2600x and GTX 1650S Build!

[SansVarnic]

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[iMxmo]

I'm working on a pc build as of right now. I have the motherboard and the case with me. It is a P300A Mesh and the ASRock B450 Steel Legend. Whilst scrolling through micro center I picked out these parts. If I could get some advice or recommendations to save a bit more money that would be great. I actually have a GTX 1650 Super, but I'm looking to exchange it for a 1660 Super when I go to pick up these parts.

 

Any comments or tips would be really helpful! Thanks in advance

[boggy77]

the psu seems expensive for a cxm. see if you can get a 450w cx or 550w cx instead.

you can get a 1tb ssd instead of the 500gb ssd + 1tb hdd.

not much else to be saved.

[iMxmo]

1 minute ago, boggy77 said:

the psu seems expensive for a cxm. see if you can get a 450w cx or 550w cx instead.

you can get a 1tb ssd instead of the 500gb ssd + 1tb hdd.

not much else to be saved.

Any 1TB SSD's you could recommend? Also I'll try checking out different PSU's

[boggy77]

1 minute ago, iCypticx said:

Any 1TB SSD's you could recommend? Also I'll try checking out different PSU's

Crucial P1 1TB SSD 3D QLC NAND M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive

 

[WkdPaul]

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[iMxmo]

19 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

Crucial P1 1TB SSD 3D QLC NAND M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive

 

Thanks! On the PSU side I found a 500W Thermaltake PSU contrary to the CX550W Semi Modular. The price difference is 45 bucks which is sweet, thanks.

[iMxmo]

Just now, iCypticx said:

Thanks! On the PSU side I found a 500W Thermaltake PSU contrary to the CX550W Semi Modular. The price difference is 45 bucks which is sweet, thanks.

Nevermind, it's not even 80 plus bronze. 

[boggy77]

get this one from newegg instead of microcenter

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cY2bt6/corsair-cv-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020211-na

[iMxmo]

Just now, iCypticx said:

Nevermind, it's not even 80 plus bronze. 

I found a https://www.microcenter.com/product/485311/powerspec-550-watt-80-plus-bronze-atx-non-modular-power-supply Powerspecc one for 550W 80 plus bronze, I don't know if they are a reliable company because I have never worked their products. 

[iMxmo]

Just now, boggy77 said:

get this one from newegg instead of microcenter

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cY2bt6/corsair-cv-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020211-na

Isn't 650W a bit much?

[boggy77]

Just now, iCypticx said:

Isn't 650W a bit much?

doesn't matter. it's the cheapest decent psu.

[iMxmo]

23 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

doesn't matter. it's the cheapest decent psu.

yea i suppose you're right.

[merco]

Since you are on a tight budget consider this: if you have a 1650 super I would not buy a 1660 super. It is a slight upgrade but unless you can sell your 1650 super for nearly full price it is not worth the additional cost.

 

check out some benchmarks https://youtu.be/2noWrsE0DmM

 

A lot of games are perfectly playable with the 1650 super at high/max settings. What kind of monitor are you driving with it?

If you want to upgrade your GPU to use a 144 hz monitor with it or a 1440p model, the 1660 super would arguably not be much better at that than the 1650 super is. You would have to spend a bit more on a better GPU like the 2060 or 5600xt. If you are staying at 1080p 60hz the upgrade from 1650s to 1660s is downright useless in my eyes. Just drop your details a little bit and you are fine until you can afford a better card. Only buy a better card if you need it for your monitor. Save $200 that way.

 

[iMxmo]

47 minutes ago, merco said:

Since you are on a tight budget consider this: if you have a 1650 super I would not buy a 1660 super. It is a slight upgrade but unless you can sell your 1650 super for nearly full price it is not worth the additional cost.

 

check out some benchmarks https://youtu.be/2noWrsE0DmM

 

A lot of games are perfectly playable with the 1650 super at high/max settings. What kind of monitor are you driving with it?

If you want to upgrade your GPU to use a 144 hz monitor with it or a 1440p model, the 1660 super would arguably not be much better at that than the 1650 super is. You would have to spend a bit more on a better GPU like the 2060 or 5600xt. If you are staying at 1080p 60hz the upgrade from 1650s to 1660s is downright useless in my eyes. Just drop your details a little bit and you are fine until you can afford a better card. Only buy a better card if you need it for your monitor. Save $200 that way.

 

Well, I'm planning on using a 144hz 2ms response time monitor. I'm pretty sure its 1920x1080. Also if that won't do much of a difference I just sold something for 80 extra bucks. So do you recommend going for the GTX 1660Ti? Will that bottleneck the 2600x? Should I use those 80 extra bucks towards something else? I'm just really lost here at this point

[iMxmo]

Will a 1660Ti bottleneck a Ryzen 5 2600x??

