(USD)$2000 Budget for Gaming Laptop or PC? (Engineering, CAD, Video Editing, Server, and Gaming Workloads)

[jman116]

What sort of system could I build for $2000 right now? I have an RX480 8gig that I can use while waiting for the RTX series to deflate in price, or waiting for Navi. I'd like a threadripper build or something insane since I'll be using this for 4k60fps video editing(Vegas 15), CAD work(Fusion360, Autodesk Inventor, Revit), modded minecraft and it's servers, and other games.

I have a 4k 60fps freesync panel.

[Radium_Angel]

9 minutes ago, jman116 said:

What sort of system could I build for $2000 right now? I have an RX480 8gig that I can use while waiting for the RTX series to deflate in price, or waiting for Navi. I'd like a threadripper build or something insane since I'll be using this for 4k60fps video editing(Vegas 15), CAD work(Fusion360, Autodesk Inventor, Revit), modded minecraft and it's servers, and other games.

I have a 4k 60fps freesync panel.

Have best of both worlds!

https://www.bsicomputer.com/products/portable-lunchbox-computer-1430

 

[LukeSavenije]

did someone say badass workstation?

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor	$519.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler	be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro TR4 59.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$109.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard	$249.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$144.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Corsair - MP300 960 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$124.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	XFX - Radeon VII 16 GB Video Card	$679.99 @ Amazon
Case	Cooler Master - MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case	$89.99 @ B&H
Power Supply	Corsair - HX Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2059.82
	Mail-in rebates	-$40.00
	Total	$2019.82
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-10 14:36 EDT-0400

 

[Firewrath9]

Cad in generally is good with single core speeds,

and quadros as well.

4 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

did someone say badass workstation?

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor	$519.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler	be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro TR4 59.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$109.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard	$249.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$144.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Corsair - MP300 960 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$124.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	XFX - Radeon VII 16 GB Video Card	$679.99 @ Amazon
Case	Cooler Master - MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case	$89.99 @ B&H
Power Supply	Corsair - HX Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2059.82
	Mail-in rebates	-$40.00
	Total	$2019.82
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-10 14:36 EDT-0400

 

keep in mind some programs require CUDA for GPU accel

also why dual channel ram?

Ryzen is ram bandwidth as it is.

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Firewrath9 said:

Cad in generally is good with single core speeds,

and quadros as well.

ah... will do one too

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$494.79 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$89.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$169.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$144.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Corsair - MP300 960 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$124.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	PNY - Quadro RTX 4000 8 GB Video Card	$884.00 @ Amazon
Case	Cooler Master - MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case	$89.99 @ B&H
Power Supply	Corsair - HX Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2118.69
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$2098.69
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-10 14:46 EDT-0400

 

4 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

keep in mind some programs require CUDA for GPU accel

don't most utilize opengl too?

 

5 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

also why dual channel ram?

because i didn't think about threadripper being quad channel for a second...

[Firewrath9]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

Don't most utilize opengl too?

 

because i didn't think about threadripper being quad channel for a second...

Quote

Unfortunately for AMD, there exist a bunch of renderers on the market that are tuned exclusively for NVIDIA's CUDA API, completely ruling out AMD's chance at having some fun. It could be that in time, these renderers will cave to growing Radeon Pro marketshare and broaden support to OpenCL, but it's going to be a real uphill battle for AMD. 

quote from steve from GN

[LukeSavenije]

8 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

quote from steve from GN

interesting... vii would be pretty badass tho if opengl becomes wider used

[jman116]

36 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

did someone say badass workstation?

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor	$519.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler	be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro TR4 59.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$109.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard	$249.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$144.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Corsair - MP300 960 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$124.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	XFX - Radeon VII 16 GB Video Card	$679.99 @ Amazon
Case	Cooler Master - MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case	$89.99 @ B&H
Power Supply	Corsair - HX Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2059.82
	Mail-in rebates	-$40.00
	Total	$2019.82
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-10 14:36 EDT-0400

 

I like this one over the 9900k for the higher amount of cores, however I've heard some uneasy things about the Radeon VII's performance..? I know the 16 gigs of HBM is good for future proofing and stuff like Machine Learning, (despite tensorflow being dominant.).

Edited May 10, 2019 by jman116
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[trevb0t]

6 minutes ago, jman116 said:

I like this one over the 9900k for the higher amount of cores, however I've heard some uneasy things about the Radeon VII's performance..?

Where? Aside from higher power draw and maybe a little hotter, it's got significantly more VRAM than the 2080 for productivity.

Just use good airflow and a good PSU. (Both shown in the build are great options.)

 

If you do want to game on this, the 9900k will beat out the Threadripper no contest. 

There is plenty of workstation merit to the 9900k as well. Either build would do well.

[jman116]

4 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

Where? Aside from higher power draw and maybe a little hotter, it's got significantly more VRAM than the 2080 for productivity.

Just use good airflow and a good PSU. (Both shown in the build are great options.)

