windows 10 My computer can run everything but minecraft!!!

[Ripalodeon]

Alrighty. So about 2 days ago I logged onto minecraft and every time I turned / moved my perspective my game lagged out. Whenever I moved my mouse I would get major lag spikes. I made a cry for help on the minecraft fourms but it got me nowhere. Before 2 days ago, my game was silky smooth, almost no lag ever. I tried reapplying thermal paste like 2 times and I even put back on the stock cooler for my Ryzen 5 2600X. Nothing helped. I went onto Rainbow Six Siege and I was able to play the game on High Settings with 70-80 FPS. I then went onto Cuphead and got 60FPS, no drop at all. My PC isn't overheating (I believe) I think this is a software issue but i'm not sure at all. I even allocated 6GB of Ram to my minecraft game. Nothing is working, super confused. If you want to see my original forum post, here it is: https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/support/java-edition-support/2995540-minecraft-randomly-became-laggy 

 

Edit 1:

Windows 10 64bit

650W  80+Gold Power Supply

Ryzen 5 2600X

Corsair 16GB Ram

MSI RX580 Armor OC

Samsung SSD 250GB

Hard Drive 500GB

 

Edit 2:

I have the Optifine mod already installed

 

Edit 3:

Very odd, I went into spectator mode on my server. I clicked into my friend's characters and whenever I "watched" them play, it was silky smooth!!! Whenever I turn my character it lags the game, but when the character turns in spectator, it doesnt lag! Additionally, like right after I made this post, my game was running smoothly and then like 20 minutes later, the game continued to have the same problem. Super odd, very confused 

[MartinKweh]

try to turn on afterburner and riva and monitor the CPU/GPU usage. there might be something like a CPU problem due to chunk loading or items that are on the floor that doesn't despawn. Another possible reason would be a mod installed that actually strikes the CPU/GPU hard like the ray tracing mod. 

 

mine craft is the easiest and the hardest game to run depending on the mod installed.

[TheKDub]

Have you tried going to appdata/roaming and deleting .minecraft, then reinstalling?

 

Did you update Java by chance? If not, give that a try. If you did, try going back to an older version. (I'd suggest using Java 8 )

[Ripalodeon]

14 minutes ago, TheKDub said:

Have you tried going to appdata/roaming and deleting .minecraft, then reinstalling?

 

Did you update Java by chance? If not, give that a try. If you did, try going back to an older version. (I'd suggest using Java 8 )

I've already tried deleting the .minecraft folder. Didn't work. I re-copied it though because i didn't want to lose all of my stuff. Just installed the latest version of Java and restarted my PC, nothing changed with my minecraft situation. If possible, can you link where to download an older version of Java?

[Magnetar_Byte]

I'm guessing its an issue with a corrupted file when u downloaded it. That or try to play with the settings in video to see if its fixed by lowering render distance.

[Skiiwee29]

Sounds like something on the server side changed and the chunk render distance greatly increased and changed. Does this happen on single player mode?

[Ripalodeon]

3 minutes ago, Skiiwee29 said:

Sounds like something on the server side changed and the chunk render distance greatly increased and changed. Does this happen on single player mode?

Yeah, this is definitely a client-side thing

[Ripalodeon]

23 minutes ago, Magnetar_Byte said:

I'm guessing its an issue with a corrupted file when u downloaded it. That or try to play with the settings in video to see if its fixed by lowering render distance.

I've tried lowering my render distance and stuff, nothing helps

[Ripalodeon]

1 hour ago, Martin2132 said:

try to turn on afterburner and riva and monitor the CPU/GPU usage. there might be something like a CPU problem due to chunk loading or items that are on the floor that doesn't despawn. Another possible reason would be a mod installed that actually strikes the CPU/GPU hard like the ray tracing mod. 

 

mine craft is the easiest and the hardest game to run depending on the mod installed.

So I installed afterburner and riva. I don't know how to use them though... is there by any chance you could send a video tutorial or something?

[MartinKweh]

im not sure. try to find the setting button and find monitoring. in thre there will be an option on what to put in the OSD. there are tons of videos online pertaining on how to set it up

 

That is the first video in youtube.

[Ripalodeon]

13 minutes ago, Martin2132 said:

im not sure. try to find the setting button and find monitoring. in thre there will be an option on what to put in the OSD. there are tons of videos online pertaining on how to set it up

 

That is the first video in youtube.

