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Hi, I may do a PC for a client, however I am intrigued wether I need a NVidia GPU, Radeon GPU or if the iGPU on a Ryzen 5 3400G will suffice. The use case is SketchApp, basic SolidWorks and AutoCAD (2015), alongside Acrobat Pro (Adobe) and MS Office.

 

These are the Specs:

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G APU (4C/8T  3.7GHz Base, 4.2 GHz Boost, 12nm, Zen+)

Graphics: AMD Radeon RX Vega 11 12nm (11CUs, 704SPs, 1750MHz) 

Cooler: AMD Wraith Spire

RAM: 16GB DDR4 3200 CL16 (2x8GB)

Motherboard: ASRock B450M Steel Legend

Storage: WD Blue 3D NAND M.2 SATA SSD (500GB) OR AddLink S70 M.2 NVMe SSD 512GB 

PSU: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Semi Modular PSU

Case: Cooler Master NR400 mATX Mini Tower

 

If a dGPU is needed these are the options due to local pricing and availability (I’m not in the US rn)

 

Nvidia: GeForce GTX 1660Ti (12nm, Turing TU116, 1536 CUDA Cores, 6GB GDDR6)

AMD: Radeon RX 590 (12nm, GCN 4 Polaris, Polaris 30, 36CUs, 2304SPs, 8GB GDDR5)

 

If a dGPU is selected CPU will be changed to a Ryzen 5 3600X (Zen2, 7nm, 6C/12T, 3.9GHz Base, 4.4 GHz Boost) due to local availability the 3600 is not an option currently. Also PSU would be upgraded to a 650W Model.

 

So, do you think the 3400G and its Vega 11 iGPU will suffice for basic AutoCAD and SolidWorks or should I go for a dGPU, and if that’s the case, for this use case in particular, is Radeon or Nvidia recommended?

 

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The 1660ti and a 3600x is much better

You don't need a 650W for that combo

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Just now, GDRRiley said:

The 1660ti and a 3600x is much better

You don't need a 650W for that combo

Its also a lot more expensive, but is it needed or does the 3400G meet the minimum spec? Like we are talking $149 vs $219 + $279 for the other combo

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1 minute ago, DanielMDA said:

Its also a lot more expensive, but is it needed or does the 3400G meet the minimum spec? Like we are talking $149 vs $219 + $279 for the other combo

that should meet mini spec but how well it will do I don't know

Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST

NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT  Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500 gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow.
GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D

Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS

Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450.

Spirt  (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped

PSU Tier List      Motherboard Tier List     SSD Tier List     How to get PC parts cheap    HP probook 445R G6 review

 

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8 minutes ago, DanielMDA said:

Its also a lot more expensive, but is it needed or does the 3400G meet the minimum spec? Like we are talking $149 vs $219 + $279 for the other combo

AutoCAD is a demanding use case. The 3400G can run it but anything past a cube will be a nightmare to work on. Get the Ryzen 5 3600 and a 1660 Ti. The 3600X is not needed.

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1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

AutoCAD is a demanding use case. The 3400G can run it but anything past a cube will be a nightmare to work on. Get the Ryzen 5 3600 and a 1660 Ti. The 3600X is not needed.

Sadly 3600 non X is not available.

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34 minutes ago, DanielMDA said:

Its also a lot more expensive, but is it needed or does the 3400G meet the minimum spec? Like we are talking $149 vs $219 + $279 for the other combo

Get a used 2600 from aliexpress

Please tag me @Windows9 so I can see your reply

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27 minutes ago, DanielMDA said:

Sadly 3600 non X is not available.

Yes it is https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07STGGQ18?tag=pcp0f-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Processors/AMD+CPUs/Ryzen+5+-+Socket+AM4/AMD+Ryzen+5+3600+3.6GHz+6x+Core+Processor+with+Wraith+Stealth+Cooler?productId=71488&utm_source=uk.pcpartpicker.com&utm_medium=referral

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2 minutes ago, redbrickwhale said:

Yes it is https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07STGGQ18?tag=pcp0f-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Processors/AMD+CPUs/Ryzen+5+-+Socket+AM4/AMD+Ryzen+5+3600+3.6GHz+6x+Core+Processor+with+Wraith+Stealth+Cooler?productId=71488&utm_source=uk.pcpartpicker.com&utm_medium=referral

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You posted UK links. 

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Just now, James Evens said:

Autocad runs on a potato. You can't do much on it but for drawing a single qube it would be good enough.

Depending on your basic a 3400G is enough. 

Then I will buy the 3400G, it is just for viewing in AutoCAD, not much more

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46 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Then 3600X + 1660 Ti. It's worth it. Along with 16GB RAM

Does SolidWorks and AutoCAD like Nvidia better than Radeon then? Despite Radeon crazy good OpenCL perf

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Does SolidWorks and AutoCAD like Nvidia better than Radeon then? Despite Radeon crazy good OpenCL perf

a bit yes. Both work, just the 1660 Ti will work better than the 580

 

2 minutes ago, DanielMDA said:

Then I will buy the 3400G, it is just for viewing in AutoCAD, not much more

It'll be a shitshow. You've been warned

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35 minutes ago, Brennan Price said:

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You posted UK links. 

My bad sorry

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On 6/1/2020 at 6:46 AM, 5x5 said:

a bit yes. Both work, just the 1660 Ti will work better than the 580

 

It'll be a shitshow. You've been warned

@GDRRiley Anupdate on the workloads, the 3400G will only use AutoCAD in 2D, afaik that’s not as demanding and 3400G should run it decently (2D). What are your thoughts?

 

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5 minutes ago, DanielMDA said:

@GDRRiley Anupdate on the workloads, the 3400G will only use AutoCAD in 2D, afaik that’s not as demanding and 3400G should run it decently (2D). What are your thoughts?

 

still get the D GPU system. even if its only a 3100x

Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST

NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT  Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500 gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow.
GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D

Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS

Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450.

Spirt  (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped

PSU Tier List      Motherboard Tier List     SSD Tier List     How to get PC parts cheap    HP probook 445R G6 review

 

"Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid."

Camera Gear: X-S10, 16-80 F4, 60D, 24-105 F4, 50mm F1.4, Helios44-m, 2 Cos-11D lavs

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