Ryzen 5 3600 with a radeon rx 5700 xt. bottleneck?

[ZBVirus24]

I posted a completely different post about my PSU.

And someone looked at my parts list and said that the 5700 xt will get bottlenecked by my r5 3600.

But then someone came swoopin from the side and RKOed the f out of that guy with a "STOP WITH THIS MISKNOWLEDGE PLZ! THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH A R5 3600 AND 5700 XT! THE AMOUNT OF TIMES I SAW YOU RUMBLE THESE LIES IS WAYYY TOO MANY!!!"

 

So I would like to know your opinion on this...

Any help will be GREATLY appreciated!

[Skiiwee29]

wow... whoever told you that the 5700xt would be bottlenecked by the r5 3600 has no clue what the heck they're talking about. ZERO bottlenecks in that pairing. 

[LukeSavenije]

the only problem is microstuttering, but that's just because games have to be optimised for it

[Epimetheus]

they're a perfect pair, that guy's doing that in everyone's posts. Probably a massive intel fanboy

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 minutes ago, Skiiwee29 said:

wow... whoever told you that the 5700xt would be bottlenecked by the r5 3600 has no clue what the heck they're talking about. ZERO bottlenecks in that pairing. 

Spoiler alert: it's turtle rig...

[Skiiwee29]

1 minute ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

Spoiler alert: it's turtle rig...

.........

[Princess Luna]

@Skiiwee29@Herman Mcpootis@Epimetheus@LukeSavenije

 

As much as that's indeed considered a perfectly balanced pairing and Turtle's scaring OP without much merit to it, it is still valid to specify that yes the R5 3600 can bottleneck the 5700XT.

 

It depends a lot on game and settings yes, but the R5 3600 can become a limiting factor when trying to extract all that the 5700XT has to offer representating a bottleneck, the only catch is that even then the performance is fine and nobody should be losing their sleep over it.

 

Reference:

This extended look through by Hardware Unboxed shows that time to time the 3900X and 9900K will provide higher performance as they better extract all the 2070S and vanilla 5700 full potential.

 

This is just a matter of "being literal"

Spoiler

[Epimetheus]

1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

@Skiiwee29@Herman Mcpootis@Epimetheus@LukeSavenije

 

As much as that's indeed considered a perfectly balanced pairing and Turtle's scaring OP without much merit to it, it is still valid to specify that yes the R5 3600 can bottleneck the 5700XT.

 

It depends a lot on game and settings yes, but the R5 3600 can become a limiting factor when trying to extract all that the 5700XT has to offer representation a bottleneck, the only catch is that even then the performance is fine and nobody should be losing their sleep over it.

 

Reference:

This extended look through by Hardware Unboxed shows that time to time the 3900X and 9900K will provide higher performance as they better extract all the 2070S and vanilla 5700 full potential.

  

This is just a matter of "being literal"

 

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Yeah that's more like it lol, he's making it look like the r5 3600 is a trash cpu while it's simply not the flagship

[sgloux3470]

30 minutes ago, ZBVirus24 said:

I posted a completely different post about my PSU.

And someone looked at my parts list and said that the 5700 xt will get bottlenecked by my r5 3600.

But then someone came swoopin from the side and RKOed the f out of that guy with a "STOP WITH THIS MISKNOWLEDGE PLZ! THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH A R5 3600 AND 5700 XT! THE AMOUNT OF TIMES I SAW YOU RUMBLE THESE LIES IS WAYYY TOO MANY!!!"

 

So I would like to know your opinion on this...

Any help will be GREATLY appreciated!

Best advice is to just ignore anyone who uses the word bottleneck.

 

 

[Turtle Rig]

41 minutes ago, ZBVirus24 said:

I posted a completely different post about my PSU.

And someone looked at my parts list and said that the 5700 xt will get bottlenecked by my r5 3600.

