comparsion Which one is better? Pre built gaming desktop

[Leric]

Hello, just wondering which one is better on gaming?

Can anyone sum up those information to get a result for me please? Here is the approx configuration about both.

         Aw.             Cyber power 

price 1058.           1049

gpu.   5700xt.        5700xt

psu.    850w aw.    650w gold

cpu.    I7-9700.       3700x

Motherboard 

 Intel® Z370 Express Chipset And assrock B 550

memory 16gb 2633 MHz.  16Gb 3000mhz

 

 

[Slottr]

The second pc.

 

But how much is it..? I can't imagine Dell/Alienware is giving you a great deal on that

[muito_gostoso]

Men, hard to say about wich one is better, prebuild systems lack of value and alienware is to expensive.

 

 

[Leric]

3 minutes ago, muito_gostoso said:

Men, hard to say about wich one is better, prebuild systems lack of value and alienware is to expensive.

 

 

bro, some times alienware offers extrembly cheap desktop. that's why i am trying to know which one should i go for.

[Leric]

4 minutes ago, Slottr said:

The second pc.

 

But how much is it..? I can't imagine Dell/Alienware is giving you a great deal on that

first one is like 1049 before tax, second one is like 1058 before tax. so i should go for alienware? 

[muito_gostoso]

2 minutes ago, Leric said:

first one is like 1049 before tax, second one is like 1058 before tax. so i should go for alienware? 

alienware is the besto option for 1000 for me

[Slottr]

2 minutes ago, Leric said:

first one is like 1049 before tax, second one is like 1058 before tax. so i should go for alienware? 

Yes

[Leric]

Just now, Slottr said:

Yes

but the cyberpower's ram is like 3000 mhz and with Asrock 550M motherboard. still go for alienware?

[Leric]

2 minutes ago, muito_gostoso said:

alienware is the besto option for 1000 for me

  

but the cyberpower's ram is like 3000 mhz and with Asrock 550M motherboard. still go for alienware?

[Man]

An unknown gaming PC with 'some' AMD hardware (bleh) vs. Dell 'freaking' Alienware^TM with Intel^TM Core i7^TM 9700, eh?

 

If they both cost the same and the Alienware is 100% original and genuine then I've no idea why you're even considering the unknown AMD machine.

 

Go buy that Alienware, mate. 

 

In fact... RUN!

[muito_gostoso]

3 minutes ago, Leric said:

  

but the cyberpower's ram is like 3000 mhz and with Asrock 550M motherboard. still go for alienware?

alienware has better value, you will not notice more ram mhz in most cases, and alienware motherboards are god option, better than the asrock in this case. Alienware is no brainer.

[Juular]

I wouldn't recommend either of them. You can build DIY PC with the same specs for cheaper or get better specs for the same price.

[Leric]

2 minutes ago, Man said:

An unknown gaming PC with 'some' AMD hardware (bleh) vs. Dell 'freaking' Alienware^TM with Intel^TM Core i7^TM 9700?

 

If they both cost the same and the Alienware is 100% original and genuine then I've no idea why you're even considering the unknown AMD machine.

 

Go buy that Alienware, mate. 

 

In fact... RUN!

it is from cyberpower, a prebuilt gaming comapny,  cyberpower's ram is like 3000 mhz and with Asrock 550M motherboard. still go for alienware?

[Leric]

1 minute ago, Juular said:

I wouldn't recommend either of them. You can build DIY PC with the same specs for cheaper or get better specs for the same price.

if i have enough time to learn during the black friday, i would definely do that, but it might be too late

[Juular]

Like this for example, for Intel platform :

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($299.99 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: HP EX900 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB CHALLENGER D OC Video Card  ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Metallic Gear Neo Air ATX Mid Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1065.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-29 01:13 EST-0500

 

[Juular]

Or AMD, but you don't need this CPU for gaming, get R5 3600X instead, will be even cheaper.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: HP EX900 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB CHALLENGER D OC Video Card  ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Metallic Gear Neo Air ATX Mid Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $970.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-29 01:13 EST-0500

[Man]

5 minutes ago, Leric said:

it is from cyberpower, a prebuilt gaming comapny,  cyberpower's ram is like 3000 mhz and with Asrock 550M motherboard. still go for alienware?

You can't be serious!

 

There's no gaming performance difference between 2,666MHz and 3,000MHz. Maybe ~1 FPS in some scenarios, tops. 

 

DO NOT dump the Alienware, just because some unknown AMD machine has 334MHz memory bandwidth advantage over it! That'd be beyond ridiculous, mate.  

[Juular]

The main concern with any prebuild is the quality of components, when you're making a PC yourself from the parts you see you can get better parts than those included in the prebuild. Usually they skimp on PSU and GPU which is most concerning, among other things.

[muito_gostoso]

2 minutes ago, Juular said:

Or AMD, but you don't need this CPU for gaming, get R5 3600X instead, will be even cheaper.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: HP EX900 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB CHALLENGER D OC Video Card  ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Metallic Gear Neo Air ATX Mid Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $970.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-29 01:13 EST-0500

but, remember make the assembly and tune the system, also alienware is prebuild fine tunned.

[Juular]

3 minutes ago, muito_gostoso said:

but, remember make the assembly and tune the system, also alienware is prebuild fine tunned.

Fine tune ? Slap it all together, set RAM XMP profile in BIOS, install Windows and it's done. Yeah, my build doesn't include one, so it's not cheaper per se but you can use Windows for free. And there's no bloatware in DIY PC.

Sure if you don't want to build it yourself or worry that you may mess things up i'd recommend that Dell prebuild too.

[Leric]

6 minutes ago, Man said:

You can't be serious!

 

There's no gaming performance difference between 2,666MHz and 3,000MHz. Maybe ~1 FPS in some scenarios, tops. 

 

DO NOT dump the Alienware, just because some unknown AMD machine has 334MHz memory bandwidth advantage over it! That'd be beyond ridiculous, mate.  

good to know that 

thanks a lot 

the I would return the second machine for Alienware thanks

[Juular]

Waait a minute, that's i7 9700 non-K ... i dunno then.

[Juular]

See, to sum things up, they both have pretty same CPU performance level. But AMD one has better upgrade potential, you'll be able to upgrade to Zen 3\4 eventually while this Intel platform is dead end. The difference in RAM clocks speeds doesn't matter that much. Dell prebuild has bigger SSD, i don't see a gaming PC with just 250GB of storage so you'll probably need to add another SSD to AMD prebuild. We can't say if there's some other differences since they don't list them (PSU, GPU, motherboard) but there are most likely some other critical differences too.

[Leric]

4 minutes ago, Juular said:

Waait a minute, that's i7 9700 non-K ... i dunno then.

Yes. That’s just regular 9700 no k.

thats what I Concerned about. 
should I just keep my order of cyber power or just go for Alienware?

 

[Juular]

Just now, Leric said:

Yes. That’s just regular 9700 no k.

thats what I Concerned about. 
should I just keep my order of cyber power or just go for Alienware?

 

Why wouldn't you go for DIY ? You're afraid to make a build yourself ? If you have Microcenter in your state you can buy all the parts and pay them to build it.