cant fix stutter issues after gpu upgrade

[bmx6454]

I recently purchased a used asus rog strix 1070 gaming oc card (not a mining card), it replaced a 1050ti. i am now having an issue with micro stutter's in game. the fps is very good, usually 80-130fps on high/ultra settings depending on the game, never below 60fps. it stutters most noticeably on pubg, but also on every game i run to some degree. The stutter is present even if i turn all settings in-game to their absolute lowest, or highest. The stutters are definitely worse the higher the settings are, but are still present no matter what. capping fps at 80 or lower seems to help a lot, but not eliminate. it seems to be way better with vsync, but not gone entirely, and i would rather not run vsync to sacrifice fps. there does seem to be a correlation between stutter and gpu utilization, but not always. there also seems to be a correlation between possible cpu bottleneck, and stutter, but if fps is capped, cpu utilization drops to 75% and below, with still slight stutter. if my cpu is the issue, i have already considered this, but cant find a good way to test it, and don't have access to another cpu. i also have no access to another pc to test the gpu. Gpu temps seem okay, 52c idle, 65-75c max load, which i thought was high, but research has told me is normal for a strix? i have read every guide/fix i could find, and tried all suggestions to no avail. i have tried ddu, twice, removing geforce entirely, rolling back gpu drivers, changing settings every which way, removing all overlays, and messing with my cpu overclock, and ram speeds. I have not attempted a clean win10 install, i will if there is no other options, but i would absolutely rather not as its taken me a long time to get everything exactly how i want it. I do have other ssd's i could throw a copy of win10 on to try, if this seems like a test worth the effort, as they are currently occupied in my laptops. Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.

specs:
Windows 10 pro x64
15 6600k @ 3900, or 4400
16gb (8x2) corsair vengeance lpx 3000 @ 2133
asrock z270 extreme 4
asus rog strix gtx 1070 gaming oc
vizeo 55' 1080p @60hz?
500gb 970 evo plus m.2
1tb hdd @ 7200rpm (not used in gaming or os, just storage)
evga bronze 500w psu
blu-ray drive

[GDRRiley]

your 6600k will often bottleneck a 1070. the 6600k has not aged well I just swaped mine for a r7 2700.

don't run anything in the background close every single tab or thing open.

 

[AngryBeaver]

9 minutes ago, bmx6454 said:

I recently purchased a used asus rog strix 1070 gaming oc card (not a mining card), it replaced a 1050ti. i am now having an issue with micro stutter's in game. the fps is very good, usually 80-130fps on high/ultra settings depending on the game, never below 60fps. it stutters most noticeably on pubg, but also on every game i run to some degree. The stutter is present even if i turn all settings in-game to their absolute lowest, or highest. The stutters are definitely worse the higher the settings are, but are still present no matter what. capping fps at 80 or lower seems to help a lot, but not eliminate. it seems to be way better with vsync, but not gone entirely, and i would rather not run vsync to sacrifice fps. there does seem to be a correlation between stutter and gpu utilization, but not always. there also seems to be a correlation between possible cpu bottleneck, and stutter, but if fps is capped, cpu utilization drops to 75% and below, with still slight stutter. if my cpu is the issue, i have already considered this, but cant find a good way to test it, and don't have access to another cpu. i also have no access to another pc to test the gpu. Gpu temps seem okay, 52c idle, 65-75c max load, which i thought was high, but research has told me is normal for a strix? i have read every guide/fix i could find, and tried all suggestions to no avail. i have tried ddu, twice, removing geforce entirely, rolling back gpu drivers, changing settings every which way, removing all overlays, and messing with my cpu overclock, and ram speeds. I have not attempted a clean win10 install, i will if there is no other options, but i would absolutely rather not as its taken me a long time to get everything exactly how i want it. I do have other ssd's i could throw a copy of win10 on to try, if this seems like a test worth the effort, as they are currently occupied in my laptops. Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.

specs:
Windows 10 pro x64
15 6600k @ 3900, or 4400
16gb (8x2) corsair vengeance lpx 3000 @ 2133
asrock z270 extreme 4
asus rog strix gtx 1070 gaming oc
vizeo 55' 1080p @60hz?
500gb 970 evo plus m.2
1tb hdd @ 7200rpm (not used in gaming or os, just storage)
evga bronze 500w psu
blu-ray drive

Noticed you didn't mention your cpu temps and what cooler it was using. Also that is a quad core without hyperthreading so depending on the game it could be starting to show it's age, but increasing game settings should reduce cpu load.