Okay so I got it to work. My Graphics card & CPU are both at 58 degrees celcius. I dont think it has to do with overheating. my GPU memory clock is stuck at 2000 Mhz, never changing. Does this mean anything? Here's a picture of what it looks like (it's at the left of the screen)

[MartinKweh]

15 hours ago, Ripalodeon said:

Okay so I got it to work. My Graphics card & CPU are both at 58 degrees celcius. I dont think it has to do with overheating. my GPU memory clock is stuck at 2000 Mhz, never changing. Does this mean anything? Here's a picture of what it looks like (it's at the left of the screen)

so its not the CPU/GPU usage. hmm. does the ram usage go passed 16 gb? that could also be a cause.

[Skipple]

I would guess 100% software related then. Drivers updated? If so I would completely wipe the game using something like Revo and try again.

[MartinKweh]

15 hours ago, Ripalodeon said:

Okay so I got it to work. My Graphics card & CPU are both at 58 degrees celcius. I dont think it has to do with overheating. my GPU memory clock is stuck at 2000 Mhz, never changing. Does this mean anything? Here's a picture of what it looks like (it's at the left of the screen)

so its not the CPU/GPU usage. hmm. does the ram usage go passed 16 gb? that could also be a cause.

[Ripalodeon]

27 minutes ago, Martin2132 said:

so its not the CPU/GPU usage. hmm. does the ram usage go passed 16 gb? that could also be a cause.

I only have 16GB of ram in my PC

[MartinKweh]

15 hours ago, Ripalodeon said:

I only have 16GB of ram in my PC

ye i mean how much ram does the game use? if it nears 16gb , it might be the cause. try to close Chrome in the backgound if its open. it might be one of the cause

[Ripalodeon]

33 minutes ago, Martin2132 said:

ye i mean how much ram does the game use? if it nears 16gb , it might be the cause. try to close Chrome in the backgound if its open. it might be one of the cause

It uses, according to task manager around 3.2gb of ram, I allocated 6gb of ram for it though

[MartinKweh]

15 hours ago, Ripalodeon said:

It uses, according to task manager around 3.2gb of ram, I allocated 6gb of ram for it though

have you tried reinstalling the game or updating to the latest version of java?

[Ripalodeon]

1 minute ago, Martin2132 said:

have you tried reinstalling the game or updating to the latest version of java?

Yeah I installed the latst version of Java. I've tried deleting the .minecraft folder and it didn't help either.

[MartinKweh]

15 hours ago, Ripalodeon said:

Yeah I installed the latst version of Java. I've tried deleting the .minecraft folder and it didn't help either.

have you tried reducing the resolution of the game?

[Ripalodeon]

1 minute ago, Martin2132 said:

have you tried reducing the resolution of the game?

I mean I'd prefer not to reduce it's resolution, my PC is fully capable of running MC and has only started lagging very recently. I don't think reducing it's resolution will help solve it.

[MartinKweh]

try locking the FPS that might help with the stuttering. lock it at near the lowest playable frame rate you get.

[Mark Kaine]

5 hours ago, Ripalodeon said:

I mean I'd prefer not to reduce it's resolution, my PC is fully capable of running MC and has only started lagging very recently. I don't think reducing it's resolution will help solve it.

Was there any software update recently on this PC, minecraft,  drivers,  Windows,  anything? 

 

 

Because usually these things don't happen just like that they usually happen after updates,  unless hardware related. 

[Mark Kaine]

5 hours ago, Martin2132 said:

ye i mean how much ram does the game use? if it nears 16gb , it might be the cause. try to close Chrome in the backgound if its open. it might be one of the cause

Unfortunately windows is an unoptimized pos that doesn't care how much ram you have,  it'll simply use your disc and declare that as ram if it needs to be. 

 

Source: my PC regularly uses way above 16GB "RAM" and I only have 16 installed lol.

 

It also loves to put unused memory in standby for no reason whatsoever causing stutters in games because it randomly decides to use this "standby ram" which causes issues.  Windows really isn't optimized for gaming at all, it's all just workarounds,  overheads and "just throw more power at it" kinda solutions. 

 

 

[TheKDub]

23 hours ago, Ripalodeon said:

I've already tried deleting the .minecraft folder. Didn't work. I re-copied it though because i didn't want to lose all of my stuff. Just installed the latest version of Java and restarted my PC, nothing changed with my minecraft situation. If possible, can you link where to download an older version of Java?

https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-archive-javase8-2177648.html

 

Make sure you get Java SE Runtime Environment. The versions are ordered from newest (top) to oldest (bottom) on that page.