan) cable routing underneath the mobo, now is the time to figure it out and if needed route them between the standoffs to the disered side of the motherboard.

[Bartholomew]

Can only seem1 fan (topleft in your picture, exhaust), that one is fine (so close to mobo cable is almost always  long enough) , dont worry about it.

 

Optionally maybe the case has 1 or more fans on the frontside (intake). These will need to be controlled, aka connected to the motherboard, (mobo will have chassis fan headers in 1 or more locations).

 

The fan cables are only "so and so long" and might not be long enough to be routed on the backside of the case, or even if they could (but you decide this, and where the holes for cables in the case are) the hole they come through might be (just an examlple) above the motherboard while the fan headers are at the bottom of the mobo (again, just a example, it varies all by case and mobo).

 

So, lets for sake of example, you route a front fan cable through the back of the case (so its out of sight), through a hole or grommet alongside the top of the case to the front (where the mobo is), but fan header is at the right hand side of the mobo, you could route the cable in advance, inderneath the mobo.

 

This way when you connect it later, the cable goed nicely under the mobo and is hardly visible.

 

Note things like this make 0 difference for functioning, however cable managing can make it look nicer and more tidy.

If you dont have a transparent sidepanel or just dont care, its nothing important

 

[Donballer]

Oh yeah I’m just trying to play games  competitively I know most of the community loves cable management but I’m not crazy on it and could live without. Would these steps still be needed if I just wanted to get it over fast? 

[Bartholomew]

7 minutes ago, Donballer said:

Oh yeah I’m just trying to play games  competitively I know most of the community loves cable management but I’m not crazy on it and could live without. Would these steps still be needed if I just wanted to get it over fast? 

You can skip this: 

 

"now is the time to figure it out and if needed route them between the standoffs to the disered side of the motherboard."

 

Id recommend doing the other steps (for example a extra standof, or one in a different position than the corresponding hole of the mobo could short or damage the mobo if its hidden underneath the motherboard); and it just takes a couple of seconds.

 

but cable managment, yeah can be skipped, it can become the proverbial "rats nest" but as lomg as the connections are correct, the pc wont care at all. Just make sure before power on no cables are touching any gpu or cpu fans since that could turn ugly