So my pc is acting up once again

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1 minute ago, Eastman51 said:

Hmmmmm, it said the same thing when I had AI Suite do this to me.... 

 

Have you tried a BIOS upgrade and/or downgrade/reflash yet?

like 10 times

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Just now, TheThymo said:

like 10 times

damn.... 
I'm out of ideas at this point.

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Just now, thinwalrus said:

Did the pc go to sleep? Or is it just the monitor? Next time you face this, try re-plugging the display power cord if it has no "hard" switch on it. Display port is a real piece of shit sometimes.

pc is set to never go to sleep, idk, will do.

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this far, thank you all @Eastman51 @thinwalrus @_Syn_

 

I'll see what happens in the future, and will make sure to tag you if I happen to find anything that helped.

 

Time for a movie

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@Eastman51 @thinwalrus @_Syn_

 

So guys, some new developments and thoughts later.

Yesterday I was watching something on youtube when the crash occured, I only had chrome and dashlane opened, so no load at all.

Ram probably at 30%, Cpu 5-10% gpu 5-10%.

My screen went black, and the keyboard also, but the lights in my system were still on, and those of my mouse also.

 

My thoughts: something shorted in the cable's somewhere (I have with the psu experimenting changed cables (so ones I'm using now are different from the ones I was using before)). Why: The problem started occuring when I build the psu back into the case.

 

Or: something shorted on the motherboard (maybe broken mobo?)

 

But I'm quite sure it has nothing to do with the Cpu or Ram as I think that would crash a bsod and not a loss of display, Am I right?

 

I hope to hear your thoughts on this.

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@TheThymo You said that the PC was working fine when the PSU was out of the case right? Maybe its a grounding issue with the PSU, you did say the one you sent back to RMA was found to have no issues....

 

It could be the board, but if putting PSU on the table fixes it, I'm not so sure.

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2 hours ago, Eastman51 said:

@TheThymo You said that the PC was working fine when the PSU was out of the case right? Maybe its a grounding issue with the PSU, you did say the one you sent back to RMA was found to have no issues....

 

It could be the board, but if putting PSU on the table fixes it, I'm not so sure.

I'm not sure if it has to do with this, it would seem very unlogical

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nice update, @Eastman51 @thinwalrus @_Syn_

 

today my pc crashed twice, one crash 30 min after the other. I was playing forza horizon 4 at both times, and I think it happened after my pc went through "heavy" rendering. I never had it crash before while gaming, and the weird thing is, in event viewer there is only a Critical Kernel-Power 41 (63) error for each crash, no other errors or anything.

When the crash happened my pc just restarted, went to the windows login screen and done...

 

IDK anymore pls help

 

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1 hour ago, TheThymo said:

nice update, @Eastman51 @thinwalrus @_Syn_

 

today my pc crashed twice, one crash 30 min after the other. I was playing forza horizon 4 at both times, and I think it happened after my pc went through "heavy" rendering. I never had it crash before while gaming, and the weird thing is, in event viewer there is only a Critical Kernel-Power 41 (63) error for each crash, no other errors or anything.

When the crash happened my pc just restarted, went to the windows login screen and done...

 

IDK anymore pls help

 

Sounds to me like a weird motherboard or PSU issue, but again there's nothing i can really help you with, you need to switch hardware to pinpoint the problem or send the PC to a shop / technician.

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I was thinking the same, just a few months till zen 2.

 

If i would now switch out hardware, what would you suggest? motherboard?

 

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@Eastman51 @thinwalrus @_Syn_

 

sorry that i keep tagging

 

but i have made a new discovery. today i had like 5 crashes, 2 black screens things and 3 restarts. after one black screen crash i flipped the on/off switch of my power brick, (not the psu but the one to 6 plugs) to off and after 5 seconds or something back on and my pc immediatly started up again, i did not need to press the power button... What would cause this?

 

also I've been getting quite a few crashes while gaming (BFV) where event viewer just shows "event 41 kernel power", could this indicate anything?

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32 minutes ago, TheThymo said:

back on and my pc immediatly started up again, i did not need to press the power button... What would cause this?

Most BIOS sport a feature where they will automatically boot up after power is restored (if power is lost). Since you didn't flip the PSU switch, I'm assuming that your board would have triggered this feature. This feature can be disabled.