But then someone came swoopin from the side and RKOed the f out of that guy with a "STOP WITH THIS MISKNOWLEDGE PLZ! THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH A R5 3600 AND 5700 XT! THE AMOUNT OF TIMES I SAW YOU RUMBLE THESE LIES IS WAYYY TOO MANY!!!"

 

So I would like to know your opinion on this...

Any help will be GREATLY appreciated!

Yes there will be a bottleneck. Also you will not get the full frame rates the 5700XT can dish out.

[Quadriplegic]

28 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

@Skiiwee29@Herman Mcpootis@Epimetheus@LukeSavenije

 

As much as that's indeed considered a perfectly balanced pairing and Turtle's scaring OP without much merit to it, it is still valid to specify that yes the R5 3600 can bottleneck the 5700XT.

 

I'd disagree. Keep in mind that in usual bottleneck scenarios, going with higher end graphics card would not yield any performance gain. Which isn't the case, due to 2080 Ti giving  better performance even with 3600. So I'd say it is not hardware related bottleneck. Keep in mind that these results are average FPS, which can be greatly affected by frame times and usually depend on CPU just as much, if not more than GPU. Both 3900x and 9900k have better 1% lows, therefore better average FPS.

Also, this:

Are you saying 3600 bottlenecks RX 580 too?

[flibberdipper]

56 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

Spoiler alert: it's turtle rig...

Spoiler alert: I'm the one telling him to stop leading people in the wrong direction. Granted I didn't do it in the Reddit-retard way that OP lays it out but...

[GoldenLag]

20 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Yes there will be a bottleneck. Also you will not get the full frame rates the 5700XT can dish out.

In what games and titles?

Do you have sources?

Because if you point to 900p half life 2 and CS;GO then sssh. No CPU can provide the ammount of frames it can dish out. 

 

Because bottlenecking is 95% just bull. 

 

The r5 2600 is a fine CPU to pair up to say a 2080 super just to min-max a bit. 

 

The 3600 is no different. 

 

Edit: ive told you before, twice now. If you dont know, then dont assume you do

 

 

 

@ZBVirus24 no worries, there are no problems. 

[themctipers]

0 issues. I run a 3600 (PBO disabled) with a VII and it's fine for all of my games. even my 3770k was somewhat alright if you maxed out the game graphics and resolution and didn't touch CPU post processing , and the 3770k is about a 2200g/2400g

[xg32]

3 hours ago, ZBVirus24 said:

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i'd call it a minor bottleneck that only shows up rarely, the difference in opinion you are seeing comes from the individual definition of a bottleneck. Fun Fact, most reviewers found that the 9900k bottlenecked the 2080 ti on release (very specific circumstances),  but barely mentioned it in the reviews because it'd...trigger people. Months ago I was saying some games can cap out a 9900k, but it actually offended some 9600k/9700k owners...so it's a tricky topic.

 

Again, the worst a 3600 will do is a minor bottleneck, the 3600 is my definite go-to for this gen on a budget, so you made the right choice. (the others are 9900k for pure gaming and 3950x for work)

 

Since @Princess Luna brought up the youtube video, the charts starts at 3 minutes, you can clearly see that there's a minor bottleneck for the rx 5700 on the 3600, so saying that there's no bottleneck at all is technically wrong, but the bottleneck barely matters so it's just nitpicking  Kinda amusing how so many people watched the vid when it just went up today lol, good content really. Perfect time to ask the question @ZBVirus24.

 

It's best to pick a resolution/refresh rate then pick a cpu/gpu combo that does the job

 

 

 

[CPUguy101]

3 hours ago, ZBVirus24 said:

I posted a completely different post about my PSU.

And someone looked at my parts list and said that the 5700 xt will get bottlenecked by my r5 3600.

But then someone came swoopin from the side and RKOed the f out of that guy with a "STOP WITH THIS MISKNOWLEDGE PLZ! THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH A R5 3600 AND 5700 XT! THE AMOUNT OF TIMES I SAW YOU RUMBLE THESE LIES IS WAYYY TOO MANY!!!"

 

So I would like to know your opinion on this...

