Samsung 970 evo vs Corsair mp510

[The Torrent]

I’m told mp510 is better and cheaper.

 

but I’ve just noticed mp510 is tlc, where’s 970 has mlc.

 

are Samsung falling behind on their flash technology that mp510 is reaching almost identical speeds and superior endurance from a tlc chip compared to a mlc?

 

please explain.

and which is best to go for (case specific I’m going for 500gigs)

[GoldenLag]

5 minutes ago, The Torrent said:

but I’ve just noticed mp510 is tlc, where’s 970 has mlc.

they are both TLC. MLC was just a way of saying TLC at some point. M standing for Multi. yeah dont ask me why. 

6 minutes ago, The Torrent said:

please explain.

and which is best to go for (case specific I’m going for 500gigs)

probabl neither. cant you grab a 1TB 660p for the same price. or a Sabrent rocket for less than the mp510?

[The Torrent]

27 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

they are both TLC. MLC was just a way of saying TLC at some point. M standing for Multi. yeah dont ask me why. 

probabl neither. cant you grab a 1TB 660p for the same price. or a Sabrent rocket for less than the mp510?

40tb endurance on the 660 for low budget builds great not for me tho.

[GoldenLag]

7 minutes ago, The Torrent said:

40tb endurance on the 660 for low budget builds great not for me tho.

A sabrent rocket then. 40TB endurance is a lot tho.

[TheNaitsyrk]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

A sabrent rocket then. 40TB endurance is a lot tho.

250GB Samsung 970 Evo Plus got (endurance) TBW:

150TBW for 250GB model.

300TBW for 500GB model.

600TBW for 1TB model.

1200TBW for 2TB model.

Samsung 860 Evo SSD 4TB 2400 TBW.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

250GB Samsung 970 Evo Plus got (endurance) TBW:

150TBW for 250GB model.

300TBW for 500GB model.

600TBW for 1TB model.

1200TBW for 2TB model.

Samsung 860 Evo SSD 4TB 2400 TBW.

For normal users 40TB is a lot. Not accounting for SLC caching that might improve it a bit.

[TheNaitsyrk]

55 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

For normal users 40TB is a lot. Not accounting for SLC caching that might improve it a bit.

Just catering to his needs. He said he doesn't want it.

[GoldenLag]

Just now, TheNaitsyrk said:

Just catering to his needs. He said he doesn't want it.

yeah, i know. 

 

and i provided another option. the Sabrent rocket. 

[TheNaitsyrk]

2 hours ago, The Torrent said:

I’m told mp510 is better and cheaper.

 

but I’ve just noticed mp510 is tlc, where’s 970 has mlc.

 

are Samsung falling behind on their flash technology that mp510 is reaching almost identical speeds and superior endurance from a tlc chip compared to a mlc?

 

please explain.

and which is best to go for (case specific I’m going for 500gigs)

Which one would you prefer then?

I have Samsung Evo Plus 1TB 2x and 1x 4TB 860 EVO SSD and 2x 500GB Samsung 860 Evos also and they have never let me down. Speeds are amazing, and really can't complain.

 

MP510 is not too bad as long as you get higher capacity imo.

 

p660 from Intel is something my friend has and speeds aren't as amazing, but it gets the job done. Although, endurance is poor if you write to it a lot.

[The Torrent]

3 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

yeah, i know. 

 

and i provided another option. the Sabrent rocket. 

Will look into sabrent rocket, haven’t heard of it before. How does endurance and speed compare to mp510?

 

5 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

they are both TLC. MLC was just a way of saying TLC at some point. M standing for Multi. yeah dont ask me why. 

probabl neither. cant you grab a 1TB 660p for the same price. or a Sabrent rocket for less than the mp510?

Will look into rocket.

 

according to google mlc means 2 and tlc not the same.

[GoldenLag]

13 minutes ago, The Torrent said:

Will look into sabrent rocket, haven’t heard of it before. How does endurance and speed compare to mp510?

Its the exact same drive iirc

 

14 minutes ago, The Torrent said:

according to google mlc means 2 and tlc not the same.