On 3/29/2019 at 12:32 PM, TheThymo said:

just a few months till zen 2.

 

If i would now switch out hardware, what would you suggest? motherboard?

It's probably your board, since you did RMA PSU already. Still hard to say since your PC worked fine (iirc) when the PSU was not mounted inside the case.

If you were to upgrade board now (assuming you can't RMA the board), I'd just go balls to the walls (high end X470) so you have something really good for when you CPU swap later on, say in Ryzen gen 4 or 5.

 

But, Zen 2 isn't too far away....
You could wait till they come out and grab a shiny new high end board (X570, assuming AMD sticks with their current naming scheme), which would also give you a good platform for a CPU upgrade later on.

 

Since you have an R5 2600 (quite a good chip), I wouldn't swap this out yet (assuming this isn't the issue, which I doubt it is); upgrading to a 2600x or 2700x isn't worth it over what you have right now. The earliest I'd upgrade CPU is when Zen 2 launches, but personally I'd just get a really good overclocking board, a high end cooler, and see how far you can go; leave it there till its not good enough and then get a new CPU.

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9 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

Most BIOS sport a feature where they will automatically boot up after power is restored (if power is lost). Since you didn't flip the PSU switch, I'm assuming that your board would have triggered this feature. This feature can be disabled.

It's probably your board, since you did RMA PSU already. Still hard to say since your PC worked fine (iirc) when the PSU was not mounted inside the case.

If you were to upgrade board now (assuming you can't RMA the board), I'd just go balls to the walls (high end X470) so you have something really good for when you CPU swap later on, say in Ryzen gen 4 or 5.

 

But, Zen 2 isn't too far away....
You could wait till they come out and grab a shiny new high end board (X570, assuming AMD sticks with their current naming scheme), which would also give you a good platform for a CPU upgrade later on.

 

Since you have an R5 2600 (quite a good chip), I wouldn't swap this out yet (assuming this isn't the issue, which I doubt it is); upgrading to a 2600x or 2700x isn't worth it over what you have right now. The earliest I'd upgrade CPU is when Zen 2 launches, but personally I'd just get a really good overclocking board, a high end cooler, and see how far you can go; leave it there till its not good enough and then get a new CPU.

As long as there is no real certain answer i wont fiddle too much. I want to get "x570" and something like a "r7 3700" in june/july (if they release then). Probably getting a gigabyte mobo, to sync all dem rgbs

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Just now, TheThymo said:

I want to get "x570" and something like a "r7 3700" in june/july (if they release then).

That'd be cool.

1 minute ago, TheThymo said:

Probably getting a gigabyte mobo, to sync all dem rgbs

Ryzen Gigabyte boards have a record for being trash, btw.

I'd recommend ASrock or Asus. MSI if you absolutely don't want either of those.

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Just now, Eastman51 said:

That'd be cool.

Ryzen Gigabyte boards have a record for being trash, btw.

I'd recommend ASrock or Asus. MSI if you absolutely don't want either of those.

I have been seeing quite a lot of recommendations for gigabyte mobos lately, but im sure that for no to barely any ocing it is necessary to go expensive. Also I now work at a pcparts retailer, so for me it is quite easy to return and stuff. Btw my current mobo was bought somewhere else

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Just now, TheThymo said:

I have been seeing quite a lot of recommendations for gigabyte mobos lately, but im sure that for no to barely any ocing it is necessary to go expensive. Also I now work at a pcparts retailer, so for me it is quite easy to return and stuff. Btw my current mobo was bought somewhere else

Gigabyte is ok on Intel side, not 100% sure if they fixed their problems from Zen 1, so idk for sure. 

If you're only going to OC a little bit, you won't need a $200+ board. If you aren't going to OC at all, all you need is a good chipset and to make sure the VRMs have some kind of heatsink (if you're gaming).

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Just now, Eastman51 said:

Gigabyte is ok on Intel side, not 100% sure if they fixed their problems from Zen 1, so idk for sure. 

If you're only going to OC a little bit, you won't need a $200+ board. If you aren't going to OC at all, all you need is a good chipset and to make sure the VRMs have some kind of heatsink (if you're gaming).

And it NEEDS to look good enough