Any help will be GREATLY appreciated!

No way that is bottlenecking your gaming experience. Only CPU that is better for gaming really is the 9900K and really its not worth it for even a 2080Ti in most cases you are still going to get 100+ FPS in all games.  

[ZBVirus24]

On 8/10/2019 at 8:23 PM, Skiiwee29 said:

wow... whoever told you that the 5700xt would be bottlenecked by the r5 3600 has no clue what the heck they're talking about. ZERO bottlenecks in that pairing. 

Yeah That's what I thought... THX!

[ZBVirus24]

On 8/10/2019 at 8:27 PM, Herman Mcpootis said:

Spoiler alert: it's turtle rig...

You are a genius 

[ZBVirus24]

On 8/10/2019 at 8:57 PM, sgloux3470 said:

Best advice is to just ignore anyone who uses the word bottleneck.

 

 

Good advice bro.. I'll remember that.

[ZBVirus24]

On 8/10/2019 at 9:06 PM, Turtle Rig said:

Yes there will be a bottleneck. Also you will not get the full frame rates the 5700XT can dish out.

Oh turtle rig is here I wanna see the comments to this...

[ZBVirus24]

On 8/10/2019 at 9:26 PM, GoldenLag said:

In what games and titles?

Do you have sources?

Because if you point to 900p half life 2 and CS;GO then sssh. No CPU can provide the ammount of frames it can dish out. 

 

Because bottlenecking is 95% just bull. 

 

The r5 2600 is a fine CPU to pair up to say a 2080 super just to min-max a bit. 

 

The 3600 is no different. 

 

Edit: ive told you before, twice now. If you dont know, then dont assume you do

 

 

 

@ZBVirus24 no worries, there are no problems. 

Oh snap!

 

thx btw

[ZBVirus24]

On 8/10/2019 at 11:31 PM, xg32 said:

i'd call it a minor bottleneck that only shows up rarely, the difference in opinion you are seeing comes from the individual definition of a bottleneck. Fun Fact, most reviewers found that the 9900k bottlenecked the 2080 ti on release (very specific circumstances),  but barely mentioned it in the reviews because it'd...trigger people. Months ago I was saying some games can cap out a 9900k, but it actually offended some 9600k/9700k owners...so it's a tricky topic.

 

Again, the worst a 3600 will do is a minor bottleneck, the 3600 is my definite go-to for this gen on a budget, so you made the right choice. (the others are 9900k for pure gaming and 3950x for work)

 

Since @Princess Luna brought up the youtube video, the charts starts at 3 minutes, you can clearly see that there's a minor bottleneck for the rx 5700 on the 3600, so saying that there's no bottleneck at all is technically wrong, but the bottleneck barely matters so it's just nitpicking  Kinda amusing how so many people watched the vid when it just went up today lol, good content really. Perfect time to ask the question @ZBVirus24.

 

It's best to pick a resolution/refresh rate then pick a cpu/gpu combo that does the job

 

 

 

Currently running a 1080p 76hz monitor.

But am heavily looking to upgrade to a 144Hz 1440p monitor in like half a year or so and don't want to have to spend an additional 400$ for a new GPU.

Do you think that the rx 5700 can handle the 1440p 144hz??

[xg32]

4 hours ago, ZBVirus24 said:

Currently running a 1080p 76hz monitor.

But am heavily looking to upgrade to a 144Hz 1440p monitor in like half a year or so and don't want to have to spend an additional 400$ for a new GPU.

Do you think that the rx 5700 can handle the 1440p 144hz??

an xt overclocked on medium-high? sure, it'd prolly be a cpu/gpu thing if there was issues, again, it depends on the game, more likely than not ubisoft titles will be around 100fps for example

[ZBVirus24]

7 hours ago, xg32 said:

an xt overclocked on medium-high? sure, it'd prolly be a cpu/gpu thing if there was issues, again, it depends on the game, more likely than not ubisoft titles will be around 100fps for example

K, THX!