Nvm then. Its as confusing as ever. 

[The Torrent]

So back to my original question, how is Corsair beating Samsung with tlc drives in endurance?

[hello_there_123]

7 hours ago, The Torrent said:

but I’ve just noticed mp510 is tlc, where’s 970 has mlc.

only the 970 pro is true MLC. the 970 EVO is TLC but Samsung calls it "3-bit MLC" to confuse customers. 

[hello_there_123]

1 hour ago, GoldenLag said:

Its the exact same drive iirc

Yes, the Corsair MP510, Inland Premium, Mushkin Pilot, and Sabrent Rocket are all identical drives. With Phison E12 controller and (iirc) Toshiba 64L nand.

[The Torrent]

16 minutes ago, hello_there_123 said:

Yes, the Corsair MP510, Inland Premium, Mushkin Pilot, and Sabrent Rocket are all identical drives. With Phison E12 controller and (iirc) Toshiba 64L nand.

Which one is the cheapest out of that list if they all exact same drives?

[hello_there_123]

1 minute ago, The Torrent said:

Which one is the cheapest out of that list if they all exact same drives?

Which country are you located in?

[The Torrent]

4 minutes ago, hello_there_123 said:

Which country are you located in?

Uk

[hello_there_123]

9 minutes ago, The Torrent said:

Uk

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/nqc48d/sabrent-512-gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-sb-rocket-512

[The Torrent]

4 hours ago, hello_there_123 said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/nqc48d/sabrent-512-gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-sb-rocket-512

what about for 1tb?

 

if your just searching each one ill save you the time and ill have a look but if you just know let me know.

[hello_there_123]

3 minutes ago, The Torrent said:

what about for 1tb?

 

if your just searching each one ill save you the time and ill have a look but if you just know let me know.

i'm just searching for each one 

[The Torrent]

cant get any of the others for sale

 

 

I will be going with sabrient rocket as its the same drive as m510.

Just to confirm, as im just a little concerned, there is no difference at all between 510 and sabrient rocket? damn if people found out nobody would buy 510.

4 minutes ago, hello_there_123 said:

i'm just searching for each one 

 

[TomvanWijnen]

I have the 960 GB MP510 and love it. It was almost half the price of the Samsung equivalent. According to an in depth review from I believe hardware.info (Dutch site), it is equal, better, and worse in some tests, but overall similar or maybe even slightly better than the Samsung 970 Evo Plus. I didn't buy the Sabrent Rocket because it didn't exist/was too new when I bought this drive, and it isn't available here now either. I don't think that the 1 TB Sabrent Rocket and the 960 GB MP510 are identical, as, um, lol look at the sizes, 1 TB =/= 960 GB.  And this drive really is 960 GB. EDIT: I'm not saying or implying that the Sabrent Rocket is bad - I know nothing about it, apart from what I just said.

[The Torrent]

1 minute ago, TomvanWijnen said:

I have the 960 GB MP510 and love it. It was almost half the price of the Samsung equivalent. According to an in depth review from I believe hardware.info (Dutch site), it is equal, better, and worse in some tests, but overall similar or maybe even slightly better than the Samsung 970 Evo Plus. I didn't buy the Sabrent Rocket because it didn't exist/was too new when I bought this drive, and it isn't available here now either. I don't think that the 1 TB Sabrent Rocket and the 960 GB MP510 are identical, as, um, lol look at the sizes, 1 TB =/= 960 GB.  And this drive really is 960 GB.

good point.

 

@hello_there_123can u explain please?

 

im guessing its just down to formatting or something.

[hello_there_123]

10 minutes ago, The Torrent said:

Just to confirm, as im just a little concerned, there is no difference at all between 510 and sabrient rocket? damn if people found out nobody would buy 510.

I think the firmware might be different, but the hardware itself should be the same.

[The Torrent]

16 minutes ago, hello_there_123 said:

I think the firmware might be different, but the hardware itself should be the same.

And firmware adds 40 gig on? Or is the rocket actually 960 gig?