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Jurrunio

does any have any info about the msi b550 torpedo vrm?

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7 minutes ago, DigitalONE said:

does any have any info about the msi b550 torpedo vrm?

It seems to be a B550 Tomahawk with changes to rear I/O cover, second M.2 slot hasnt got a heatsink and the chipset heatsink became smaller and has no RGB LEDs. I'm not certain they keep the powerstages the same though, so no rating.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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8 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

I'm not certain they keep the powerstages the same though, so no rating.

It's the same 5 phase with 10 ISL99360s. 

 

9 hours ago, DigitalONE said:

does any have any info about the msi b550 torpedo vrm?

Same VRM and basically the same heatsink as the Tomahawk, So Tier S. 

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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11 minutes ago, Haro said:

Same VRM and basically the same heatsink as the Tomahawk, So Tier S. 

*S minus

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

*S minus

Oh; never noticed there was a minus in the 250A tier lol. 

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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On 12/25/2019 at 12:32 PM, Jurrunio said:

I only considered VRM thermals, which the Master is unlikely to survive 300A output (less and weaker powerstages, so heat output will ramp up faster and higher at that point than the C8H) anyway. I'm not talking about the best OC boards, this list is just to stop people from buying underwhelming boards for their CPUs.

 

On 12/23/2019 at 4:10 PM, Jurrunio said:

Credit to:@VegetableStu @GoldenLag @LukeSavenije

 

The following list is based on facts, ranked on power delivery and known problems. The list will include boards that support CPU overclocking available at retail from different brands.

 

There are still differences in performance among boards of the same tier. As a result, those that barely made it into that tier will be in orange while those that are better than others in the same tier are in blue. Unless specified, boards sharing the same name and chipset in different form factors are ranked the same.

 

For advanced users: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Smj5dh97n32wJqm5dkdDcQt8ID7vH52-lKzaaXUUQx8/edit?usp=sharing

 

AMD

 

All current draw figures are based on Prime95 small FFT with AVX unless otherwise specified, in other words the worst case scenario.

 

Only often recommended sku of CPUs in the same generation and core/thread count configuration is named, others share the same rating.

 

Zen scales down frequency and voltage according to EDC (current limit) and TDC (thermal limit) settings of the motherboard so in theory you won’t cook the VRM of any board at stock, you just lose frequency.

 

For tier A and above, due to lack of feasible CPUs that allow testing of the boards at higher current ratings, there are some level on guessing in terms of how much more power the VRM can take.

 

AM4 (Athlon, Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5, Ryzen 7, Ryzen 9)

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Tier S: 300A current draw on little ambient airflow (i.e below a big air cooler in a well-ventilated case), maxed out 5950X and 3950X on liquid nitrogen (LN2) overclocking

Asus: X570 Crosshair VIII Hero, Crosshair VIII Dark Hero

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus XtremeB550 Aorus Master

MSI: X570 Godlike, Creation

 

Tier S-: 250A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 5900X and 3900X on liquid nitrogen (LN2) overclocking

Asus: X570 X570-E, Pro WS Ace, B550 B550-E

Asrock: X570 Taichi, Phantom Gaming X, CreatorB550 Taichi

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Master, B550 Aorus Pro (& AC & AX) (ATX), Vision D

MSI: X570 Ace, Unify, TomahawkB550 Tomahawk, Edge (ATX), Carbon

 

Tier A: 200A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 5950X and 3950X on ambient cooling, 2700x on LN2

Asus: X570 X570-F, TUF Plus, Prime Pro, Crosshair VIII Impact, X570-I, X570-P, B550 B550-A, B550-F, TUF Plus (ATX & mATX & mATX WiFi), X470 Crosshair VII Hero, B450 TUF Pro S (mATX), X370 Crosshair VI Extreme

Asrock: X570 ITX/TB3, B550 Extreme 4, Steel Legend (ATX), Velocita X470 Taichi (Ultimate), X370 Taichi, Professional Gaming

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Ultra, Pro (ATX), B550 Aorus Elite (ATX) X470 Gaming 7

MSI: B550 A-Pro, Gaming Plus, Mortar

 

