cheap PSU

[Ritam]

will cheap PSU do any harm to our system? 

[TrigrH]

probably 

[LukeLinusFanFic]

Our *communism intensifies*

Yes, a bad PSU can do bad things from plain not working, frying up your system and even worse. Check out the PSU tier list and get something from there. 

[Screen]

It can cause issues. A system is only as good as its psu.
Cheap ones can short out other components and damage the whole build.
To go the cheap way would be to get the cheapest one from a reputable manufacture.
Like say Corsair VS450W is available for around 2K rs.

[Quadriplegic]

11 minutes ago, Screen said:

It can cause issues. A system is only as good as its psu.
Cheap ones can short out other components and damage the whole build.
To go the cheap way would be to get the cheapest one from a reputable manufacture.
Like say Corsair VS450W is available for around 2K rs.

No, going cheap way would be getting the most decent inexpensive PSU you can find. Corsair VS is not decent

[Oalei]

3 minutes ago, Quadriplegic said:

No, going cheap way would be getting the most decent inexpensive PSU you can find. Corsair VS is not decent

but its still OK. there is a literal cheap PSU that can fry your system and probably burn your house

[GoldenLag]

Just now, Oalei said:

but its still OK. there is a literal cheap PSU that can fry your system and probably burn your house

Its not really. It lacks protections.

 

Get a cx450/550 (2017) instead. Or a Pure Power 10/11 over 400 watts (DO NOT buy the sub 400 watt variants)

 

Or a cheap system power 9 over 400 watts

[Oalei]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

Its not really. It lacks protections.

 

Get a cx450/550 (2017) instead. Or a Pure Power 10/11 over 400 watts (DO NOT buy the sub 400 watt variants)

 

Or a cheap system power 9 over 400 watts

in my countyr there is a litreal PSU that can cause that and the price is negligable

[GoldenLag]

Just now, Oalei said:

in my countyr there is a litreal PSU that can cause that and the price is negligable

At its price you can get better PSUs, so why on earth would you say its fine.

 

The lower end PSU market there are a lot of landmines, and the VS series is one of those you should avoid. 

[Oalei]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

At its price you can get better PSUs, so why on earth would you say its fine.

 

The lower end PSU market there are a lot of landmines, and the VS series is one of those you should avoid. 

i would get VS grey no matter what here rather than those landmines. well the PSU price here is stupid so what can you do

[GoldenLag]

3 minutes ago, Oalei said:

i would get VS grey no matter what here rather than those landmines. well the PSU price here is stupid so what can you do

Well you can start with getting a good PSU. 

 

Not a VS PSU. Recommend. Something good instead of bad. Just because the VS *works doesnt mean its a PSU you should buy at its pricepoint.

 

I recommended a few other chouces that are good bets around the same pricepoint. Just because there are landmines around doesnt mean you should buy a handgranade

[Oalei]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Well you can start with getting a good PSU. 

 

Not a VS PSU. Recommend. Something good instead of bad. Just because the VS *works doesnt mean its a PSU you should buy at its pricepoint.

 

I recommended a few other chouces that are good bets around the same pricepoint. Just because there are landmines around doesnt mean you should buy a handgranade

yeah i got that but if its me vs landmines and there is VS of course i will take VS. there is PP10 400W atleast a price that i can buy and U9, here be quiet is pretty cheap and i love it. everything else on B tier (new tier list) is just more expensive than A+/A tier

[dogwitch]

their 3 lvl of psu. decent,great and last the pray to god ones.

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, Oalei said:

yeah i got that but if its me vs landmines and there is VS of course i will take VS. there is PP10 400W atleast a price that i can buy and U9, here be quiet is pretty cheap and i love it. everything else on B tier (new tier list) is just more expensive than A+/A tier

Thats why i recommended 2 PSUs that are universally priced low. 

 

No point in getting a VS PSU. And if you have to you are better off saving up and getting something else.

 

Getting a bad PSU like the VS can be the end of your system. And the PSU is about the last thing you swap in a system. 

[Oalei]

3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Thats why i recommended 2 PSUs that are universally priced low. 