[merco]

6 hours ago, iCypticx said:

So do you recommend going for the GTX 1660Ti

No I recommend to stick with the 1650 super you already have. What I meant was even if you have a 144hz monitor, it will probably not run much worse than a 1660 super or a 1660 TI would. The small bump in performance is not worth the extra money it would cost you to switch to either of these cards if you ask me. You can't go wrong if you wait and see how the 1650 super performs in your new system. 

 

The question then is what games do you actually play with it and how do they run? Do you then have to lower your settings too much to get to your 144 fps target? If the answer is no, you saved a bunch of money. If the answer is yes, you can always upgrade your GPU later (In that case I would save a bit more and get a 2060 or a 5600xt).

[LienusLateTips]

7 hours ago, iCypticx said:

Will a 1660Ti bottleneck a Ryzen 5 2600x??

No, but you should stick with the 1650S since you already have it.

 

If the exchange is cost free, find a GTX 1660S or RX 5600XT. The latter is more expensive, but is closer to the RTX 2060. Also, if you're buying the latter, make sure it's a factory OC model.

[iMxmo]

11 hours ago, merco said:

No I recommend to stick with the 1650 super you already have. What I meant was even if you have a 144hz monitor, it will probably not run much worse than a 1660 super or a 1660 TI would. The small bump in performance is not worth the extra money it would cost you to switch to either of these cards if you ask me. You can't go wrong if you wait and see how the 1650 super performs in your new system. 

 

The question then is what games do you actually play with it and how do they run? Do you then have to lower your settings too much to get to your 144 fps target? If the answer is no, you saved a bunch of money. If the answer is yes, you can always upgrade your GPU later (In that case I would save a bit more and get a 2060 or a 5600xt).

I mainly play esports games, fortnite, overwatch, you know stuff with floaty graphics. On the FPS hand I am bottle necking seriously hard as of now. I have the gtx 1650s with an fx 6300. I do have to lower effects in games and that doesn't even hit 144 90% of the time. I guess you're right, it's the bottle neck and I should just wait to see how it performs in the new system.

[iMxmo]

11 hours ago, LienusLateTips said:

No, but you should stick with the 1650S since you already have it.

 

If the exchange is cost free, find a GTX 1660S or RX 5600XT. The latter is more expensive, but is closer to the RTX 2060. Also, if you're buying the latter, make sure it's a factory OC model.

Yeah, Micro center has some factory over clocked versions.

[merco]

16 minutes ago, iCypticx said:

1650s with an fx 6300

 

yeah that cpu is so old that it drags your performance down a lot

 

I'd say this is about the performance you can get this guy has like 270 average fps on fortnite competitive settings, epic settings would probably be around 80 or something. 

https://youtu.be/tk83PCVZ-hY?t=1597

 

later in that video about 110 fps in overwatch at epic settings. 

https://youtu.be/tk83PCVZ-hY?t=2191

 

It was just a quick search, as you can see that's with the normal r5 2600 and the 1650s for example.

I think the performance is fine with this for esports titles like that, and if you want to upgrade in the future you can look at faster cards then. 

[iMxmo]

Just now, merco said:

 

yeah that cpu is so old that it drags your performance down a lot

 

I'd say this is about the performance you can get this guy has like 270 average fps on fortnite competitive settings, epic settings would probably be around 80 or something. 

https://youtu.be/tk83PCVZ-hY?t=1597

 

later in that video about 110 fps in overwatch at epic settings. 

https://youtu.be/tk83PCVZ-hY?t=2191

 

It was just a quick search, as you can see that's with the normal r5 2600 and the 1650s for example.

I think the performance is fine with this for esports titles like that, and if you want to upgrade in the future you can look at faster cards then. 

thanks for the help!

[iMxmo]

Here is the new build, applied some major optimizations and some budget issues.
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q4qhBZ

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($85.00) 
Motherboard: ASRock B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($69.99) 
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card  (Purchased For $169.99) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  ($73.23) 
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.99) 
Total: $693.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-01 11:05 EDT-0400

[LienusLateTips]

5 hours ago, iCypticx said:

Here is the new build, applied some major optimizations and some budget issues.
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q4qhBZ

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($85.00) 
Motherboard: ASRock B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($69.99) 
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card  (Purchased For $169.99) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  ($73.23) 
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.99) 
Total: $693.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-01 11:05 EDT-0400

Return that PSU. It's not a very good quality.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cY2bt6/corsair-cv-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020211-na

This is your best bet.

[iMxmo]

1 hour ago, LienusLateTips said:

Return that PSU. It's not a very good quality.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cY2bt6/corsair-cv-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020211-na

This is your best bet.

I actually picked out the https://www.newegg.com/phanteks-amp-series-ph-p550g-us01-550w/p/N82E16817987008?Item=N82E16817987008. Is that good instead?