Thoughts on Nvidia SUPER cards?

[MayCris]

Hello, so i recently heard about the new cards that came out about a day ago, and I am a little angry, thinking that two months ago i bought an RTX card and now they came out with better graphic cards for a better value to price ratio, basically leaving the previous RTX card "obsolete" and they are discontinuing them. Its great that they came out with these new cards but still, i feel like they are just spitting us on the freaking face. Thoughts?

[pizapower]

You should have bought a cheap Vega 56.

[Princess Luna]

Everyone is tired of knowing nVidia will always screw early adopters, the original RTX line up was Pascal copy paste with DXR added, all the cards performed pretty much the same at the same price point as in 1070 Ti = 2060 / 1080 = 2070 / 1080 Ti = 2080.

 

There was no performance gains aside new NVENC processing core and what not, the line up was weak since AMD had nothing to compete, Vega 64 and Vega 56 were just okay cards that would be worth if found under the 2070 and 2060 pricing respectively when gaming was a priority.

 

Radeon 7 is still behind the vanilla RTX 2080 in gaming for the most part, like every one says it's actually a card to compete with the 1080 Ti performing roughly the same but that came a few years too late.

 

Now AMD finally made a bit of competition with the RX 5700 XT - RX 5700 and by result nVidia has finally made the 2000 series what it should have been from start, after having profit good money while getting their production sort out.

 

Bottom line is as said: never be an early adopted of nVidia, TITAN X Pascal? Here's a 1080 Ti that's the same for half the price - GTX 1080? Here's a GTX 1070 Ti that performs the same for a really good discount, and so on.

[Ankerson]

8 minutes ago, MayCris said:

Hello, so i recently heard about the new cards that came out about a day ago, and I am a little angry, thinking that two months ago i bought an RTX card and now they came out with better graphic cards for a better value to price ratio, basically leaving the previous RTX card "obsolete" and they are discontinuing them. Its great that they came out with these new cards but still, i feel like they are just spitting us on the freaking face. Thoughts?

 

Depends on what you bought.

 

The 2080 Super isn't out yet....

 

An no matter what you bought it's not obsolete now, it still does today what it did yesterday.

[MayCris]

7 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Everyone is tired of knowing nVidia will always screw early adopters, the original RTX line up was Pascal copy paste with DXR added, all the cards performed pretty much the same at the same price point as in 1070 Ti = 2060 / 1080 = 2070 / 1080 Ti = 2080.

 

There was no performance gains aside new NVENC processing core and what not, the line up was weak since AMD had nothing to compete, Vega 64 and Vega 56 were just okay cards that would be worth if found under the 2070 and 2060 pricing respectively when gaming was a priority.

 

Radeon 7 is still behind the vanilla RTX 2080 in gaming for the most part, like every one says it's actually a card to compete with the 1080 Ti performing roughly the same but that came a few years too late.

 

Now AMD finally made a bit of competition with the RX 5700 XT - RX 5700 and by result nVidia has finally made the 2000 series what it should have been from start, after having profit good money while getting their production sort out.

 

Bottom line is as said: never be an early adopted of nVidia, TITAN X Pascal? Here's a 1080 Ti that's the same for half the price - GTX 1080? Here's a GTX 1070 Ti that performs the same for a really good discount, and so on.

Yeah i get you. Im just dissapointed and a little mad. Ive always had nvidia cards but it was never like a choice, until now that i made my first build with my own money. And I am happy with the crad that i boiught but this is just wrong man...

[xg32]

if u bought a 2060, it's a mild loss, happens with pc builds all the time. if you bought a 2070, rip.

i make at least 1 mistake with every build.

[driftz240]

41 minutes ago, MayCris said:

Hello, so i recently heard about the new cards that came out about a day ago, and I am a little angry, thinking that two months ago i bought an RTX card and now they came out with better graphic cards for a better value to price ratio, basically leaving the previous RTX card "obsolete" and they are discontinuing them. Its great that they came out with these new cards but still, i feel like they are just spitting us on the freaking face. Thoughts?

Happens all the time in the tech industry.... but hell even if you got an og non super 2060,70,80 its still a killer at gaming.

[goto10]

is super... lame

 

is just sad, nvidia just decided to make fun of early adopters

 

60fps rtx on in 3games, 3 games, nothing more

 

this is below mediocre

 

is like physx but 100 times worse

[goto10]

they made fun of early adopters by messing prices and then replacing the entire line with new hardware, so those gpus lost all their price basically with that

 

that is the joke, well, is nvidia style, super style

[Anomnomnomaly]

2070 super is basically a 2080 for a lot less and a couple % slower...  So yeah... if you bought any RTX card... you'd have to be a gullible fanboi to not feel a little cheated right now.