 

No point in getting a VS PSU. And if you have to you are better off saving up and getting something else.

 

Getting a bad PSU like the VS can be the end of your system. And the PSU is about the last thing you swap in a system. 

well gosh darn it, can you help me clear somethings up?

[GoldenLag]

3 minutes ago, Oalei said:

well gosh darn it, can you help me clear somethings up?

Sure. Ill do so to the best of my ability. I am by no PSU expert though i have some overview on the subject

[Oalei]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

Sure. Ill do so to the best of my ability. I am by no PSU expert though i have some overview on the subject

nvm the person already gave up on the idea of VS which i the one who suggest that. but thanks anyway man

[Screen]

Why not a VS? Well, if there are better lower price alternatives then its good to go for them. And from my original comment it was just a suggestion, Likely something like VS450 from Corsair for the brand sake example.

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, Screen said:

Why not a VS? Well, if there are better lower price alternatives then its good to go for them. And from my original comment it was just a suggestion, Likely something like VS450 from Corsair for the brand sake example.

Ive explained why not. 

 

Sorry cant explain extra. Im going skiing for the time being

[duncannah]

An expensive bomb

[Screen]

3 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

Ive explained why not. 

 

Sorry cant explain extra. Im going skiing for the time being

There is no clear explanation about it nor documentation about why it Is bad for a regular system.

You haven't provided any explanation about the same either to explain any thing extra any where on this thread.
And then this thread from 2016 asking about the same: 
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/691161-what-exactly-makes-the-corsair-vs-series-that-bad/
Only logical explanation for this inference is from this reply there.

 

Any way. Get a good one, there are good cheap ones out there as well, Cheap does not always mean bad.

[LukeSavenije]

4 minutes ago, Screen said:

There is no clear explanation about it nor documentation about why it Is bad for a regular system.

false, it's well known that group regulated units can get out of the atx specs with modern hardware. that's why most units these days are regulated with dc-dc

[Ankerson]

5 hours ago, Ritam said:

will cheap PSU do any harm to our system? 

 

They can.

 

Goes from just the PSU giving out to frying your PC to burning down your house or anything in-between.

 

You get what you PAY FOR.

 

The PSU is the most important part of the PC, everything plugs into the PSU.

[GoldenLag]

6 minutes ago, Screen said:

Any way. Get a good one, there are good cheap ones out there as well, Cheap does not always mean bad.

kinda why a recommended a couple of actual good Cheap PSUs earlier in the thread

4 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

Get a cx450/550 (2017) instead. Or a Pure Power 10/11 over 400 watts (DO NOT buy the sub 400 watt variants)

 

Or a cheap system power 9 over 400 watts

7 minutes ago, Screen said:

There is no clear explanation about it nor documentation about why it Is bad for a regular system.

You haven't provided any explanation about the same either to explain any thing extra any where on this thread.
And then this thread from 2016 asking about the same: 
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/691161-what-exactly-makes-the-corsair-vs-series-that-bad/
Only logical explanation for this inference is from this reply there.

there are clear reasons why we do not recommend the VS series of PSUs.

like @LukeSavenije mentioned about group regulated units. then we stop recommending PSUs when they lack protections or if the protections are oversensetive or not sensetive enough. that being one of the reasons why the Focus like from Seasonic stopped being recommended for most systems. 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

kinda why a recommended a couple of actual good Cheap PSUs earlier in the thread

there are clear reasons why we do not recommend the VS series of PSUs.

like @LukeSavenije mentioned about group regulated units. then we stop recommending PSUs when they lack protections or if the protections are oversensetive or not sensetive enough. that being one of the reasons why the Focus like from Seasonic stopped being recommended for most systems. 

 

Yet VS does have all of the proper protections. 

 

And people recommend the CX-M which is also double forward.  (CX non-M is not, it's resonant). 

 

But the CX-M does have DC to DC for the 3.3V and 5V while the VS does not, which addresses a completely different set of potential issues. 

 

But nobody ever wants to spell these points out when told not to buy something.  They just regurgitate what was read from a tier list. 

 

People that can't explain "the why" shouldn't make recommendations and claim that a particular PSU will kill your parts.