R7 3700X OC questions

[Damy-666]

I have a Ryzen 3700x on a MSI Gaming Edge wi-fi with 16GB of ddr4 3000 mhz memory and a Cooler master masterliquid ml240L. When using ryzen master I can get a OC of 4.4 ghz on all cores with 1.3 volt and a max temp of 65C under load. The thing is when i want to go to 4.5ghz the pc crashes and i get different windows blue screen messages, but i do not hit any of the limits on PPT, TDC and EDC. In Ryzen master the max i can get is 4.475 ghz on all cores with EDC on 92%. I am not very experienced in overclocking, but could this be a limit in ryzen master for this specific chip? And if not than what could that be?

Note: with the 4.4 ghz I can play all my games but I cannot run a cinebench r20 test. the r20 software will crash after around 5 seconds of starting the test.

 

question 1: is ryzen master limited to advertist boost clock?

question 2: can I get higher boost clock on the chip through bios? (not very comfortable changing things in bios yet)

question 3: is it common that cinebench crashes on initialization?

 

edit: the questions

[Shogunluffy_1982]

30 minutes ago, Damy-666 said:

I have a Ryzen 3700x on a MSI Gaming Edge wi-fi with 16GB of ddr4 3000 mhz memory and a Cooler master masterliquid ml240L. When using ryzen master I can get a OC of 4.4 ghz on all cores with 1.3 volt and a max temp of 65C under load. The thing is when i want to go to 4.5ghz the pc crashes and i get different windows blue screen messages, but i do not hit any of the limits on PPT, TDC and EDC. In Ryzen master the max i can get is 4.475 ghz on all cores with EDC on 92%. I am not very experienced in overclocking, but could this be a limit in ryzen master for this specific chip? And if not than what could that be?

Note: with the 4.4 ghz I can play all my games but I cannot run a cinebench r20 test. the r20 software will crash after around 5 seconds of starting the test.

 

question 1: is ryzen master limited to advertist boost clock?

question 2: can I get higher boost clock on the chip through bios? (not very comfortable changing things in bios yet)

question 3: is it common that cinebench crashes on initialization?

 

edit: the questions

Higher trough bios i turned pbo on and xfr i try those settings on my 3700x used vcore of 1.35   could be my x370 rog why i did not crashed maybe once  not in cinebench it did on idle and i just downloaded ryzen master too new to this got it 3 days ago.

[For Science!]

13 minutes ago, Brass_01 said:

Higher trough bios i turned pbo on and xfr i try those settings on my 3700x used vcore of 1.35   could be my x370 rog why i did not crashed maybe once  not in cinebench it did on idle and i just downloaded ryzen master too new to this got it 3 days ago.

Unrelated, but did you overclock your memory on this board? was it better/worse/same as when you had previous gen?

[Shogunluffy_1982]

15 minutes ago, For Science! said:

Unrelated, but did you overclock your memory on this board? was it better/worse/same as when you had previous gen?

Speeds or latency got it to run at 3200 was rated at those speeds but ram was designed for intel it works but was not made specially for ryzen id say the same but got high latency 77ns like before reads writes about the same wish i could change latency modify it but i doubt it...

[Damy-666]

13 minutes ago, For Science! said:

Unrelated, but did you overclock your memory on this board? was it better/worse/same as when you had previous gen?

no I only made sure that my memory is running at the xmp profile of 3000mhz at which it is rated.

[Damy-666]

18 minutes ago, Brass_01 said:

Speeds or latency got it to run at 3200 was rated at those speeds but ram was designed for intel it works but was not made specially for ryzen id say the same but got high latency 77ns like before reads writes about the same wish i could change latency modify it but i doubt it...

I heard that dram speed doesnt have a big impact on performance or atleast not as much in comparison to first and second gen ryzen. what are your settings for your OC in bios?

 

[Shogunluffy_1982]

37 minutes ago, Damy-666 said:

I heard that dram speed doesnt have a big impact on performance or atleast not as much in comparison to first and second gen ryzen. what are your settings for your OC in bios?

 

Haha well that's a lot like i said before i  just started to use the new setting i have seen here for vrm and dram il take a look in my bios after and take pics i will only show what i have done changed because there is so many options in bios first i use the settings on the right.

[Shogunluffy_1982]

59 minutes ago, Damy-666 said:

I heard that dram speed doesnt have a big impact on performance or atleast not as much in comparison to first and second gen ryzen. what are your settings for your OC in bios?

 

Let me know if that done anything for ya and my new settings helps my ram  got lower latency now i think ill test it again in aida 64.

[Damy-666]

3 hours ago, Brass_01 said:

Let me know if that done anything for ya and my new settings helps my ram  got lower latency now i think ill test it again in aida 64.

I will be able to check this in the weekend due to time constrains, but I will let you know when I adjusted my bios.

[Damy-666]

On 2/10/2020 at 6:24 PM, Brass_01 said:

Let me know if that done anything for ya and my new settings helps my ram  got lower latency now i think ill test it again in aida 64.

I have tried this and at most I can get 4.4ghz. Think that it wont go any higer than that.

[boggy77]

On 2/10/2020 at 3:14 PM, Damy-666 said:

MSI Gaming Edge

this mobo is in Tier D 100A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1800X and 3800X, a tad more than maxed out 2600X, maxed out 2700X in ambient cooling (Cinebench R15).

 

The 3700x will draw 130w+ at 1.3V and the motherboard is simply not capable of providing that power

[Shogunluffy_1982]

5 hours ago, boggy77 said:

this mobo is in Tier D 100A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1800X and 3800X, a tad more than maxed out 2600X, maxed out 2700X in ambient cooling (Cinebench R15).

 

The 3700x will draw 130w+ at 1.3V and the motherboard is simply not capable of providing that power

That should be right if you look at that chart yes those setting were for my board but all of ya knew that.