Tier B: 160A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 5900X and 3900X, 3950x at 1.2V on ambient cooling, maxed out 1800X on LN2

Asus: X470 X470-FX370 Crosshair VI Hero, X370-F

Asrock: X570 Extreme4, Steel Legend, Pro4 (ATX & mATX), Phantom 4, B550 Steel Legend (mATX)

Biostar: X570 GT8, X470 GT8, X370 GT7

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Elite, ITX

MSI: X470 M7 ACGaming Pro Carbon

 

Tier C :125A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2700, 3900x and 5900X at 1.2V on ambient cooling (P95)

Asus: X370 Prime Pro

Asrock: B550 Pro4 (ATX & mATX), Phantom 4

Gigabyte: X570 UD, Gaming X, B550 Aorus Pro (mATX), Gaming XX370 Gaming K7, Gaming 5

MSI: X570 Gaming Pro CarbonB550 Pro-VDH WiFi, Pro-DASH, Bazooka, X470 Gaming Plus (& Max), B450 Gaming Pro Carbon (& Max), Tomahawk (& Max), Gaming Plus ATX (& Max), B450-A Pro (& Max) (ATX), Mortar (& Max), Gaming Plus mATX, Bazooka Plus, Gaming Plus ITX, X370 M7 ACK, XPower Titanium

 

Tier D :100A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1700, 3700X and 5800X, a tad more than maxed out 2600/1600AF, 105W TDP CPUs at stock with downdraft air cooler

Asus: X470 Prime Pro, X470-I, B450 TUF Pro (mATX and ATX), B450-E, B450-F II, B450-I, X370 X370-I, B350 B350-I

Asrock: X470 Master SLI, K4, ITX, B450 Pro4 (mATX and ATX), Pro4-F, K4, M/AC, Steel Legend, ITX, B350 Pro4, K4

Biostar: B550 GTQ

Gigabyte: X470 Gaming 5, Ultra Gaming, B550 Aorus Elite (mATX), Gaming, DS3H, B450 Aorus Elite (mATX), Gaming

MSI: X570 X570-A Pro, Gaming Plus, EdgeX470 Gaming Pro, B450 Pro-VDH (& Max & V2), Bazooka (& Max Wifi & V2), X370 Gaming Pro Carbon, Krait Gaming, SLI Plus, Gaming Plus, Gaming Pro, B350 Gaming Pro Carbon, Krait Gaming

 

Tier E: 75A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1600, 3600 and 5600X, a bit more than maxed out 2500X, 95W TDP CPUs at stock with downdraft air cooler

Asus: B550 B550M-A, X470 TUF Plus, B450 B450-F, TUF Plus (mATX and ATX), Prime Plus, X370 X370-A, B350 B350-F, Prime Plus, TUF Plus

Asrock: B450 HDV, X370 Gaming X, Killer SLI, mITX, K4, Pro4, B350 ITX, HDV, AB350M

Biostar: X470 GTA, GTQ, GTN, X370 GT5, GT3, B350 GT5, GT3, GTN

Gigabyte: B450 Aorus Pro (ATX), Aorus Elite (ATX), Aorus M, Gaming X, S2H, DS3H, ITX, X370 Gaming K5, K3, 3, Gaming, DS3H, B350 Gaming 3, Gaming, DASH, DS3H, AB350N Gaming-WiFi

MSI: B450 Pro-M2 (& Max)B350 Gaming Plus, Tomahawk, PC Mate, Bazooka, Mortar, Pro-VDH, Pro-VH Plus, Pro-VD Plus

 

Tier F: 50A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1200/2200G (CPU only)/3100/3300X or 65W TDP CPUs at stock with downdraft air cooler

Asus: B550 B550M-K, B450 B450M-K, B450M-A, Dragon, B350 B350M-A, B350M-E, B350M-K

Asrock: B450 HDV R4.0, B350 HDV R3.0, HDV R4.0

Biostar: X570 GT, B350 B45M2, HiFi B350S1, ET2

Gigabyte: B350 D3H, D3V, HD3, DS2, B450 B450 H

MSI: B450 Pro-M2 V2, B450M-A Pro, B350 Gaming Pro

 