 

But when you jump on the bandwagon to have the latest and allegedly greatest hardware... you pay the price for it... RTX was for bragging rights only, 3 games that have it 9 months later, and only another 3 in the works, some of which aren't out for another 10 months... and that's if they don't get delayed... and then outdated and obsolete after only 9 months.

 

Those of us that refuse to buy into the bullshit hype train of tech hardware... are probably chuckling right now.

[goto10]

7 minutes ago, Anomnomnomaly said:

2070 super is basically a 2080 for a lot less and a couple % slower...  So yeah... if you bought any RTX card... you'd have to be a gullible fanboi to not feel a little cheated right now.

 

But when you jump on the bandwagon to have the latest and allegedly greatest hardware... you pay the price for it... RTX was for bragging rights only, 3 games that have it 9 months later, and only another 3 in the works, some of which aren't out for another 10 months... and that's if they don't get delayed... and then outdated and obsolete after only 9 months.

 

Those of us that refuse to buy into the bullshit hype train of tech hardware... are probably chuckling right now.

they played their rtx cards well, we all bought their offering, only amd didnt fell for it, they will try to integrate ray tracing in a hybrid way, half on cores and half via drivers or pushing cpu somehow, rtx is basically dead, the price change reflects it clearly, was a massive failure, but amd might come to the rescue, next year, with the ps5

[jones177]

For years Nvidia came out with new cards every year and I bought them.

 

In 2010 a 470

in 2011 a 570

in 2012 a 670

in 2013  I did not like the 780 because of the 3gb vram so I got a 680 4gb instead.

in 2014 a 970/980

in 2015 a 980 ti  (New trend)

in 2016 a 1080

in 2017 a 1080 ti (Like the 900 series)

 

I see this as a new trend as well. Get the ti version out early and update as necessary.

It will be interesting to see what comes next year since AMD has already played their cards.

 

Old folks like me know that there was a time that if you didn't upgrade every 6 months you were left way behind. 

 

[Anomnomnomaly]

1 hour ago, jones177 said:

I see this as a new trend as well. Get the ti version out early and update as necessary.

It will be interesting to see what comes next year since AMD has already played their cards.

 

Old folks like me know that there was a time that if you didn't upgrade every 6 months you were left way behind. 

 

 

I dunno about AMD playing their entire hand yet... they've only officially announced the 5700 & 5700XT variants and we only kinda expect the 5800 & 5900 series of cards because of filings made by brand partners registering those names.

 

So if the 5700XT is on par with the old 2070, perhaps still faster than the new 2060 Super.. Then I'd hope to see a price drop pretty quickly... and if the 'alleged' 5800 series follows with 2 variants that should be comparable with 2070 Super and old 2080... and continuing with the assumption regarding 5800/5900 being actual products... the 5900 could very well be a bit of a beast... But the last time they really pushed the x9x series (ignore the RX590 as that was just a slightly tweaked 580) was the 290X which was a dual gpu card.

[goto10]

amd hasnt showed high end navi, only the two ones in the middle, those are the ones that sell the most, just look at rx580, that is the gpu which gives lots of money to amd, not vega 64, or even rx560, they will do all with those two, wait and see

[Mister Woof]

I'd wait for the Turbo edition, tbh. Hyper Fighting is a ways off, so not worth waiting for that one.

But Turbo for sure.

[AkatsukiKun]

9 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

Everyone is tired of knowing nVidia will always screw early adopters, the original RTX line up was Pascal copy paste with DXR added, all the cards performed pretty much the same at the same price point as in 1070 Ti = 2060 / 1080 = 2070 / 1080 Ti = 2080.

 

There was no performance gains aside new NVENC processing core and what not, the line up was weak since AMD had nothing to compete, Vega 64 and Vega 56 were just okay cards that would be worth if found under the 2070 and 2060 pricing respectively when gaming was a priority.

 

Radeon 7 is still behind the vanilla RTX 2080 in gaming for the most part, like every one says it's actually a card to compete with the 1080 Ti performing roughly the same but that came a few years too late.

 

Now AMD finally made a bit of competition with the RX 5700 XT - RX 5700 and by result nVidia has finally made the 2000 series what it should have been from start, after having profit good money while getting their production sort out.

 

Bottom line is as said: never be an early adopted of nVidia, TITAN X Pascal? Here's a 1080 Ti that's the same for half the price - GTX 1080? Here's a GTX 1070 Ti that performs the same for a really good discount, and so on.

Literally everything I think in a nutshell. Well I'm glad I bought a second hand 980Ti for about $410 CAD so about $300USD, when 1070s were priced at $500 on average on the used market during last years mining in the summer. Though I'm against telling people they're fools/idiots, you as a consumer have the power to vote or support companies with your money. But yeah if you bought an RTX card lately, you got Jebaited. What AMD needs now is to take the stick out of their ass and either release a proper cooler for their reference cards, or have partner cards come out right out of the gate cause waiting x amount of time isn't helping anyone but the competition.