Is 2080 Super Overkill?

[Comedy Man 44]

Hey everyone,

 

I am thinking about getting a GTX 2080 Super with Ryzen 3700x and 32gb 3600 DDR4 ram and I'm wondering if its overkill given that my monitor is 1080p 60hz. I want to get a good GPU to last a while but also don't want to pay a premium for something that I will not be able to see the benefit from. For reference I am planning to play games like COD Warzone and BF5. Thanks!

[crispychickenwater]

Extremely overkill, but i would do it anyway. If you ever want to upgrade to a 1440p, 144hz, this will push every game at that resolution on very high settings very well. 

[Comedy Man 44]

Just now, crispychickenwater said:

Extremely overkill, but i would do it anyway. If you ever want to upgrade to a 1440p, 144hz, this will push every game at that resolution on very high settings very well. 

What do you think is a more appropriate GPU as I honestly dont see myself upgrading the monitor for a long time- long enough time that I will have bought a new GPU by that point honestly. Thanks!

[crispychickenwater]

for 1080p 60hz on max settings, i would go for a 2070 super. This will push modern warfare and battlefield 5 at max settings 1080p60 and games that will be coming out in the future

[DailyProcrastinator]

11 minutes ago, Comedy Man 44 said:

I am thinking about getting a GTX 2080 Super with Ryzen 3700x and 32gb 3600 DDR4 ram and I'm wondering if its overkill given that my monitor is 1080p 60hz. I want to get a good GPU to last a while but also don't want to pay a premium for something that I will not be able to see the benefit from. For reference I am planning to play games like COD Warzone and BF5. Thanks!

Very, and not particularly good value either, the RX 5700XT makes a lot sense, even though it to is overkill. But you could get an RX 5700xt plus a 1440p 144Hz 1ms  FreeSync display for less than a 2080S. Also, not giving up much performance either, the 2060S, 2070S, and 2080S no longer make any sense in my opinion.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
Video Card	XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB THICC II Video Card	$369.99 @ Best Buy
Monitor	HP 27xq 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor	$284.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$654.97
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-30 20:44 EDT-0400

2080S: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RqkgXL/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-super-8-gb-video-card-900-1g180-2540-000

 

 

[greeatzy]

2 minutes ago, Comedy Man 44 said:

Hey everyone,

 

I am thinking about getting a GTX 2080 Super with Ryzen 3700x and 32gb 3600 DDR4 ram and I'm wondering if its overkill given that my monitor is 1080p 60hz. I want to get a good GPU to last a while but also don't want to pay a premium for something that I will not be able to see the benefit from. For reference I am planning to play games like COD Warzone and BF5. Thanks!

Option 1: Buy 2080 Super and then save money to buy a better monitor in near future. For example: ASUS ROG Strix XG248Q 23.8” Gaming Monitor Full HD 1080P 240Hz 1ms Eye Care G-Sync Compatible Adaptive Sync Esports with DP Dual HDMI which is cca. 300$

Option 2: Buy 2070 Super which will save you 100-150$ compared to 2080 Super. Then add some money to buy1440p 144Hz Monitor

[Comedy Man 44]

Just now, NZgamer said:

What's your current setup?

My current setup is really bad. 

 

CPU: I5-2320 

GPU: GTX 770

Memory: 16GB

 

Nothing else is notable except that there is an SSD (Samsung EVO), but when I try to play COD Warzone it crashes, also my computer will sometimes just crash as well. I think it's because I bought a crappy PSU a long time ago. In general my system is in need of an upgrade. 

 

[Kisai]

14 minutes ago, Comedy Man 44 said:

Hey everyone,

 

I am thinking about getting a GTX 2080 Super with Ryzen 3700x and 32gb 3600 DDR4 ram and I'm wondering if its overkill given that my monitor is 1080p 60hz. I want to get a good GPU to last a while but also don't want to pay a premium for something that I will not be able to see the benefit from. For reference I am planning to play games like COD Warzone and BF5. Thanks!

 

The only game out there that no GPU is powerful enough is FFXV. This is because the PC version uses a lot of nVidia API fluff.  For all other games, you will need to look and see if it uses the nVidia gameworks libraries. Because if it doesn't, then the RT portion of the card is essentially wasted.

[Comedy Man 44]

6 minutes ago, greeatzy said:

Option 1: Buy 2080 Super and then save money to buy a better monitor in near future. For example: ASUS ROG Strix XG248Q 23.8” Gaming Monitor Full HD 1080P 240Hz 1ms Eye Care G-Sync Compatible Adaptive Sync Esports with DP Dual HDMI which is cca. 300$

Option 2: Buy 2070 Super which will save you 100-150$ compared to 2080 Super. Then add some money to buy1440p 144Hz Monitor

Thanks for the response, another user mentioned that RX5700XT is a better value than 2070 Super, do you agree. Also do you think that my ram is overkill too, or is it fine? 

[Comedy Man 44]

18 minutes ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

Very, and not particularly good value either, the RX 5700XT makes a lot sense, even though it to is overkill. But you could get an RX 5700xt plus a 1440p 144Hz 1ms  FreeSync display for less than a 2080S. Also, not giving up much performance either, the 2060S, 2070S, and 2080S no longer make any sense in my opinion.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
Video Card	XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB THICC II Video Card	$369.99 @ Best Buy
Monitor	HP 27xq 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor	$284.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$654.97
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-30 20:44 EDT-0400

2080S: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RqkgXL/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-super-8-gb-video-card-900-1g180-2540-000

 

 

Thanks for posting this. I see that the 5700XT has good value from that video, do you think that my ram is overkill? 

