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8600k or 8700k?

So I'm planning to get a new PC with a ROG STRIX GTX 1080 and I have a dilemma between 2 CPUs, an i5-8600k or an i7-8700k. They're $100 apart and pretty different. I'm kinda new in this stuff so I appreciate your help here. Also I'm going to (try) and overclock. Data sheet: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=126685,126684

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May I ask why are you getting 8th gen Intel CPU instead of Ryzen 3000 series CPU?

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https://www.gpucheck.com/gpu/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080/intel-core-i5-8600k-3-60ghz/

 

This is the expected performance of the 1080 with the i5.

i guess you can try to look for performance benchmarks with the i7 (i havent found any) and compare them but i personally don't think there will be a huge differance aside from CPU intensive taks

 

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I have an i5-8600K and an RTX 2070. If you're building Intel, which is not a horrible idea (though AMD does offer more cores if you really do need them.), you should probably get a hyperthreaded CPU. My 6c/6t CPU is already feeling a little aged.

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Id say it depends on what you play. I couldn't imagine using anything less than a 8700k right now. My 1080 kicks its ass right now with the bad games lately. 

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It really depends on what games you play, do you want to stream, and what monitor you have (60/144/240hz)? For most just gaming use cases, an i5-8600k would be plenty. If you want to stream, then the i7-8700k is the way to go without a second thought. If you are playing any CPU intensive games at 240hz, then I would recommend the 8700k. An i5 is still a solid choice for gamers who just want to game.

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28 minutes ago, mangdani282 said:

So I'm planning to get a new PC with a ROG STRIX GTX 1080 and I have a dilemma between 2 CPUs, an i5-8600k or an i7-8700k. They're $100 apart and pretty different. I'm kinda new in this stuff so I appreciate your help here. Also I'm going to (try) and overclock. Data sheet: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=126685,126684

Ryzen 5 3600 or Ryzen 7 3700X

Ryzen is better price to performance, unless you have a specific reason for choosing intel, I would go with team red

idk tbh

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3 minutes ago, vizzaral said:

It really depends on what games you play, do you want to stream, and what monitor you have (60/144/240hz)? For most just gaming use cases, an i5-8600k would be plenty. If you want to stream, then the i7-8700k is the way to go without a second thought. If you are playing any CPU intensive games at 240hz, then I would recommend the 8700k. An i5 is still a solid choice for gamers who just want to game.

If he was streaming or doing anything else than gaming, he should just go with Ryzen Zen 2, its cheaper and the difference between Intel and AMD while gaming is barley noticeable.

If he was just gaming and going for a high refresh rate, it seems reasonable to go for intel, but for the mean time, he should just go Ryzen

idk tbh

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4 minutes ago, Greenish said:

If he was streaming or doing anything else than gaming, he should just go with Ryzen Zen 2, its cheaper and the difference between Intel and AMD while gaming is barley noticeable.

If he was just gaming and going for a high refresh rate, it seems reasonable to go for intel, but for the mean time, he should just go Ryzen

I 100% agree. I'm just going by the assumption that those are his only 2 options, as that's what he has listed, and others have already mentioned that Ryzen is the way to go.

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4 minutes ago, vizzaral said:

I 100% agree. I'm just going by the assumption that those are his only 2 options, as that's what he has listed, and others have already mentioned that Ryzen is the way to go.

In what scenario would those be his only options

idk tbh

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6 minutes ago, Greenish said:

In what scenario would those be his only options

2nd hand market? His local shops availability? A game he plays may hate AMD *coughs Destiny*. May be an Intel fanboy. ?‍♂️

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Just now, vizzaral said:

2nd hand market? His local shops availability? A game he plays may hate AMD *coughs Destiny*. May be an Intel fanboy. ?‍♂️

I get the second hand market, but to be totally fair he is probably just better off buying a new AMD CPU. On the subject of Intel fanboy's cough cough xQc

idk tbh

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Imo, either spring for the 8700K or go with the one of the new Zen 2 options like the Ryzen 5 3600. 6 core 6 threaded processors are already beginning to become increasingly outdated in terms of frametimes in newer AAA games and imo won't last much longer especially considering the upcoming next gen consoles. The minimum anyone should be considering nowadays is 6c/12t, as that's what the latest entry level and mainstream processors are launching with nowadays. An i5 8600K may be faster in select cases but you're also more than likely going to be maxing the thing out just running the game, the 12 threaded processor will have the headroom available for not only upcoming AAA games, but for background tasks as well. Try running Battlefield 5 64 player on a 6 threaded processor and then try launching a YouTube video or stream in the background and you're going to notice it starting to struggle. 

 

Furthermore, with all of the latest security flaws that have been unveiled, to me, it just doesn't make sense to go with any of Intel's current mid range offerings ( i5s ). The i7s and the i9s I can somewhat understand, but for mid range and entry level I see no other choice than team red in this scenario. Not to mention the fact that the Ryzen 5 3600 is comparable in terms of overall computing performance to an 8700K, even an overclocked one. 

 

So yeah, to sum up, go with the 8700K, or get a Ryzen 5 3600-3700X. 6 threaded i5s no longer make any sense in the current market, even if you're only "Just Gaming". The same thing that happened to the quad core i5s will happen to the 6 core i5s, it's been demonstrated time and time again that processors that lack hyperthreading just don't hold up in the long run, hence my recommendation of the Ryzen 5 3600, or 8700K if you're intent on going Intel.  

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