Tier H2O: Liquid cooled only VRM, quite bad if cooled only with air, tier S if liquid cooled

Asus: X570 Crosshair VIII Formula

Asrock: X570 Aqua

 

Tier W: Workstation features, can appear here and above tiers

Asus: X570 Pro WS Ace (proper ECC certification) 

Asrock rack: X570 D2I, D4U-2L2T, D4I-2T, X470 D4U (ECC cert + KVM switch), D4U2-2T (ECC cert + KVM switch)

 

 

B550 Speculation: If you cant find the board above, then it should be here. If it's already up there, then ignore what it's placed here

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Tier B: Asrock Phantom Gaming ITX, Asus B550-I, Biostar GTA, Gigabyte Aorus Pro ITX, Aorus Pro-P (mATX) MSI Edge ITX

 

Tier C : Asrock B550M-ITX

 

Tier D : Asus Prime B550 Plus, Gigabyte S2H

 

Tier F:  Gigabyte B550M H

 

 

TR4 (Ryzen Threadripper 1xxx and 2xxx) X399

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Tier LN2: 700A current draw under mist of liquid nitrogen and high RPM fan (ambient air? unrealistic), maxed out 2990WX under an awful lot of liquid nitrogen

Asus: Zenith Extreme Alpha

MSI: Creation

 

Tier S: 500A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out (1.35v) 2990WX on ambient cooling (P95), 2970WX on liquid nitrogen

Asus: Zenith Extreme Alpha

MSI: Creation

 

Tier A: 400A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2990WX on ambient cooling (Cinebench R20) or 1.2V in Prime95

Someone occupy here plz

 

Tier B: 350A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2970WX on ambient cooling (P95), 2990WX limited to 1.175v (P95)

Gigabyte: Aorus Xtreme

 

Tier C 300A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2970WX on ambient cooling (Cinebench R20) or 1.2V in Prime95

Asus: Zenith Extreme with cooling kit

 

Tier D 250A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2950X on ambient cooling, 2970WX limited to 1.15v (P95)

Asus: Zenith Extreme

MSI: Gaming Pro Carbon AC, SLI Plus

 

Tier E: 200A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2920X and 1950X on ambient cooling

Asus: X399-E, X399-A

Asrock: Taichi (mATX & ATX), Professional Gaming

Gigabyte: Gaming 7, Designare EX, Aorus Pro

 

Tier F: 150A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1920X on ambient cooling

Asrock: Phantom 6

 

Tier G: 100A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1900X on ambient cooling

Thank god nothing is here

 

sTRX4 (Ryzen Threadripper 3xxx) TRX40 (largely guessing since there's little data)

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Tier S: 500A current draw in low airflow condition (i.e. no case fan blowing over the VRM), maxed out 3990X (1.3v) with watercooling (to the point which it doesnt thermal throttle)

Asus: Zenith II Extreme Alpha, Zenith II Extreme

Gigabyte: Designare, Aorus Master, Aorus Xtreme

MSI: Creator


Tier A: 350A current draw in low airflow condition, 3990X conservative (1.2v) overclock
Asus: Prime Pro, Prime Pro S, TRX40-E, TRX40-XE

 

Tier B: 275A current draw in low airflow condition, 3990X locked to 300W PPT, maxed out 3970X

Gigabyte: Aorus Pro

MSI: Pro WiFi, Pro 10G

Asrock: Taichi

 

Tier C : 225A current draw in low airflow condition, 3970X stock and maxed out 3960X

Asrock: Creator

 

 

Sources:

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Hardwareluxx.deVRM parts table (AM4 B350/X370/B450/X470)

 

Hardware UnboxedMSI X570 UnifyFlagship X570 VRM thermal testAffordable X570 VRM ThermalsBudget X570 VRM Thermals3950X on B450 boardsTRX40 boards with overclocked 3990XSome MSI boardsCheaper B550 board test

 

/u/CR1318 on reddit: Motherboard Tier List

 