[DailyProcrastinator]

4 minutes ago, Comedy Man 44 said:

Thanks for posting this. I see that the 5700XT has good value from that video, do you think that my ram is overkill? 

16GB is not overkill but you have a dated system. If you upgrade GPU expect a bottleneck.

 

For the cost of a 2080S you can get a new system:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$119.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$99.99 @ B&H
Memory	Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$69.99 @ Newegg
Storage	HP EX900 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$61.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	XFX Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB THICC II Pro Video Card	$279.99 @ B&H
Power Supply	be quiet! Pure Power 11 CM 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$89.90 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$721.85
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-30 21:15 EDT-0400

 

[Comedy Man 44]

1 minute ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

16GB is not overkill but you have a dated system. If you upgrade GPU expect a bottleneck.

 

For the cost of a 2080S you can get a new system:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$119.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$99.99 @ B&H
Memory	Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$69.99 @ Newegg
Storage	HP EX900 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$61.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	XFX Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB THICC II Pro Video Card	$279.99 @ B&H
Power Supply	be quiet! Pure Power 11 CM 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$89.90 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$721.85
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-30 21:15 EDT-0400

 

yeah in the original post I put that I'm getting a ryzen 3700x and 32GB DDR4 3600- was wondering if this ram was overkill

[DailyProcrastinator]

2 minutes ago, Comedy Man 44 said:

yeah in the original post I put that I'm getting a ryzen 3700x and 32GB DDR4 3600- was wondering if this ram was overkill

Ahhh my bad, are you located in the US? 

[Comedy Man 44]

1 minute ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

Ahhh my bad, are you located in the US? 

yes

[DailyProcrastinator]

1 minute ago, Comedy Man 44 said:

yes

This is my recommendation: 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$298.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler	Deepcool Neptwin RGB 56.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$49.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard	$144.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$83.99 @ Newegg
Storage	HP EX900 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$61.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Video Card	$383.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$98.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1122.91
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-30 21:27 EDT-0400

A 3600MHz Cl16 kit is only like $13 more, so worth it.

[Dedayog]

56 minutes ago, Comedy Man 44 said:

Hey everyone,

 

I am thinking about getting a GTX 2080 Super with Ryzen 3700x and 32gb 3600 DDR4 ram and I'm wondering if its overkill given that my monitor is 1080p 60hz. I want to get a good GPU to last a while but also don't want to pay a premium for something that I will not be able to see the benefit from. For reference I am planning to play games like COD Warzone and BF5. Thanks!

Yeah, like buying  Corvette and driving in neighborhood streets.

 

WHy are you stubborn about buying a better monitor?  What makes your 1080p/60z so good?

[Darkseth]

There is no Overkill when it comes to GPU.

You will always find a way to bring it down

 

 

1080p / 60 Hz Monitor?

No Problem:

- Nvidia Driver -> 3D Settings -> "DSR" -> activate the x4.00 Setting (DSR Smoothness can be reduced to 0-20%).

 

When you start your Game, open  Graphic Settings, change resolution to 3840x2160.

 

Your Computer will render the Game in 4k Resolution, and scale it down to your 1080p Monitor.
It's not the "real 4k" experience, but it comes really damn close.

 

 

still: I would suggest upgrading your Monitor. Having native 1440p gives many benefits,even in Desktop. Especially when you combine it with 144 Hz and Freesync/G-Sync Compatible.

1440p Can also use DSR, and go up to 5k Render Resolution (x2,25 will make 1440p -> 4k).

Or a real native 4k / 120 Hz Monitor.

 

 

Because let's be honest. If you have 1200+ bucks to get a 2080 ti, you HAVE enough money (no discussion, you HAVE it. Period) for a 300-500 bucks Monitor.

 

 

 

Let's be Real: If you don't use DSR; and just use the Monitor resolution + ingame settings. No matter which Graphics card you buy. You could wait 10 years and buy a RTX 5080 ti, and everything will look like Garbage. Because your Monitor is the Bottleneck by having a low Resolution - yes, 1080p is a very low resolution. Ver ylow in details, alot of flickering on the edges, etc etc.

The Graphic performance won't get you anywhere,if your Display can't show it to you.

 

 

So the least you can do: DSR, and game in virtual 4k. I'm sure, you will see for yourself, why you should invest in a better Monitor

Just... you can't simulate more than 60 Hz. And THIS is sadly what First Person Shooter Games benefit the most from.

[greeatzy]

12 hours ago, Comedy Man 44 said:

Thanks for the response, another user mentioned that RX5700XT is a better value than 2070 Super, do you agree. Also do you think that my ram is overkill too, or is it fine? 

Here are screenshots comparing RX 5700XT v 2070 Super:

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RTX 2070 Super has the NVENC encoder which is really good if you plan to stream.

I would recommend for you to watch this video from Linus where I got the screenshots from.

16GB of RAM in 2020 is a must have because slowly games are increasing their RAM usage. 32GB is good if you plan to edit, render videos etc. (workstation stuff).

 

Here is a cca. 2000$ Gaming PC

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($298.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM SE 63 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($155.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($199.00 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair MP600 Force Series Gen4 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($414.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card  ($533.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($125.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1918.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-31 09:51 EDT-0400

 

[Mick Naughty]

No such thing as overkill. I’d use it for 1080p assuming I could get a cpu to support that.