Ryzen 2700x with Asus B350 plus

[pathikritpd]

I already have asus B350 plus board, i was thinking of pairing it with ryzen 2700x what are your opinions about that, can the b350 chipset handle it

[LukeSavenije]

the chipset has nothing to do with it

 

but i recommend against it, the vrms are going to have a way too hard time handeling that chip, a upgrade would be a great idea

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3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

the chipset has nothing to do with it

 

but i recommend against it, the vrms are going to have a way too hard time handeling that chip, a upgrade would be a great idea

the VRM's should handle it okay at stock, it's 4 Phases and has a decent heat sink atleast, but no overclocking for sure.

@pathikritpd

Make sure to update the BIOS using your current CPU, before upgrading to the 2700X, if you never did then it will not support it.

[pathikritpd]

Okay, thanks

[LukeSavenije]

6 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

the VRM's should handle it okay at stock, it's 4 Phases and has a decent heat sink atleast, but no overclocking for sure.

aaaaaaaaaand that's bullshit

 

low end primes are known to have actually pretty shitty vrm's, so i strongly recommend against it

[Bravo1cc]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

aaaaaaaaaand that's bullshit

 

low end primes are known to have actually pretty shitty vrm's, so i strongly recommend against it

"Harsh but fair" name the game?

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Bravo1cc said:

"Harsh but fair" name the game?

i would rather call it honest. there's a reason i made the mobo tier list and set most of the prime boards in the lowest tier

 

but asus can change my mind on b550 and x570

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Just now, LukeSavenije said:

aaaaaaaaaand that's bullshit

 

low end primes are known to have actually pretty shitty vrm's, so i strongly recommend against it

It's an "okay" VRM but i really doubt it will have trouble running at stock, especially with such a decent Heatsink on it..

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, _Syn_ said:

It's an "okay" VRM but i really doubt it will have trouble running at stock, especially with such a decent Heatsink on it..

if it had a good heatsink

and a weak 4+2 still isn't a good idea imo

 

@GoldenLag

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Just now, LukeSavenije said:

if it had a good heatsink 

that IS a good heatsink, what are you on about?
 

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

and a weak 4+2 still isn't a good idea imo

It uses a 4C09B high side and 4C06B low side, and those are pretty decent mosfets, with 4 phases it will handle 140W power consumption just fine, which is about what 100-130A?

[Bravo1cc]

9 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

i would rather call it honest. there's a reason i made the mobo tier list and set most of the prime boards in the lowest tier

 

but asus can change my mind on b550 and x570

Oh i don't disagree fella, i cant over state how important to me a good Mobo is.

[LukeSavenije]

3 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

that IS a good heatsink, what are you on about?

it literally exposes the phases...

 

3 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

It uses a 4C09B high side and 4C06B low side, and those are pretty decent mosfets, with 4 phases it will handle 140W power consumption just fine, which is about what 100-130A?

did i say it can't handle it? no

 

did i say i wouldn't risk it? yes

 

it's the op's choice, but i disagree that it's a good board for a 2700x

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3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

it literally exposes the phases... 

are you talking about the chokes?

 

3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

did i say it can't handle it? no

 

did i say i wouldn't risk it? yes

 

it's the op's choice, but i disagree that it's a good board for a 2700x

You literally did say that it can't handle it

 

33 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

the vrms are going to have a way too hard time handeling that chip,

 

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, _Syn_ said:

are you talking about the chokes?

i am

 

1 minute ago, _Syn_ said:

You literally did say that it can't handle it

i wanted to say with it that it barely (if it even could) handle it and i recommend against it. my point hasn't changed

[Tristerin]

My 2 cents:

 

That board was introduced for 95w TDP processors

 

2700x is 105w

 

It will handle it, but its asking for potential trouble.

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10 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

i am

the chokes do not need any kind of cooling, and many high end boards never touch the chokes and even if they do it's not necessary, it's literally just a big coil inside that's all and it won't benefit much from a heatsink.
 

10 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

i wanted to say with it that it barely (if it even could) handle it and i recommend against it. my point hasn't changed

It will do okay at stock, i never said great or anything like that, if it didn't have a heatsink then i would strongly recommend against it, but your opinion is your opinion it's up to him to decide and he can research it more.