Tweaktownbiostar x370gt7biostar x370gtn gamingbiostar a320mh pro gaming

 

BuildzoidGigabyte's Z390 lineupAsrock X470 Master SLIAsrock AB350M Pro 4, AB350 Pro 4 and AB350 Gaming K4ASUS Prime X470-ProAsrock X370 TaichiMSI X470 Gaming PlusMSI B450M Mortar TitaniumGigabyte Z390 Aorus XtremeASUS Maximus XI ApexGigabyte Z390 Aorus UltraMSI MEG X399 CreationGigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro WifiASUS TUF B450M-Pro GamingASUS TUF B450M-Pro GamingAsrock X470 Master SLI / Gaming K4"Asrock X470 Master SLI VRM temperature sensing is broken"EVGA Z370 MicroGigabyte B450M GamingEVGA Z390 FTWGigabyte X370 Gaming K5Asrock X570 Pro4Asus X570 Strix-EGigabyte x570MSI x570Asrock x570Asus x570Asus X570 Prime-PAsus X570 Strix-FGigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra; Gigabyte X570 Gaming X;

 

GN (Buidzoid)Best Motherboards for AMD Ryzen 2018 - AM4 X470 & B450Best Z390 Motherboards for VRMs, 10Gb LAN, Mini-ITX, Micro-ATX (2018)Best AM4 Motherboards for Overclocking (X370 & B350)EVGA X299 DARKMSI Z390 GodlikeASUS Maximus XI HeroASUS Crosshair VI Hero X370ASUS X399 Zenith ExtremeEVGA X299 DARK; MSI X570 Tomahawk

 

BitwitBiostar Racing X370 GTN

 

KitguruMSI TRX40 Creator

 

Sebelas HardwareBiostar Racing X370 GT3

 

hardwareinside.debiostar-racing x370gt5

 

play3r.netbiostar racing x370gt5

 

back2gaming.combiostar racing b350gt5

 

Proclockersbiostar h310mhd pro

 

de8auer: MSI X570 Tomahawk, Asus B550-E and B550M TUF-Plus WiFi

 

XFastest: Biostar B550 GTQ

 

 

Legacy list thread: Those looking to dive into Intel's outdated process node and recycled (for many times) architecture please refer to the old list

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Where does the x570 taichi razer edition go into this? People tell me the VRM is better than the og x570 taichi. Thanks!!! ;)

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5 hours ago, SrPenguinSR said:

 

Where does the x570 taichi razer edition go into this? People tell me the VRM is better than the og x570 taichi. Thanks!!! 😉

Yes, it's now the same as B550 Taichi

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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i own the b450 s2h, while the core VRMs are decent the SoC ones are really bad they get exaggeratedly hot especially in the summer. they barely handle the xmp profile 1 @ 3000mhz with auto gfx clock/vsoc (3200g) . they max out at 95C while if i try 3466mhz on the DRAM they get to 100C + and crash/insta restarts after a few minutes

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Is there a reason there's no information on these boards?

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/NQ7p99,NqsnTW,rhrYcf,9pn8TW/

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23 minutes ago, StaticLightIsMyMind said:

What about that

It's the same VRM as the V1 but slightly differently configured due to some reason, it'd be in the same tier as the V1, so Tier A (200A). 

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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On 7/4/2021 at 8:01 PM, JLCitadel said:

Is there a reason there's no information on these boards?

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/NQ7p99,NqsnTW,rhrYcf,9pn8TW/

Unsure, If I had to guess It'd just be because of a lack of information on the board, or a lack of interest. Pretty vauge  I know, but it's the best I got. I beileve that the x570-i gaming mini is the same as the x570-i, which is listed on the tier list in (iirc) tier-A, and is on the spreadsheet:

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I am NOT a professional and a lot of the time what I'm saying is based on limited knowledge and experience. I'm going to be incorrect at times. 

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17 hours ago, JLCitadel said:

Is there a reason there's no information on these boards?