 

Anyways I would be curious to know what your cpu temps are and what you are cooling it with.

[DailyProcrastinator]

Welcome to the forum!

 

23 minutes ago, bmx6454 said:

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Micro stuttering can also be a side effect of your FPS being significantly higher than your monitors refresh rate. What is your monitors refresh rate? 

 

Easy way to confirm if that is the issue is to turn V-sync on in the games that your are experiencing issues with. 

[TylerDurden!]

install and run this

 

https://www.resplendence.com/latencymon

 

what does it say?

 

[bmx6454]

oh, sorry, forgot the cpu temps. h60 cooler, idles at 30c, max load 50-55c usually. cpu usage is typically between 90-100% when the stutter is at its worst, but still get stutter when its at 75% or below, but noticeably better. My screen is 120hz, and my pc was at 60hz, but i forced it to 120hz with no noticeable difference. Vsync makes it better, but not gone entirely, and the fps is not ideal with vsync. i ran latencymon, not sure if you meant the first page, never used this software, also not sure if i'm meant to run it while playing a game.

[bmx6454]

this was while playing gta 5

[bmx6454]

another thing possibly relevant would be that i just noticed, at least only in gta 5 so far, that in random spots the game will get laggy to the point of unplayable, only specific areas, and every time. gpu usage will drop to 0-30%, and cpu usage will be at like 25-45%. don't know whats causing that, but i assume its related.

[bmx6454]

I'm going to install a new ssd with a fresh copy of win10 to check if that might be the issue, but any other suggestions?? i cant figure this out...

[bmx6454]

after installing a fresh copy of win10, everything ran waaaay better. games running at way better fps aswell, although fps wasn't the issue. it will still micro stutter, but only when the cpu is between 94%-100%, but most of the time completely stutter free. gpu usage also immediately drops when cpu usage gets high, so definitive bottleneck?? i could be wrong, but the conclusion i'm drawing from this is that its 100% the fault of the cpu, its only running better on a fresh win10 as there is definitely no background programs to take up any cpu?? hoping someone could confirm this before i get another cpu and mobo. thanks in advance.

[SavageNeo]

7 hours ago, bmx6454 said:

after installing a fresh copy of win10, everything ran waaaay better. games running at way better fps aswell, although fps wasn't the issue. it will still micro stutter, but only when the cpu is between 94%-100%, but most of the time completely stutter free. gpu usage also immediately drops when cpu usage gets high, so definitive bottleneck?? i could be wrong, but the conclusion i'm drawing from this is that its 100% the fault of the cpu, its only running better on a fresh win10 as there is definitely no background programs to take up any cpu?? hoping someone could confirm this before i get another cpu and mobo. thanks in advance.

Try higher resolution since it will put more load on your gpu and less on the cpu

[bmx6454]

On 3/27/2020 at 4:29 AM, SavageNeo said:

Try higher resolution since it will put more load on your gpu and less on the cpu

not the fix to the problem, but sent me down the right path. didn't even remotely consider it, because i never heard of it being an issue, but for some reason the hdmi port i had it on my tv was the issue. switched to a 4k screen to try, worked fine, thought that was my issue. went back to my tv, but used a different port, problems gone?? weird, but sooooo glad its resolved. just to be clear, it still has slight stutter w/o vsync, but it is definitely playable till i upgrade cpu and mobo.thanks everyone for the replies and advice!