Alright. Should I wait for Navi to see if it's any good, since I have a spare RX480 to use?

[trevb0t]

Just now, jman116 said:

Alright. Should I wait for Navi to see if it's any good, since I have a spare RX480 to use?

I would!

 

There are further notes edited into the quoted post in case you missed them. (I edit too much.)

[LukeSavenije]

12 minutes ago, jman116 said:

I like this one over the 9900k for the higher amount of cores, however I've heard some uneasy things about the Radeon VII's performance..? I know the 16 gigs of HBM is good for future proofing and stuff like Machine Learning, (despite tensorflow being dominant.).

it's just opengl support now... those driver problems at the start are long solved. 

 

tho double the vram in a higher speed is really nice on the long term

[trevb0t]

Forgive me, I've indulged a bit: (Full RGB build)

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	$194.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$64.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard	$99.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$175.98 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital - Black NVMe 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$117.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$49.49 @ Amazon
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card	$1098.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case	Cooler Master - MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case	$89.99 @ B&H
Power Supply	Corsair - HX Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2047.20
	Mail-in rebates	-$55.00
	Total	$1992.20
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-10 15:36 EDT-0400

• Ryzen 2700 is at a great price right now and when overclocked is pretty much neck and neck with the 2700X. This build is pieced together with OC in mind. Unless you're a HEAVY workload user, the 2700's 8c/16t count is plenty for rendering, modeling, etc.
• The CPU cooler and case are a very sexy RGB combo. You'd of course put the radiator in the top exhaust area. This case also includes the massive intakes for a crazy airflow.
• OC ready RGB MOBO
• 32GB 3000mhz DDR4 RGB
• 500GB M.2 NVMe, 3TB HDD (Fast ass SSD for file creation, plenty of worspace storage.)
• I think the pricing is absurd TBH, but I went with a 2080Ti. (Just because I could. A 2080 or VII is probably a better buy at current pricing, but you'd have TOP OF THE LINE.) EVGA Black is a great model too.
• I stole @LukeSavenije's PSU because... Great deal and a solid ass piece.

[CommanderCaddi]

if your looking for laptops. i recommend looking at some used workstation laptops, mostly from 2015-18

 

Dell Precision M6800

Core i7-4800MQ: Nvidia Quadro K3100m: x2 500GB SSHD

 

Lenovo ThinkPad P71-20HK0004GE

Intel Core i7-7820HQ NVIDIA Quadro P3000 16GB ram, 512GB SSD

 

Lenovo ThinkPad W540

i7-4800MQ:16 GB DDR3: Quadro K1100M: 500 GB SSD

 

 

you will be on your own tho.

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

CPU Cooler Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $64.89 @ OutletPC

allright, you're getting killed for this

 

4 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

I stole @LukeSavenije's PSU because... Great deal and a solid ass piece.

and my case...

[trevb0t]

8 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

allright, you're getting killed for this

 

and my case...

 I know the RGB isn't exactly a H100i Pro or a Dark Rock Pro 4... BUT I LOVE THE COMBO WITH THEIR RGB CASES. I'm a sucker. Plus it would OC a 2700 just fine. (Don't kill me!)

 

And yes. Your case, too. I forgot! (To be fair it's just on a really good sale, and a quality step above my usual suggestion of the MB511 with all the RGB sex appeal if not more... I would've gotten there either way  )

[LukeSavenije]

4 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

I know the RGB isn't exactly a H100i Pro or a Dark Rock Pro 4... BUT I LOVE THE COMBO WITH THEIR RGB CASES. I'm a sucker. Plus it would OC a 2700 just fine.

it'd perform like a 212 black...

 

4 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

(Don't kill me!)

 

4 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

the MB511 with all the RGB sex appeal if not more

don't mind it, that one is mesh

 

[Firewrath9]

1 hour ago, trevb0t said:

It's got significantly more VRAM than the 2080 for productivity.

What?

except in very specific tasks, VRAM doesn't affect productivity to a point.

 

[LukeSavenije]

17 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

What?

except in very specific tasks, VRAM doesn't affect productivity to a point.

except when it does

 

and then you'll notice hardcore

 

and hbm2 is faster anyways

[trevb0t]

20 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

What?

except in very specific tasks, VRAM doesn't affect productivity to a point.

I'm not saying it's THE selling point. I'm simply adding it to the points already made in favor of the VII...

Obviously not all workspace software will benefit. Some of it straight up doesn't need a GPU.

[Firewrath9]

2 hours ago, trevb0t said:

I'm not saying it's THE selling point. I'm simply adding it to the points already made in favor of the VII...

Obviously not all workspace software will benefit. Some of it straight up doesn't need a GPU.

Well what I said was that RTX Quadro 4000 (basically a 2070 w/ Quadro) or a 2080 will be more flexable, due to it being able to use CUDA and OpenGL, vs just OpenGL.

Not to mention that that the main selling point of lots of VRAM is mainly used for Deep/Machine Learning, which pretty much universally uses tensorflow, which is CUDA only.