To upgrade or not to upgrade 9900K, That is the question....

[Boyohan]

I am just looking for some input as I am a bit conflicted if an upgrade is necessary or not.

 

I'm considering an upgrade of my CPU to a 9900K but not sure if it is worth it or if I should wait a year or so and get next gen Intel/AMD.

I get the feeling that pretty soon my 8600k won't be enough. 

The VRMs on my Z390-F should be good enough for a 9900K (with a small OC).

My GTX1080 is still decent so I plan to only upgrade my CPU and wait for next gen GPUs. 

My RAM will also be reused (maybe ill buy another 16gb of the same type)

I mostly use my PC for gaming at and I some light work from home (mostly answering emails etc).

 

I was also thinking about going AMD but that would be more expensive as I would need to buy a new mobo as well.

 

To upgrade or not to upgrade....   ?

 

 

 

[Sauron]

Just now, Boyohan said:

I get the feeling that pretty soon my 8600k won't be enough. 

When it's no longer enough, start thinking about upgrades. Before that point, don't. Besides, an 8700k already allows a 1080 to stretch its legs as much as it wants, no need to consider a cpu upgrade before you upgrade your gpu here.

[Princess Luna]

18 minutes ago, Boyohan said:

I get the feeling that pretty soon my 8600k won't be enough.

18 minutes ago, Boyohan said:

My GTX1080 is still decent so I plan to only upgrade my CPU and wait for next gen GPUs

Just keep everything as is and upgrade both together next year when we have Intel 10nm and nVidia 7nm... there's absolutely no point to upgrade *before* it's necessary and an 9900K is overkill for just a vanilla GTX 1080 if all you do is game.

 

[Teddy07]

26 minutes ago, Boyohan said:

I get the feeling that pretty soon my 8600k won't be enough. 

....

My GTX1080 is still decent so I plan to only upgrade my CPU and wait for next gen GPUs.

Why? Have you checked the load?

Don´t let intel or amds marketing fool you. They just want you to spend money.

 

For comparison: I am running a 1070ti with an i7 4790k and see no point in upgrading the cpu.

[Jurrunio]

29 minutes ago, Boyohan said:

My GTX1080 is still decent so I plan to only upgrade my CPU and wait for next gen GPUs. 

then why not wait next gen CPUs at that point? 8600k fast enough for GTX 1080, and that will do.

[Boyohan]

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

then why not wait next gen CPUs at that point?

 

1 hour ago, Sauron said:

When it's no longer enough, start thinking about upgrades.

 

1 hour ago, Princess Luna said:

... there's absolutely no point to upgrade *before* it's necessary

 

 

1 hour ago, Teddy07 said:

see no point in upgrading the cpu.

You are all probably correct.

I keep telling myself the same but these questions keep spinning inside my head  

[Midnitewolf]

I honestly would wait.  Ryzen 4000 is supposed to be coming out next year and rumor has it that it is going to have a significant uptick over the current Ryzen 3000 series.  Also both AMD and Nvidia are releasing next gen GPUs. AMD is rumored to finally have a 2080ti killer with hardware ray tracing coming out 1st half of 2020 and it is sounding like Nvidia is going to answer that initial with a 2080ti Super which will probably drive now Nvidia GPUs pricing a bit.  Also they are rumored to be releasing Amphere Q3 on their new manufacturing process which is supposed give Nvidia cards a huge uptick in performance. They are also supposed to be reigning in their pricing as well so Amphere could end up being cheaper than the current generation.   Basically lots of things going on in 2020 if you can hang in their for another year.

[Boyohan]

44 minutes ago, Midnitewolf said:

I honestly would wait.  Ryzen 4000 is supposed to be coming out next year and rumor has it that it is going to have a significant uptick over the current Ryzen 3000 series.  Also both AMD and Nvidia are releasing next gen GPUs. AMD is rumored to finally have a 2080ti killer with hardware ray tracing coming out 1st half of 2020 and it is sounding like Nvidia is going to answer that initial with a 2080ti Super which will probably drive now Nvidia GPUs pricing a bit.  Also they are rumored to be releasing Amphere Q3 on their new manufacturing process which is supposed give Nvidia cards a huge uptick in performance. They are also supposed to be reigning in their pricing as well so Amphere could end up being cheaper than the current generation.   Basically lots of things going on in 2020 if you can hang in their for another year.

I could absolutely keep my current setup for a year or more. The reason I was considering an upgrade was because the 9900k will be the best CPU for my current setup and it would most likely last me at least 3-5 years with 8c/16t. So it could possibly save money in the long run. But I also dont really need it as my current setup gives me 60-90fps in 1440p on most modern games. And in less demanding games like CS:GO, Overwatch, WoW i get +200 fps. 

[Otto_iii]

Depends how apt you are at reselling the 8600k, If you can find a 9900k at a reasonable price and want to just do a simple upgrade since you already have a reasonable mobo for it and be done for a few years then go for it.  The 8600k still demands a fair bit of $(200-250 USD) on the used market but won't once people realize the prices people are paying might be silly, especially as we start seeing used 3600 and 3700x etc pop up on used market, that eclipse it, which will probably start happening more readily in 3-4 months once countless 3600 and 3700 owners upgrade to used 3900x, that new 3950x owners are offloading when said chip finally gets a proper (re)release in about January, at the latest this spring. 

The big push for buying a Ryzen CPU is for people who don't already own a motherboard compatible with latest intel products, but you do.  I doubt the 9900k won't still be a good CPU in 3-4 years, its just the price to buy a Z390 board just to get a 9900k when the 9900k is the end of the line for that platform is what sways people away from it, buying a new motherboard that is a dead end sucks, but you already have the motherboard.  Keep in mind the whole reason everybody is excited about Ryzen 4000 is because they already likely own a b350/b450/x570 etc motherboard and there is a hope that it might catch up to the 9900k in gaming.  I really think your case is perfect example of somebody who could make a good, logical, decision to buy a 9900k. 

As long as you offload the 8600k ASAP, i see nothing wrong with upgrading to a 9900k right now. 

[Mister Woof]

Imo don't upgrade less than two or three generations or else you won't feel enough of a jump to tangibly perceive the value of your money spent.

 

So unless presently you are experiencing problems with your apps, don't. Which for an 8600k, which when OC is still mostly Superior to zen2, it shouldnt be for gaming.

 

This is also why I no longer recommend i5s and anything without hyperthreading/smt.

 

If you got the 8700k to begin with you'd be perfectly fine right now.

 

Learn from it, move on, apply knowledge to future purchases.

[Jrasero]

6 hours ago, Boyohan said:

I am just looking for some input as I am a bit conflicted if an upgrade is necessary or not.

 

I'm considering an upgrade of my CPU to a 9900K but not sure if it is worth it or if I should wait a year or so and get next gen Intel/AMD.

I get the feeling that pretty soon my 8600k won't be enough. 

The VRMs on my Z390-F should be good enough for a 9900K (with a small OC).

My GTX1080 is still decent so I plan to only upgrade my CPU and wait for next gen GPUs. 

My RAM will also be reused (maybe ill buy another 16gb of the same type)

I mostly use my PC for gaming at and I some light work from home (mostly answering emails etc).

 

I was also thinking about going AMD but that would be more expensive as I would need to buy a new mobo as well.

 

To upgrade or not to upgrade....   ?

 

 

 

The most I would upgrade to if I were you would be the 8700K which is still a hell of a gaming chip or just stay put.  If you really feel the itch to burn money maybe upgrade the GPU but if you can wait 6-8 months better GPUs should be on the horizon