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/NQ7p99,NqsnTW,rhrYcf,9pn8TW/

now they are

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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8 hours ago, Brok3n But who cares? said:

Unsure, If I had to guess It'd just be because of a lack of information on the board, or a lack of interest. Pretty I know, but it's the best I got. I beileve that the x570-i gaming mini is the same as the x570-i, which is listed on the tier list in (iirc) tier-A, and is on the spreadsheet:

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Wheres the spreadsheet?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Smj5dh97n32wJqm5dkdDcQt8ID7vH52-lKzaaXUUQx8/edit#gid=741394377

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@JurrunioHello! I have got my hands on the Ryzen 3 4350G, I am deciding between AsRock B450M Pro4 and Gigabyte B450M DS3H V2. According to your list the Pro4 is 1 tier higher than the DS3H and also features wise it seems like a better board. Iam gonna pair 3200mhz CL16 2x8GB ram with this build. Would the CPU and MoBo form a good combination?

Thanks!

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7 hours ago, MozardMT said:

@JurrunioHello! I have got my hands on the Ryzen 3 4350G, I am deciding between AsRock B450M Pro4 and Gigabyte B450M DS3H V2. According to your list the Pro4 is 1 tier higher than the DS3H and also features wise it seems like a better board. Iam gonna pair 3200mhz CL16 2x8GB ram with this build. Would the CPU and MoBo form a good combination?

Thanks!

the SOC VRM (which powers the iGPU) has no heatsink, failing the DS3H for use with APUs in gaming

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Hello.

I'm going to assemble a computer and I have two motherboards, I have to choose one.
- Asus rog x570-e (310€)
- Asus rog x570-f (210€)

I would like to know if I need Asus x570-e for the VRM. The connectivity of x570-f, is enough for me.

The components are: 5900x, 3080ti, g.skill 3600cl16, ssd nvme m2. cpu cooler, deepcool assassin III

I plan to overclock with these components, I don't want x570-f VRM to be the limiting factor of the computer.

 

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54 minutes ago, M1gu3l said:

Hello.

I'm going to assemble a computer and I have two motherboards, I have to choose one.
- Asus rog x570-e (310€)
- Asus rog x570-f (210€)

I would like to know if I need Asus x570-e for the VRM. The connectivity of x570-f, is enough for me.

The components are: 5900x, 3080ti, g.skill 3600cl16, ssd nvme m2. cpu cooler, deepcool assassin III

I plan to overclock with these components, I don't want x570-f VRM to be the limiting factor of the computer.

 

VRM wont be an issue for the F, but lack of BIOS flashing capability without a CPU means if you are unfortunate enough to get an older board with BIOS that doesnt support 5th gen, you'll need an older CPU to do the update.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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On 7/17/2021 at 8:55 AM, M1gu3l said:

Hello.

I'm going to assemble a computer and I have two motherboards, I have to choose one.
- Asus rog x570-e (310€)
- Asus rog x570-f (210€)

I would like to know if I need Asus x570-e for the VRM. The connectivity of x570-f, is enough for me.

The components are: 5900x, 3080ti, g.skill 3600cl16, ssd nvme m2. cpu cooler, deepcool assassin III

I plan to overclock with these components, I don't want x570-f VRM to be the limiting factor of the computer.

 

are B550s not an option? If the X570-F does indeed not have bios flashback that's personally a no-go, X570-E is better in this case. Or if you can get B550 the Strix-F is a solid choice, or Strix-E if you need the USB Type C and some other extra features

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Is this motherboard VRM tier list accurate ?

 

S+
ASRock Z490 AQUA
ROG MAXIMUS XIII APEX
ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XIII EXTREME (GLACIAL*)
GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS XTREME (WATERFORCE*)
MSI MPG Z590 CARBON EK X
MSI MEG Z590 GODLIKE

S
ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XIII HERO (*)
ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XII HERO
ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XII EXTREME (*)
ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XII FORMULA
GIGABYTE Z490 AORUS XTREME (WATERFORCE*)
GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS MASTER
GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS ULTRA
MSI MEG Z590 ACE
MSI MEG Z490 UNIFY
MSI MEG Z490 ACE
MSI MEG Z590 UNIFY