 

B350-Strix uses the same VRM's btw (yes 4 phases), it has a bigger heatsink but just to give you some perspective on things

 

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

It will do okay at stock, i never said great or anything like that, if it didn't have a heatsink then i would strongly recommend against it, but your opinion is your opinion it's up to him to decide and he can research it more.

okay then... i just got something back from @GoldenLag

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I have that mobo luke

Its shite. Cant even handle a 4 core overclock

Ye. Ive got mine running 3,9ghz

Its not 100% stable

VRM throttles after a while

Then dies

This Asus mobo has a good BIOS

Nothing else tbh

literally quoted

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

okay then... i just got something back from @GoldenLag

Quote

I have that mobo luke

Its shite. Cant even handle a 4 core overclock

Ye. Ive got mine running 3,9ghz

Its not 100% stable

VRM throttles after a while

Then dies

This Asus mobo has a good BIOS

Nothing else tbh

literally quoted

Can confirm. Its purely VRM throttling. 

 

It dies very fast under powerbug programs. And slightly slower under benchmarks. Its stable in games. 

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8 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

I have that mobo luke

Its shite. Cant even handle a 4 core overclock

Ye. Ive got mine running 3,9ghz

Its not 100% stable

VRM throttles after a while

Then dies

This Asus mobo has a good BIOS

Nothing else tbh

Well okay if it's tested then i'm wrong, that so strange considering the decent VRM's, it's one of the best in the cheap B350 motherboards

@pathikritpd

Don't get the 2700X

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, _Syn_ said:

it's one of the best in the B350 motherboards

A lot of B350 board were pretty bad. 

 

I mean you can probBly run the 2700x on it, stock, and only stock. But dont be surprised if it powerthrottles. Also i think B350 board do not have XFR2 and only XFR. Meaning it wont go to the 4,25ghz boost. 

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, _Syn_ said:

Well okay if it's tested then i'm wrong, that so strange considering the decent VRM's, it's one of the best in the B350 motherboards

@pathikritpd

Don't get the 2700X

it's mainly because b350 (and x370 too) were rushed. board manufacturers had little time to make their boards. that's why a lot of the 300 series boards came out worse than the 400 series

 

I'm personally not a big fan of prime, because asus cheaps out on a lot of things. with the 2700x i recommend at least a high end b450 (tomahawk, pro carbon, aorus elite) or a good x470 (taichi, pro carbon, fatal1ty)

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1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

I mean you can probBly run the 2700x on it, stock, and only stock. But dont be surprised if it powerthrottles. Also i think B350 board do not have XFR2 and only XFR. Meaning it wont go to the 4,25ghz boost. 

I did specifically say no overclocking and at stock which should do okay at, and it's a good thing that it doesn't boost higher, in the end i think he just wants some kind of upgrade, not to break records

if there's any chances of power throttling at stock then i do recommend against it

 

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

it's mainly because b350 (and x370 too) were rushed. board manufacturers had little time to make their boards. that's why a lot of the 300 series boards came out worse than the 400 series

 

I'm personally not a big fan of prime, because asus cheaps out on a lot of things. with the 2700x i recommend at least a high end b450 (tomahawk, pro carbon, aorus elite) or a good x470 (taichi, pro carbon, fatal1ty)

 

Oh trust me i'm not a fan of prime either, they really went down in quality in recent years and i'm talking about Intel too

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

Oh trust me i'm not a fan of prime either, they really went down in quality in recent years and i'm talking about Intel too

they did, only the prime-a is somewhat good these days. i hope it's better on the 500 series, but I'm somewhat afraid it won't. 

 

if you have any comment about my motherboard tier list, notify me. you seem to do your research too

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Just now, LukeSavenije said:

they did, only the prime-a is somewhat good these days. i hope it's better on the 500 series, but I'm somewhat afraid it won't. 

 

if you have any comment about my motherboard tier list, notify me. you seem to do your research too

I do have the Prime-A for Z370 and it's not impressive at all considering the other boards in that price point, I just blindly trusted Asus because of their past quality..

Oh i just saw that you have lots of lists, I will definitely check it out  

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, _Syn_ said:

I do have the Prime-A for Z370 and it's not impressive at all considering the other boards in that price point, I just blindly trusted Asus because of their past quality..

Oh i just saw that you have lots of lists, I will definitely check it out  

yeah... i have a pro carbon on that platform

 

it's a solid board, but these days gigabyte made it hard to choose with their z390's

 

they were fun projects somewhere