A
ASROCK Z590 TAICHI WI-FI
ASROCK Z590 PG VELOCITA
GIGABYTE Z490 AORUS MASTER
MSI MEG Z490 GODLIKE

B
ASROCK Z490 TAICHI
GIGABYTE Z590 VISION G
GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS PRO AX
MSI MPG Z590 GAMING EDGE
MSI MPG Z590 GAMING PLUS
MSI MPG Z590 GAMING FORCE

C
ASUS TUF GAMING Z590-PLUS
ASUS ROG STRIX Z490-E GAMING WI-FI
ASUS ROG STRIX Z590-A GAMING
ASUS ROG STRIX Z590-F GAMING
ASUS ROG STRIX Z590-E GAMING (*)
ASUS PRIME Z590-A
MSI MAG Z590 TOMAHAWK (*)
MSI MAG Z590 TORPEDO
GIGABYTE Z490 AORUS PRO AX
GIGABYTE Z490 AORUS ULTRA
GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS ELITE AX
GIGABYTE Z590 GAMING X
GIGABYTE Z590 VISION D
MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE
MSI Z490 GAMING CARBON

D
ASROCK Z590 STEEL LEGEND (*)
ASROCK Z590 EXTREME
ASUS ROG STRIX Z490-G GAMING
ASUS TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS
GIGABYTE Z490 AORUS ELITE AC
GIGABYTE Z490 VISION D
GIGABYTE Z490 VISION G
GIGABYTE Z590 UD
MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK (*)
MSI Z590 PRO (*)
MSI Z590-A PRO (*)

E
ASROCK Z590 PRO4
ASUS PRIME Z490-A
ASUS PROART Z490-CREATOR
ASUS ROG STRIX Z490-A GAMING
ASUS ROG STRIX Z490-F GAMING
ASUS ROG STRIX Z490-H
GIGABYTE Z490 GAMING X AX

F
ASROCK Z490 EXTREME4 (*)
BIOSTAR RACING Z490GTA EVO
ASROCK Z490 PRO4
ASROCK Z590 PHANTOM GAMING 4
BIOSTAR RACING Z490A SILVER
GIGABYTE Z490 UD AC
MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Plus
MSI Z490-A PRO

(*) = Best in tier

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On the google docs Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro-P (mATX) have the same VRM as Aorus PRO/Elite (ATX). Are they on the same tier now or still the same as the non P model on tier C

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34 minutes ago, victoriasecrets said:

Are they on the same tier now or still the same as the non P model on tier C

The Pro-P is significantly better than the older non P model, and it'd perform similarly  to the ATX Pro/Elite, so it'd be in Tier A/S- according to this list's scale. 

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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I am very confused which motherboard to buy for AMD Ryzen 7 5800 X here are the boards i have looked for not sure they are good if not suggest something else please help me with my build


Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite Wi-Fi am4 atx motherboard

Msi mag x570 tomahawk wifi

Gigabyte X570 Aorus pro Wi-Fi am4 atx motherboard

 

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@Arjunjulka
What country, shops are u buying from ?

New X570S should be widely available (at least msi tomahawk and gigabyte models), so I'd either go with X570S Aorus Master, or MAG X570S Tomahawk Max WiFi. One cool thing is the MSI has the new ALC 4080 audio chips. It's also has WiFi unlike the master, and it's gonna be a bit cheaper.

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2 hours ago, Dogzilla07 said:

@Arjunjulka
What country, shops are u buying from ?

New X570S should be widely available (at least msi tomahawk and gigabyte models), so I'd either go with X570S Aorus Master, or MAG X570S Tomahawk Max WiFi. One cool thing is the MSI has the new ALC 4080 audio chips. It's also has WiFi unlike the master, and it's gonna be a bit cheaper.

I'm from India and i dont know about this board much frankly saying, if this fits in the budget and better than these i can go with it and ya if its available but if not please le me know from these 
i am getting
 

Msi mag x570 tomahawk wifi & Gigabyte X570 Aorus pro Wi-Fi am4 atx motherboard at the same price 


Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite Wi-Fi am4 atx motherboard is less than both of them there is not too much price difference but i can buy these 3 these are in my budget

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